Random TV Thoughts

[EVA]

I sense this is going to get swept away in the Duck stuff, but...

NBC has announced that the terrific HANNIBAL will be returning on Friday, February 28th. Of course, the immediate reaction is "FUCK! DEATH SLOT!" But then, almost every timeslot that isn't immediately adjacent to THE VOICE on NBC is a death slot these days, and at least being on Friday night gets it away from the stiff competition it would get on Thursdays. And NBC actually has a stable, quasi-successful show to pair it with on Fridays in GRIMM.

So, yay?

[Reed]

Eh. Friday is...better. I think NBC might be content to have a critically-acclaimed-show-that-does-crap ratings for the prestige if nothing else. And if it really is cheaper to film because of overseas funding, all the better.

[Elsalvajeloco]

What happened to being a good publicist? This is stuff that would get you hidden away from all forms of media. I am not really mad that he said it because it is really how a lot of older white people in South still feel about race relations. You can also include homosexuality lower on the totem pole because it's a more recent issue to them. That's probably why he was more open on that subject than race. If he would have went full blown racist instead just showing his ignorance on the matter, then he would have got sacked really fast.

 

Like Sorrow said, it's just a show that will get old and fade away. So who gives a fuck?

 

However, you are dunzo once the NAACP (even though they haven't been as powerful recently under Ben Jealous and now after him)  and/or GLAAD get their hooks into you.

[Ace]

The family are multimillionaires, so I'm not feeling that sympathetic for 'em.

[Reed]

 

At any rate, I fail to see how ignorance will be successfully combated by silence.

 

 

Because it's gotten beyond the initial comments and this ignorant hillbilly is now getting glorified as a first amendment hero?

 

Many anti-Gay advocates push the idea on people that GLAAD are some sort of Orwellian organization who, rather than just wanting tolerance, want to force their views on everything and control what you think. 

 

And anytime GLAAD rush out to wreck the life of the latest B celebrity who said something idiotic, I think they add feud to that fire. Like someone said, they were probably on A&E's case within nanoseconds. It's very reactionary and almost merciless. 

 

I think stuff like that makes it worse for gay people. In the long run, I don't think anyone is going to be damaged because the old guy from Duck Dynasty said he thought homosexuality was a sin.  Most wouldn't have even heard about it. But now it's this huge thing and the guy can play the victim card.

[Johnny Sorrow]

I'm like, don't be "outraged" by this d list celebrity. Just make fun of him knowing that in two years Wal Mart stockroom managers are gonna have to deal with how to get rid of Dusty pallets of Duck Dynasty chia pets.

[Victator]

 this ignorant hillbilly is now getting glorified as a first amendment hero?

 

By other ignorant hillbillies and bigots.

[Reed]

 

 this ignorant hillbilly is now getting glorified as a first amendment hero?

 

By other ignorant hillbillies and bigots.

 

 

Elijah Burke was on twitter complaining about the guy being removed from the show for what Burke saw as simply giving a personal opinion.

 

He doesn't exactly fit the "white trailer-trash hillbilly" category, does he?

[Elsalvajeloco]

 

 

At any rate, I fail to see how ignorance will be successfully combated by silence.

 

 

Because it's gotten beyond the initial comments and this ignorant hillbilly is now getting glorified as a first amendment hero?

 

Many anti-Gay advocates push the idea on people that GLAAD are some sort of Orwellian organization who, rather than just wanting tolerance, want to force their views on everything and control what you think. 

 

And anytime GLAAD rush out to wreck the life of the latest B celebrity who said something idiotic, I think they add feud to that fire. Like someone said, they were probably on A&E's case within nanoseconds. It's very reactionary and almost merciless. 

 

I think stuff like that makes it worse for gay people. In the long run, I don't think anyone is going to be damaged because the old guy from Duck Dynasty said he thought homosexuality was a sin.  Most wouldn't have even heard about it. But now it's this huge thing and the guy can play the victim card.

 

 

 

Part of that is the forum being used. I really have no problem with them attacking DD guy because said show is not about sexual preference or anything of that nature, but I am not exactly thrilled by it either since he isn't profiting from hate speech. The magazine printing his simpleminded answers is making money. If there were crazy DD fans actually believing this guy was their prophet, then they were goners anyway. The same would apply for people who now will watch the show because of this.

 

Now with someone like Tracy Morgan, I thought they were completely out-of-line with that. His job is to be a comedian and purpose of his job is to make people laugh. The means to get people laughing should be under his control as the creator of that content along with any writers he may have. It isn't so much free speech as it is fulfilling his obligations to his employers. You can fuck with "free speech" all you want to, but comedy is comedy. Being offensive is half the job almost. His material about his hypothetical gay son is none of your fucking business whether you're a casual observer on the internet or a patron of any clubs he is performing at.

[EVA]

Not surprised that the Black Pope would come out against homosexuality.

[Reed]

With GLAAD, my view tends to be "Well, don't you have better things to do than launch massive PR campaigns against comedians and redneck reality stars over one thing they said?"

 

There are numerous states in America where someone can still get fired for being gay. I know it's not as glamorous, but shouldn't stuff like that be the priority? Tracy Morgan and Phil from Duck Dynasty are not to blame for that. Nor is ruining their careers going to solve that.

 

All that money and resources and you're using it to shut up B list celebrities who no one listens to anyway.

[Johnny Sorrow]

Going after comedians for material is fucked up. Going after D List celebrities is just a waste of time. Again, the guy's shit about how Jim Crow was just dandy is far more offensive than his thoughts on how vaginas are better than anuses. And even so, IT'S ALL BULLSHIT. "HEY AMERICA, HERE'S YOUR BULLSHIT TO FIGHT ABOUT WHILE YOU ALL GET FUCKED SILENTLY. ENJOY YOUR FIREWORKS."

[Elsalvajeloco]

Again, with his Jim Crow thoughts (if you want to call them that), I think that was just him being COMPLETELY oblivious. There was NO WAY in hell that a black person, even with a white person in their same income bracket, was going to discuss problems with with a white person. My aunt worked in the fields with white people in the mid-to-late 60s before heading to Chicago, and she sure as hell wasn't confiding in white people. That was an unstated no-no. Now if he would have said straight up that they need to bring it back (which he straddled the line on kinda), then he would got the double axe handle smash from A&E (along with his family) and the argument is moot on his intent.

[Reed]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjgObuY_EOk

 

Trailer for Josh Holloway's new show on CBS.

 

On one hand, I kind of admire how totally ridiculous it is. On the other...it's just totally ridiculous.

 

Like, if you're worried about the safety of the guy with the chip in his head who can control electricity, why not insert the chip into the toughest, most deadliest agent you can find?

 

Out of every bodyguard you could find for this guy, why would you assign a girl who looks about 120 pounds at most and, going by the trailer, gets taken hostage frighteningly easily and needs him to rescue her?

[Elsalvajeloco]

If you have to carry your bodyguard after he or she has been shot, then it should be implied that they quit already.

[Reed]

Also, if you have this chip that will turn anyone into one of the most dangerous weapons the world has ever seen, why would you have inserted into someone you OPENLY ADMIT is reckless, unpredictable and untrustworthy?

[Victator]

 

 

 this ignorant hillbilly is now getting glorified as a first amendment hero?

 

By other ignorant hillbillies and bigots.

 

 

Elijah Burke was on twitter complaining about the guy being removed from the show for what Burke saw as simply giving a personal opinion.

 

He doesn't exactly fit the "white trailer-trash hillbilly" category, does he?

 

Fits the bigot category.

[tigertooth]

 

 

At any rate, I fail to see how ignorance will be successfully combated by silence.

 

 

Because it's gotten beyond the initial comments and this ignorant hillbilly is now getting glorified as a first amendment hero?

 

Many anti-Gay advocates push the idea on people that GLAAD are some sort of Orwellian organization who, rather than just wanting tolerance, want to force their views on everything and control what you think. 

 

And anytime GLAAD rush out to wreck the life of the latest B celebrity who said something idiotic, I think they add feud to that fire. Like someone said, they were probably on A&E's case within nanoseconds. It's very reactionary and almost merciless. 

 

I think stuff like that makes it worse for gay people. In the long run, I don't think anyone is going to be damaged because the old guy from Duck Dynasty said he thought homosexuality was a sin.  Most wouldn't have even heard about it. But now it's this huge thing and the guy can play the victim card.

 

 

Just a quick reminder that GLAAD simply put out a press release and made a phone inquiry.  You refer to that as 'launching a massive PR campaign' and 'rushing out to wreck his life' and 'very reactionary and almost merciless'.  I think you may be overstating what GLAAD did.

 

As far as DD guy playing the victim card, I think that's a conversation worth having.  In the long run I think the "how dare you be intolerant of my ignorance?" defense will be (more) widely seen as risible.  I believe that's a good thing.

[Reed]

I think it's interesting because his opinions derive mostly from his religious beliefs. And then you get into the issue of "Well, if you have religious freedom, doesn't that mean you're allowed to talk about the beliefs you get from that religion?"

 

Of course, it doesn't really count here because he went WAY overboard with the bestiality thing. But if he had just said "I disagree with homosexuality and think it's is a sin" would there have been the same amount of fuss?

[Tabe]

So I've been binge watching Friday Night Lights on Netflix . Great series so far, but what in the name if holy fuck was with the pipe murder at the beginning of season 2? Not only was it a disappointment as a conclusion of that particular story arc, but it seemed way out of place for the show as well. Please tell me ridiculous bullshit like this isn't a recurring theme in the upcoming.seasons?

Yeah, that one ends up sticking out like a sore thumb. You won't see anything else like it the entire rest of the series.

In the Grantland article some months ago, the creators basically admitted that it was a mistake.

You got a link to that article?

[Reed]

If you have to carry your bodyguard after he or she has been shot, then it should be implied that they quit already.

 

She's meant to be his bodyguard but he saves her life at least twice in that trailer. And this is only presumably their first couple of missions. Bodyguard fail.

 

Intelligence seems like a more action-y version of The Mentalist or Elementary, I guess with the idea you have a protagonist who can instantly tell everything about someone as soon as he meets them. Just seems a bit too silly to last to me.

 

Oh, and I predict there are about 4,342 "he can access internet porn anytime he wants" joke in the first season alone.

[Elsalvajeloco]

I think it's interesting because his opinions derive mostly from his religious beliefs. And then you get into the issue of "Well, if you have religious freedom, doesn't that mean you're allowed to talk about the beliefs you get from that religion?"

 

Of course, it doesn't really count here because he went WAY overboard with the bestiality thing. But if he had just said "I disagree with homosexuality and think it's is a sin" would there have been the same amount of fuss?

 

I doubt it. Look at ESPN's Chris Broussard when Jason Collins came out. Even though I dislike Broussard (for other reasons), he was smart enough not to put extras on it and was barely reprimanded if at all. ESPN couldn't really do anything to him. ESPN basically contradicted themselves by saying that LZ Granderson (who is a well known gay columnist/reporter) was able to speak on the issue personally, but Broussard wasn't (IIRC the president of the network said explicitly). Both guys have the same job and telling one person to not discuss a matter is skewing what's important in covering the subject. I've listened to LZ before and he isn't exactly easily offended. They don't need to fucking protect the guy since he is the go-to person for all things gay in sports.

 

It's an ass backwards point of view especially when it's suppose to be a place for intelligent debate. It wasn't like the Rob Parker situation where someone came from the wrong place and was probably fed stuff to spark controversy and went too far. He gave a true personal opinion that clearly had no malice behind it in any way, shape, or form. You just disagree with him and keep it pushing.

[Joe Lucia]

You know what has Duck in the title and isn't terrible?

 

 

Honestly thought you were going to go with this.

 

[Raziel]

The Duck Dynasty thing is just a redo of the Chik-fil-a debacle.  Left boycotts won't lead to anything, and the Patriots will buy Duck Defender shit in droves to show those "intolerents".  Robinson is gonna make a truckload of money off this.  Good Press move.

[Matt D]

Come on, DVDVR is the place I go to escape things like this being all over my facebook wall and what not. 

 

Let's talk about Dracula instead.