Petey Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 As for the rating, I know that I haven't watched Raw since Monday Night Football has come back. I wonder how many others have switched to MNF. I'll be back for the Rumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Rating was a 2.7. It's a shame Bryan hasn't taken off as a top guy but, similar to Punk, someone being over huge with the hardcore base doesn't guarantee they'll appeal to a casual audience. It also isn't an overnight thing. Hell, even the biggest star they ever had took a year to get over as a top guy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Rating was a 2.7. It's a shame Bryan hasn't taken off as a top guy but, similar to Punk, someone being over huge with the hardcore base doesn't guarantee they'll appeal to a casual audience. The mythical "casual audience" is watching football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Hero Morganti Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Rating was a 2.7. It's a shame Bryan hasn't taken off as a top guy but, similar to Punk, someone being over huge with the hardcore base doesn't guarantee they'll appeal to a casual audience. It also isn't an overnight thing. Hell, even the biggest star they ever had took a year to get over as a top guy. And didn't really become a "ratings" draw until what, a bit after that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgergabe Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 As for the rating, I know that I haven't watched Raw since Monday Night Football has come back. I wonder how many others have switched to MNF. I'll be back for the Rumble. A lot of people. Ratings are always down during football season, they really go down at the beginning of October, last year the October 2 show got a 2.5 rating! The 2011 got a 2.9 but that was the show with the big vote of no confidence angle. A 2.7 rating should be expected at this time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Rating was a 2.7. It's a shame Bryan hasn't taken off as a top guy but, similar to Punk, someone being over huge with the hardcore base doesn't guarantee they'll appeal to a casual audience. It also isn't an overnight thing. Hell, even the biggest star they ever had took a year to get over as a top guy. And didn't really become a "ratings" draw until what, a bit after that? Pretty much. To the best of my knowledge, there's only been a few actual main event "draws" in the past decade. Batista, Cena, Edge, and Eddie. Beyond that, I seem to recall Mark Henry popping a rating when he was champ on Smackdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I'm more interested in the NOC/Battleground buys and house show gates since Cena's been hurt than Raw ratings. I'd expect Battleground to be subpar because the card looked like crap and I'd imagine very few people expected it to be a decisive show, but I'll be interested to see how they compare to recent years. HIAC would've been a great indicator as well until Cena was announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelemania Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 WWE could really use Batista back right now. Brock Lesnar too. Hell, Mark Henry would help but I'm not sure what shape he's in physically. I can't remember if he's hurt or what. They just need more guys that are perceived as credible threats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Can't say about Cena, but Edge, Batista and Mark Henry were delivering great ratings early on in their title runs. Personally, I think Bryan is incredibly talented and has a lot of personality, but does he have real tangible star quality? I'm not neccessarily talking about being good-looking, although him looking like a lumberjack turned hobo probably doesn't help, but just something that's going to get someone who's flipping through channels stop just to see what the guy is going to do next? The thing you're never supposed to say is, "Well, maybe Vince is right to think a guy who wouldn't stand out in a crowd/looks like a regular dude in the grocery store isn't main event material." But considering how a lot of indie guys have flopped in the top roles, he may indeed be on to something. Physical charisma is a very real thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 And of course we ignore all those people that pay real money for tickets who love him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 And of course we ignore all those people that pay real money for tickets who love him. Is there any proof he's increasing house show ticket sales? Not being a smart ass, I genuinely don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Z Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I am someone that would seriously contemplate not watching if guys like Bryan and Punk were not at the top of the card. The last few months have renewed my interest for a good while, assuming that Bryan remains at the top of the card and Punk eventually gets his rematch and win over Brock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Is there any proof he's increasing house show ticket sales? Not being a smart ass, I genuinely don't know. You did not see the entire arena cheering him at the end of Raw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 No one's ever said Punk and Bryan don't appeal to a certain subset of fans. Problem is, they don't appeal to anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 You mean the entire arena who purchased tickets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 The vast majority of whom would have bought tickets even if Bryan weren't on the show. Raw crowd reaction can't really be used as a barometer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Yeah and they usually sit on their fucking hands and the matches suck.I mean I'm sorry you guys miss the charismaless meat heads who couldn't work. But you should just deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Hey, I'm a Bryan fan. But I would like to see whether he's had a tangible impact on business either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgergabe Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Man Victator really hates meatheads, what have they ever done to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Lord Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I think if the suits figured Eva Marie would go out there and pull a Jackie Gayda, they were sadly mistaken. From what I watched of the match she didn't do too bad. Granted she stuck to the basics (which is all I'm guessing she knows). But she didn't kill anyone with a headlock takedown or anything so that's a plus. Jo Jo didn't even get into the match. Why even have it as a six woman match anyway. Is she even going to be a wrestler for them? AJ is small, but Jo Jo's size in comparison makes AJ look like a bah gawd hoss in comparison. As for the rating, simple explanation is they dicked Bryan around for too long. He should have kept the belt at Summerslam and kept thwarting all of Triple H and Stephanie's plans. Honestly I'd put blame on Bryan having to feud with Orton rather than Bryan being a flop. Wrestling wise they have great matches together. But storywise, there's nothing that makes me want to see these two keep fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I like that the idea of blaming HHH or more realistically Stephanie has not been suggested. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie20x6 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Until WWE has to go back to running RAW's in 3,000-seat stadiums, I think they'll be okay. Television ratings don't matter. It's live television and some network is always going to want that on their dial. Spike is probably salivating at the thought of being able to have RAW back again to prop up their UFC rip-off. Plus, even if they can't find a network they can always start their ow... Ooooh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgergabe Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Vince needs to blame Monday Night Football and MLB playoffs. That is the reason why ratings are always down in October. Even Family Guy reruns are down by 300K because of MNF and MLB playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bink_winkleman Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 It's really hilarious that MNF doesn't get all of the blame. It's literally the only reason for the ratings drop. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgergabe Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 It's really hilarious that MNF doesn't get all of the blame. It's literally the only reason for the ratings drop. Yes that and the MLB playoffs. Ratings will always go down to low levels in October no matter who is on. Even Rock in 2011 couldn't bring them above 3.0 in October. Think of how many people on this board don't watch Raw to watch Monday Night Football or the Playoffs and multiply that by thousands and you have your reason. For example I didn't watch Raw in order to watch the Dodger game. I wonder why people use this time to say that the booking sucks, or so and so isn't a draw. I guess because otherwise discussion would be pretty boring. "Why are ratings down? Because of Monday Night Football and the MLB playoffs" isn't a very stimulating discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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