Lamp, broken circa 1988 Posted February 25, 2018 Posted February 25, 2018 Okay, I just want to say that I'm saying this out of concern for how angry people get over this stuff. I'm trying to cut those bad feelings off at the pass. Y'all talk about development studios like they're bands and not companies in an industry with very high burnout and turnover. While I know Hudson just came back, there's a good chance that many artists, writers and programmers have already left the BioWare that you're ascribing these values to. That's how you end up in situations where, say, you loved Saints Row The Third and are utterly repulsed by Agents of Mayhem- it's because that team that made that thing you like left that company long ago. That stuff doesn't get publicized, because it shouldn't be, because these are tech companies and not bands.
Death From Above Posted February 25, 2018 Posted February 25, 2018 Still chuckling to myself about people actually trying to sell me on Saint's Row 4: The Asset Recyclgeddon instead of Sleeping Dogs. I cross paths with a couple people at Bioware Edmonton on social media just through our natural proximity, and although they obviously can't talk specific details of projects I still very much get the sense that internally they think Anthem is real, real good, and the overriding sense of it being a place people actually like working at least hasn't changed. I get that people come and go, and I get that people are worried that EA could fuck up making chocolate milk ("what if we sell them the squeeze syrup, then charge them again to actually put it in the glass?"), but I'd like to think they can still pull this off.
RIPPA Posted February 25, 2018 Author Posted February 25, 2018 EA would drink chocolate milk to show how diverse they are 1 5
Craig H Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 On 2/24/2018 at 7:43 PM, Lamp, broken circa 1988 said: Okay, I just want to say that I'm saying this out of concern for how angry people get over this stuff. I'm trying to cut those bad feelings off at the pass. Y'all talk about development studios like they're bands and not companies in an industry with very high burnout and turnover. While I know Hudson just came back, there's a good chance that many artists, writers and programmers have already left the BioWare that you're ascribing these values to. That's how you end up in situations where, say, you loved Saints Row The Third and are utterly repulsed by Agents of Mayhem- it's because that team that made that thing you like left that company long ago. That stuff doesn't get publicized, because it shouldn't be, because these are tech companies and not bands. To be fair, a good friend of mine worked on saints row the third, he worked on 4 and agents, he's still at volition, as are many people he worked with.
Death From Above Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 So the original X-Com designer has a new game coming out later this year. Looks like he plans to compete with his own creation.
Super Ape Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 On 2/24/2018 at 7:43 PM, Lamp, broken circa 1988 said: Okay, I just want to say that I'm saying this out of concern for how angry people get over this stuff. I'm trying to cut those bad feelings off at the pass. Y'all talk about development studios like they're bands and not companies in an industry with very high burnout and turnover. While I know Hudson just came back, there's a good chance that many artists, writers and programmers have already left the BioWare that you're ascribing these values to. That's how you end up in situations where, say, you loved Saints Row The Third and are utterly repulsed by Agents of Mayhem- it's because that team that made that thing you like left that company long ago. That stuff doesn't get publicized, because it shouldn't be, because these are tech companies and not bands. This is the sort of shit that makes it easier to digest that stuff like Sonic Mania was a lightning-in-a-bottle thing and not to expect the same quality in later releases. See also; any Castlevania other than CV, SCV4, Rondo, or Symphony, as well as Metal Gear post-Kojima.
John E. Dynamite Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Super Ape said: See also; any Castlevania other than CV, SCV4, Rondo, or Symphony Whoa, hold up my dude. Did you ever own a Nintendo handheld? There are no bad Metroidvanias. The worst one is Harmony of Dissonance, which is *great*. Sure they might be cookie cutter but that doesn't stop them from being delicious fuckin' cookies.
Matt D Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 30 minutes ago, John E. Dynamite said: Whoa, hold up my dude. Did you ever own a Nintendo handheld? There are no bad Metroidvanias. The worst one is Harmony of Dissonance, which is *great*. Sure they might be cookie cutter but that doesn't stop them from being delicious fuckin' cookies. This guy is right.
Tromatagon Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 And Bloodlines was the shit too. It's 10 times better than 4.
Cliff Hanger Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 6 hours ago, John E. Dynamite said: Whoa, hold up my dude. Did you ever own a Nintendo handheld? There are no bad Metroidvanias. The worst one is Harmony of Dissonance, which is *great*. Sure they might be cookie cutter but that doesn't stop them from being delicious fuckin' cookies. Circle of the Moon is drastically inferior to Harmony of Dissonance. It's ambitious but I feel like it neither understands the GBA's hardware (unsurprising as a third-party launch title) nor the microscopic things that made Symphony so beloved. The run and jump physics feel off to an off-putting degree, and the soul system needed a lot of work. I have played worse imitators of the metroidvania formula, but I just don't understand any argument that it's better than any other non-linear Castlevania ever (I can go either way on Simon's Quest depending on my mood).
Death From Above Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 Simon's Quest is not a good game, but I appreciate that it managed to at least try something pretty radically different for the time. It's the kind of game that would have been so much better and more refined 10 years later if you started with the same basic ideas. I consider it a failure, but a salute-worthy one.
Super Ape Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 Never played the GBA Vanias so I can’t vouch for them. Forgot about Bloodlines, which was excellent though. Thanks for the reminder!
J.T. Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 On 2/26/2018 at 11:36 PM, Craig H said: Looks like the Zerg queen. You say that like it's a bad thing. The Queen of Blades is still my preferred desktop wallpaper.
J.T. Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 I am normally not a fan of survival horror games not named Resident Evil, but I may have to give The Blackout Club a try. It is like someone made a game out of an episode of Stranger Things and used the engine from Left For Dead. 1
Jiji Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 They have my attention but I'll obviously need to see more.
Tromatagon Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 Hmmm Co-Op and horror can work together, but usually don't and probably won't but I still want to try it
Death From Above Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 I don't like horror games I prefer my mass murder to be jovial or epic in nature.
Jiji Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 I've had a recent hankering to get back into left 4 dead. If this could eventually scratch my itch, that'd be cool.
J.T. Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, Oyaji said: Anybody else hyped for Sea of Thieves? I was when I thought it was more Sid Meier's Pirates and less Pirate 101. 1
odessasteps Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 I had been hyped for a while but I played the beta (after I got the pre order code) but didn't really do much for me.
Jiji Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 Were you playing solo? It does seem, from everything I've watched and read, it's a game you need 2 or 3 friends to play with to get any joy.
odessasteps Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 Yeah, as someone that prefers single over multiplayer, it will likely be a big miss for me.
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