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Hyperviolence

Concussion lawsuit

League of Denial

Jingoism

Pinktober

Arbitrary displinary Policy

Domestic Violence

Combined, enough to warrant getting off the nfl bandwagon

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Don't we mean society has a domestic violence problem that needs to be addressed?

 

That's the thing.  We can wring our hands over this incident, and rightfully so.  But Ray Rice is merely the current poster child of something that goes far beyond him.

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Sure, but a nice start would be the multi-millionaire athletes getting hammered over it.  The NFL can't control the shitty legal system but they can impose heavy penalties, try to change the culture of their players and use them to influence their audience.

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Yeah, the NFL could do a lot of things.  So could other billion-dollar corporations.  So could actors and singers and directors and writers, all of whom have strong fanbases. But they don't, because it impacts their product/public image and ultimately their bottom line.  Or if they do say something, a chunk of society tells to stop preaching to them and STFU.

 

The NFL is a hypocritical entity.  But so are we as fans.

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That chart is, just wow. Wrestling gets deserved slack for all the deaths, but at least you've not got people getting arrested for pimping or getting charged with domestic assault every other week. Fucking hell. Emma shoplifted an ipad cover (likely unintentionally) and even got fired for a few hours after it.

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...not sure "fired for a few hours" was your best example.

Also, if you don't think there's every bit as sordid a history of bad behavior from wrestlers, you very simply haven't been paying attention.

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Oh, I'm not saying wrestling isn't extremely sleazy; it is. But it's hard to image a WWE star knocking his girlfriend in an elevator, in an incident that gets attention from the press and authorities, and them basically not doing a thing about it until the video comes out a few months later. 

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Oh, I'm not saying wrestling isn't extremely sleazy; it is. But it's hard to image a WWE star knocking his girlfriend in an elevator, in an incident that gets attention from the press and authorities, and them basically not doing a thing about it until the video comes out a few months later. 

Today? No. In the past, if the guy drew money they didn't give a shit. See Jimmy Snuka, or dozens of other I don't know about.

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"2000s' NFL is kind of a dumpster fire of criminal activity."

"Oh yeah? Compare it to the entire history of anything else!"

To be honest, I'm not sure if the league is worse off the field now, or we are just hearing about it more.  Not that that is an excuse at all mind you. . . 

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Part of the reason we don't know as much about wrestlers' incidents is that the media doesn't give two shits about wrestling compared to pro football. There wasn't video, but I never heard a peep about Austin and Debra in non-wrestling media.

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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11498717/roger-goodell-says-job-not-line-due-ray-rice-case

 

Goodell says his job is not on the line, which I would think would indicate the opposite. If he was secure, was comment on it at all. . .  .

 

Also Goodell stating he's job is secure makes him look better if he (is forced to) step down as commish. "Oh, he did the right thing by stepping down on his own"

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Ain't shit going to happen to Goodell.

The only way he gets in real danger,  rather than just a bad PR scandal, is if sponsors start being vocal. Not that anyone will walk any from the shield, but all  takes is NOW, or other groups actually having effective boycotts. Probably a 5-10 percent chance of that at best. . . 

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Robert Kraft and Jerry Jones are already on record defeding Goodell.  As long as he finds new ways to make them richer, the owners have no need to fire him.

Kraft wants to pick up Rice next year for the Pats so Bill Simmons can write a long column about how the guy deserves a second chance and compares him to Vick while touting how great the Patriots will be now that they have a stud RB.

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