OSJ Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Any of these writers that makes a sweeping generalization like that needs to have their ballot taken away, plain and simple. Yes, everyone is entitled to an INFORMED opinion. By definition, a generalization cannot be an informed opinion. I'm really sick of these jackholes that think because they have a ballot the HOF is about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 We have a 2nd non-Maddux voter (in our poll)? For shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Well, it doesn't matter anymore since that punkass shithead said he'll never vote for anyone ever again. Fuck him. Then the BBWAA should strip him of his vote, they don't have the balls though. Be a jackass all you want, but don't state point blank you won't vote for anyone in the future. Especially when your vote this year is for jack "one GREAT pitching performance and a 3.90 era" Morris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 These motherfuckers got me heated. If Maddux isn't a hall of fame pitcher nobody is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I changed the title since this basically became the de facto thread. Remember the vote will be released at 2 pm EST today. In our poll (which I sadly couldn't close without locking the whole thread), 3 folks would get in 54 people voted - so 40.5 votes were needed (I think the Writer's Association rounds up so we will say you need 41 votes) Greg Maddux - 52/54 (96.3%) Tom Glavine - 45/54 (81.5%) Frank Thomas - 44/54 (83.3%) The closest people to not make in our vote were Bonds and Clemens - who each got 37 votes (68.5%) So while we clearly don't mind the PED users - I am still trying to figure out then why Biggio, Piazza and Bagwell are doing so poorly. Oh and you all fucking suck for hating Tim Raines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristobal Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 If Bonds and Clemens are 37 votes apiece, 25-34 votes is about the right level for Biggio/Piazza/Bagwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I changed the title since this basically became the de facto thread. Remember the vote will be released at 2 pm EST today. In our poll (which I sadly couldn't close without locking the whole thread), 3 folks would get in 54 people voted - so 40.5 votes were needed (I think the Writer's Association rounds up so we will say you need 41 votes) Greg Maddux - 52/54 (96.3%) Tom Glavine - 45/54 (81.5%) Frank Thomas - 44/54 (83.3%) The closest people to not make in our vote were Bonds and Clemens - who each got 37 votes (68.5%) So while we clearly don't mind the PED users - I am still trying to figure out then why Biggio, Piazza and Bagwell are doing so poorly. Oh and you all fucking suck for hating Tim Raines If its those three, they are all worthy. With the managers, it would be the most load HOF class in a long time right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Lucia Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 My final prediction... Maddux, Glavine, Thomas all get in - Maddux with one of the five highest percentages ever. Biggio breaks 70%, but falls short. Piazza between 60-65%. Morris under 65%. Bonds/Clemens around 40-45%. Mattingly under 5% and falls off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Mattingly under 5% and falls off. Now you are just trying to hurt me Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Maddux, Glavine and Thomas made it. . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Biggio missed it by that much. . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 2.3 percent of voters should have their votes revoked. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Maddux was 97.2% so no record for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Palermeiro drops off the ballot. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Jacque Jones got a HOF vote. Nope... nothing wrong with the system at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Mattingly under 5% and falls off. Now you are just trying to hurt me Joe 8.2%!!!! USA! USA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Jacque Jones got a HOF vote. Nope... nothing wrong with the system at all Guys paying back favors like that is exactly how Rick FUCKING Ferrell got in on the veterans committee decades ago(re Bill James book on the HOF) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Mattingly under 5% and falls off. Now you are just trying to hurt me Joe 8.2%!!!! USA! USA! No offense at all RIppa, but it boggles the mind that Palmeiro drops off, and Mattingly doesn;t. I mean Jesus 3000 hits and 500 HRs. I don't think he's worthy(Raffy), just amazes me. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Raffy was attached to PEDs If he wasn't he would hang around the back end of the ballot. I think it is as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 What's interesting is that the MLB network think Smotlz is a slam dunk next year, and Schilling isn't. I guess the saves are what put him over the top, because otherwise their very close. Not that I disagree, based on gut reaction that would be my pick, which is why I'm not voting. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Raffy was attached to PEDs If he wasn't he would hang around the back end of the ballot. I think it is as simple as that. Figured as such, and he has the most memorable smoking gun of the bunch, but it is still mind blowing that he fell off the ballot entirely. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I accepted a long time ago that my all time favorite player wasn't going to make the Hall of Fame but I am thrilled that he is going to get his full 15 years on the ballot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Lucia Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 My final prediction... Maddux, Glavine, Thomas all get in - Maddux with one of the five highest percentages ever. Biggio breaks 70%, but falls short. Piazza between 60-65%. Morris under 65%. Bonds/Clemens around 40-45%. Mattingly under 5% and falls off. Maddux pulled 97.2% - great number, but it's been surpassed a lot. Biggio missed by two votes. TWO FUCKING VOTES. Embarassing. 62.2% for Piazza, 61.5% for Morris - good riddance, Jack. Bonds had 34.7%, Clemens had 35.4% - didn't expect a drop. Mattingly lives to see his final year on the ballot. Re: Palmeiro. In my mind, here's the major difference between him and the other PED guys - he failed a test and was suspended after they were outlawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Schilling's best argument is the absurd post season numbers. Once again, I maintain that every voter who didn't have Bonds and Clemons on their ballot had no business having a ballot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I was just talking about this with Ed. Since Maddux did not break Seaver's record - is Derek Jeter the last chance? I think Mariano won't do it because there will be enough "Oh he was just a closer" people And I don't think Junior will do it because to many folks will claim that "he probably did PEDs" Big Unit was a dick so he won't do it Pedro's career was shorter and he was a dick so not him either Who am I spacing on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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