Archibald Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Yes folks, we are hitting three nights: https://www.njpw1972.com/103591 Thou from the text it is not clear if 1/8 is replacing NYD or is it going to be legit "final night" of WK tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archibald Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 Ok, since it looks like I'm only person still fully watching NJPW in the current year then I'll try to explain what, in my opinion, is going on and whats the plan for ending this "season". Obviously this will contain spoilers. Since we started getting double domes NJPW started booking "gimmick matches". First time we had double dash tournament. Last year we had "Jay cheated" storyline. With Ospreay being back and declaring that he is real champ who never lost its fairly obvious that the plan here is to do "fake vs real" champ. 1/4 is likely to be champ vs G1 winner because thats the tradition. Ospreay wanted to beat Okada in the dome before shows got cancelled so thats likely going to be his match. Maybe it is semi-main on 1/4, maybe it is main on 1/5 and we get "fake vs real" on 1/8. Either way I feel like we are 100% getting Ospreay vs someone in main WK main event. This means that Okada is likely not winning G1. He rolled up Cobb at the Dome, then got beaten by him at Grand Slam. Now they are in same G1 block. I think that Cobb is going to beat Okada again and maybe screw him out of the finals. They have one final singles match at Power Struggle where Okada finally convincingly beats him. This would be traditional NJPW booking with challenger beating #2 guy and going to face the faction leader. Shingo is walking into G1 as the champ, but my suspicion is that he is not walking into WK as one. I think he is dropping it at Power Struggle to Ibushi because to me it looks like the overall plan is for Ibushi to beat Ospreay in main WK main event. If I'm not mistaken Power Struggle never had heavyweight title change so it has to happen at some point and now is as good opportunity to do it as ever. Who wins G1? I think it doesn't really matter in this situation since I have Ibushi being the champ and beating G1 winner. So can't Ibushi just win G1 then? I think its unlikely that he'd win 3 in a row. My wild guess would be that its either Naito or Sanada. So thats what my view is on main WK matches. Maybe later I'll try to write up what I think is going on with other titles. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raziel Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Do we need a show thread 4 months out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archibald Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 17 hours ago, Raziel said: Do we need a show thread 4 months out? Maybe, maybe not. I guess mods could merge it to general discussions thread if they feel like it. Anyway, some more of my thoughts and where I think things are going. With addition of Bey in USA and Sho in Japan, Bullet Club now has 16 members. It was too big last year and this year it got even bigger. But I think that things might finally be changing with the addition of House of Torture. Asides of guys involved it does sound like The Elite/Firing Squad situation. White does not have an obvious opponent for WK and he is one of the main guys. Evil does not have obvious match either and he is not really pushed down the card since he just got a title match and looking at G1 blocks it is plausible that he makes the finals. There were lots of talking last year how Evil does not really fit Bullet Club and should have created his own faction. Well maybe House of Torture was that, but due to Covid and them being short on guys (even more than now, I know, hard to believe) they possibly delayed formation of this new faction. So you know, White/Evil for NEVER title and Bullet Club leadership at WK. White wins and Evil leaves with few guys to form a new faction that does lots of bullshit in their matches. On another side we have GoD and Good Brothers doing obvious work on Twitter and Resurgence show. In a way this does feel like a continuation of half-finished Bullet Club/The Elite feud since GB are associated with Kenny and Bucks now (or at least where when I last saw them). Big question here is can they get GB to Japan, if they can then I think that GoD/GB is happening at WK. Since GB are Impact tag team champions and we have multiple days to fill I think its likely that we'll also get some mini tournament for tag team titles that ends with GoD being double tag team champs just like they did after MSG, hopefully no Enzo/Cass this time. But as I said, if they can't get Good Brothers into Japan then none of it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontaneous Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 I could see Night 1 with Ibushi defeating G1 winner Sanada and Ospreay defending the real world title vs Okada. Night 2, Ibushi vs Ospreay. Night 3, Ibushi vs whomever challenges after 1/5, Tanahashi? I wonder what titles end up defended. Maybe they could work out Moxley for a stretch, vs Tanahashi for the IWGP US title? I imagine the tag belts are candidates to be defended at least twice. Hiromu-Ishimori was second from the top, could Hiromu-Desperado headline a show? That and Ibushi-Okada are the only simmering feuds they have. Getting Lawlor over to defend the Strong Openweight title one of the nights would be awesome. A lot depends on restrictions on travel in the months leading up to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beech27 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) Per Dave, Omega does want to wrestle Ospreay somewhere, at some point, and they appear to be working something on twitter. Maybe one of these shows would be the place. Edited September 10, 2021 by Beech27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archibald Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 Silver lining in Ibushi getting injured is that I can pretend that I wasn't completely wrong about everything and plans had to change due to the injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Shingo Takagi defends the IWGP World Heavyweight Championship against G1 Climax 31 winner Kazuchika Okada on the 4th of January. Confirmed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Winner of the IWGP World HW match faces Will at 1.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salads Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I'm not confused at all by the current belt-holding situation, but I'm wondering how many consecutive years they'll feel the need to keep setting up these double night title match scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Undisputed IWGP World HW match on 1.5. So all this belt chaos will be over by then. https://www.njpw1972.com/108730 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 hours ago, D.Z said: Undisputed IWGP World HW match on 1.5. So all this belt chaos will be over by then. https://www.njpw1972.com/108730 C'mon Kazuchika Okada. Okada's my first choice then Shingo Takagi and Will Ospreay miles back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archibald Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 13 hours ago, Salads said: I'm not confused at all by the current belt-holding situation, but I'm wondering how many consecutive years they'll feel the need to keep setting up these double night title match scenarios. Probably as long as we get double dome shows. Which makes me wonder, what was the original plan? Because surely they didn't plan that Ospreay is going to vacate the title, or did they? Anyway, to me it looks like Goto/Yoshi/Yoh vs Evil/Yujiro/Sho is going to be WK title match for trios belts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salads Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) On 11/15/2021 at 8:55 AM, Archibald said: Probably as long as we get double dome shows. Which makes me wonder, what was the original plan? Because surely they didn't plan that Ospreay is going to vacate the title, or did they? I'm assuming not, because I don't think they've had the luxury of being able to follow through any long term plans over the last two years. They may not have known who was going to win the G1, for example. It would be fascinating to see all of what could possibly be tens of booking revisions that have had to be made to date what with covid cases, covid regulations, injuries, title vacations etc. Every now and then Tony Khsn mentions how he's in regular contact with NJPW - speculation on my part but assuming there's a desire for talent to move both ways across the Pacific there may have been a plan early on that's had to be kciked down the road from 2020 to 2022 with amendments needed each time. Edited November 16, 2021 by Salads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 The third night of WK will be NJPW vs NOAH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAN Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, D.Z said: The third night of WK will be NJPW vs NOAH. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt925 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Will be the first of many “dream events” for the 50th anniversary. Will stream on world one week after the ppv, so pretty bullish on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) They want to go back to the open days of NJPW, vs NOAH. Edited November 20, 2021 by D.Z 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archibald Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 So that explains how they'll fill three WK shows. Not being available for a week doesn't sound exciting, but at the same time I'll be surprised if the show will have many singles matches or tag matches without obvious fall guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Mutoh wants to face Okada. Wonder if we get Fujita back on a NJPW ring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, matt925 said: Will be the first of many “dream events” for the 50th anniversary. Won't happen, but I would love it if these dream events were NJPW vs. other promotions in general. One for AJPW, WWE, AEW, and maybe CMLL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt925 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Eivion said: Won't happen, but I would love it if these dream events were NJPW vs. other promotions in general. One for AJPW, WWE, AEW, and maybe CMLL. To me that implies more crossover shows. There’s no way wwe could happen, maybe a few years ago nxt but not now, but I think there will be more. And it might not make sense for aew to co-promote a show with new japan here in the us, but maybe an aew vs new japan show in japan could happen. Tony said he’s been in talks with gedo and new japan about future plans, and it was assumed it was about Okada, but what if aew could go to japan next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Unexpected but welcome announcement. Kazuchika Okada savages NOAH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinube Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Cost is 3960 yen on Abema. 3600 if you are already a premium member. https://abema-ppv-onlinelive.abema.tv/posts/23592302 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordi the recovering AEW f Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) You could pretty easily do NJPW vs "Dudes who have been released by WWE and not yet signed up by Tony Khan" and it would be an excellent show. Tell me you don't want Keith Lee vs, say, Shingo or, like, Tucky vs Ishii. Edited November 20, 2021 by Gordberg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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