2017 Summer Blockbuster Movie Pool

[S.K.o.S.]

Oh and btw, for the people that put Dunkirk too low on their box office list, even if you put aside the appeal of a Nolan movie you should have taken into account the inflated ticket prices from Imax screenings.  I realized this last night when I had to pay $14 to see it on a Tuesday.

[J.T.]

8 minutes ago, S.K.o.S. said:

I'm glad to hear signs point to Dark Tower not being good, but I have it dead last on my RT list, which is a very tough sell at this point.  I mean it could get 20% and there would still be 5 movies that did worse.

The odd thing about my ballot is that I have Dark Tower around the middle, but the lower half of my RT list is chock full of relatively shit movie while the top nine or so films have been highly acclaimed or at least regarded warmly.

Having a handle on which movies were awesome and which movies were crap has worked out for me so far.  I'm not out of prize contention yet.

Just now, S.K.o.S. said:

Oh and btw, for the people that put Dunkirk too low on their box office list, even if you put aside the appeal of a Nolan movie you should have taken into account the inflated ticket prices from Imax screenings.  I realized this last night when I had to pay $14 to see it on a Tuesday.

I did not take this into consideration.  I think my tiebreak was a bit too modest.

[Elsalvajeloco]

The Dark Tower embargo ends tonight at 11 p.m. ET IIRC. That's why there isn't any reviews.

[Elsalvajeloco]

Ok the embargo has been lifted and the reviews are pretty much as expected

BUT

Rotten Tomatoes somehow counts this as a positive review:

'The Dark Tower' will make you feel bad for Stephen King

 

 

[Elsalvajeloco]

51 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

Ok the embargo has been lifted and the reviews are pretty much as expected

BUT

Rotten Tomatoes somehow counts this as a positive review:

'The Dark Tower' will make you feel bad for Stephen King

 

 

Update: It has been now changed to rotten so all is right in the world.

Except for The Dark Tower, of course.

[Niners Fan in CT]

3 Fresh and 14 Rotten.   18%.   4/10  average.  With that kind of average I don't see it creeping up past 25%.   Well,  I hope  "IT" is as good as the trailers and TV spots have been.  

[J.T.]

My cold comfort for The Dark Tower being a piece of trash is learning that Annabelle:  Creation has 14 reviews in and it is 100% Fresh.

I am praying that the review rating doesn't bottom out before the 11th. 

It is interesting that most of the reviews for A:C start off with the caveat that it is not as cerebral or thought provoking as Get Out, It Comes At Night, or The Girl With All The Gifts, but it is still a pretty decent scare.

That tends to make me conclude that this movie is not so fresh as advertised.

[Death From Above]

Everything I've heard about the Dark Tower production makes it sound like something that has been in production/on the shelf for years and the studio just said "fuck it release the best cut we can and cut our losses". I'm not sure if that's totally accurate, but it sure seems like there's smoke, you know what I mean?

[Elsalvajeloco]

2 hours ago, Death From Above said:

Everything I've heard about the Dark Tower production makes it sound like something that has been in production/on the shelf for years and the studio just said "fuck it release the best cut we can and cut our losses". I'm not sure if that's totally accurate, but it sure seems like there's smoke, you know what I mean?

Once they got the stars of the film, they fast tracked it pretty quickly so it's not like they filmed it two and a half years ago, changed the release date a bunch of times, and then dumped it on a random date like WB did with Geostorm. They got the stars, filmed it, and gave it a good release date.

It seems like Sony thought they had all their ducks in a row, then realized during principal photography that Arcel wasn't the guy to translate it to a motion picture but decided they went too big to bail out now.

They probably also realized the screenplay was horrifically bad.

[J.T.]

if the argument that the movie sucks is that it feels incomplete, then I will be pissed off.

It's supposed to feel incomplete.  There's a whole television series and another movie to factor in, and that will be in jeopardy if this thing turns out to be atrocious.

If they manage to get through Wizard & Glass before entire project implodes, I think I will survive.

[Death From Above]

1 hour ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

Once they got the stars of the film, they fast tracked it pretty quickly so it's not like they filmed it two and a half years ago, changed the release date a bunch of times, and then dumped it on a random date like WB did with Geostorm. They got the stars, filmed it, and gave it a good release date.

It seems like Sony thought they had all their ducks in a row, then realized during principal photography that Arcel wasn't the guy to translate it to a motion picture but decided they went too big to bail out now.

They probably also realized the screenplay was horrifically bad.

My understanding is the film had two previous directors attached to the project before the guy that finally made it, each for significant chunks of time, during an extremely lengthy pre-production phase that dragged on for years.

[RIPPA]

God Dammit - I just looked and somehow I put Emoji Movie ahead of THREE other movies on the RT list

I fucking suck

[Kuetsar]

As someone with no knowledge of the Dark Tower story(I started the first book a long time ago, didn't care for it, never tried again), I just have to say I HATE the "guys from another universe interacting with the people from our universe thing", like Masters of the universe. . . . .

[Elsalvajeloco]

2 hours ago, Death From Above said:

My understanding is the film had two previous directors attached to the project before the guy that finally made it, each for significant chunks of time, during an extremely lengthy pre-production phase that dragged on for years.

They had two directors in mind but no studio actually offically greenlit this first film until Arcel was attached.  Sony got the rights after Universal and Warner Bros. passed on it. So the only concrete thing that was actually worked on was the script really.  So the development stage was pretty long. The actual pre-production phase of the SPE version...not so much.

[The Unholy Dragon]

Emoji Movie and Dark Tower both being garbage is totally gonna screw me.

I thought the former would be a middling kids comedy which would get a lot of lukewarm positive reviews and the latter would be a flawed but satisfying summer action flick. Instead they're both crap on toast, to such a degree that I'm positive I'm going from second to the bottom midlist within 1-2 updates and staying tanked until the end.

Icarus moment here.

[Brian Fowler]

All I care about is getting a good adaptation of Wizard & Glass, if these assholes fucked that up.... Grrr

[RIPPA]

Good news is that Dark Tower will win the weekend BO

Bad news is that it is gonna do it with barely 20 Million

[Brian Fowler]

Or not quite twenty

[EVA]

Unless the overseas is unreal, there aren't gonna be any more movies or a TV show in this series.

Just wait 5 years and maybe they'll get it right in the reboot.

[Death From Above]

I think the TV show is already happening, though of course that doesn't guarantee it actually is a hit that lasts.

[EVA]

The TV show is very early in pre.  They just hired a showrunner.  It would be nothing to quietly stop developing it at this point.

The people behind this movie only put $70 million into the budget.  Even assuming some creative accounting, they did not finance this thing comparably to other big franchise pictures.  So I'm inclined to think they're cheapskates who, despite all the grand plans talked about in the press, were hedging against this from the start and aren't the type to throw good money after bad.

[Brian Fowler]

The low budget is the only possible saving grace. Maybe it sneaks a profit.

But yeah they probably have managed to kill this dead after 7 years of development. Way to fucking go.

[Niners Fan in CT]

Take note internet,  this is what a true franchise killer looks like. 

[S.K.o.S.]

UPDATE 13 OF 17 - through August 3

Standings

1 [↑ 3] _MJ_ - 40 points (24/16, tiebreak 0.311)
2 [↓ 1] Elsalvajeloco - 44 points (18/26, tiebreak 0.108)
3 [↑ 7] caley - 48 points (26/22, tiebreak 0.215)
4 [- 4] Paco - 52 points (20/32, tiebreak 0.157)
5 [↑ 10] J.T. - 52 points (28/24, tiebreak 0.294)
6 [↑ 16] The Natural - 52 points (34/18, tiebreak 0.448)
7 [↑ 9] Niners Fan in CT - 54 points (24/30, tiebreak 0.892)
8 [↑ 11] DreamBroken - 56 points (28/28, tiebreak 0.105)
9 [↑ 14] Rippa - 56 points (24/32, tiebreak 0.132)
10 [↓ 8] The Erotic Terrorist - 56 points (24/32, tiebreak 0.368)
11 [↑ 12] Lacelle - 56 points (16/40, tiebreak 2.036)
12 [↓ 2] The Unholy Dragon - 58 points (26/32, tiebreak 0.049)
13 [- 13] RossWB - 58 points (28/30, tiebreak 0.137)
14 [↑ 17] hobo joe - 58 points (20/38, tiebreak 0.181)
15 [↓ 6] S.K.o.S. - 58 points (26/32, tiebreak 0.318)
16 [↓ 5] The Z - 60 points (30/30, tiebreak 0.315)
17 [↑ 19] JRGoldman - 62 points (34/28, tiebreak 0.098)
18 [↑ 21] Hail Sabin - 64 points (34/30, tiebreak 0.041)
19 [↑ 22] King Leonidas of Sparta - 68 points (38/30, tiebreak 0.863)
20 [↓ 18] Sublime - 70 points (34/36, tiebreak 0.365)
21 [↓ 20] Phantom Lord - 72 points (26/46, tiebreak 0.259)
22 [↓ 15] CSC - 74 points (24/50, tiebreak 0.279)
23 [↑ 24] Kuetsar - 82 points (38/44, tiebreak 0.735)
24 [↓ 23] ivpvideos - 84 points (36/48, tiebreak 0.126)
25 [- 25] Ace - 86 points (46/40, tiebreak 0.041)
26 [- 26] SorceressKnight - 86 points (26/60, tiebreak 0.193)

Box office

1 [- 1] Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 - $345,741,332 (28 days)
2 [- 2] Wonder Woman - $330,529,475 (28 days)
3 [- 3] Spider-Man: Homecoming - $286,107,776 (28 days)
4 [- 4] Despicable Me 3 - $222,699,905 (28 days)
5 [- 5] Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales - $154,765,326 (28 days)
6 [- 6] Cars 3 - $136,864,500 (28 days)
7 [- 7] Transformers: The Last Knight - $125,810,415 (28 days)
8 [- 8] War for the Planet of the Apes - $124,280,255 (21 days)
9 [↑ 11] Dunkirk - $115,955,738 (14 days)
10 [↓ 9] Baby Driver - $86,363,750 (28 days)
11 [↓ 10] The Mummy - $76,810,270 (28 days)
12 [- 12] Alien: Covenant - $72,185,985 (28 days)
13 [- 13] Captain Underpants: The First Epic Movie - $68,145,793 (28 days)
14 [- 14] Baywatch - $55,732,692 (28 days)
15 [- 15] All Eyez On Me - $44,578,273 (28 days)
16 [- 16] King Arthur: Legend of the Sword - $37,760,563 (28 days)
17 [NEW] The Emoji Movie - $37,101,704 (7 days)
18 [↓ 17] Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets - $33,741,883 (14 days)
19 [NEW] Atomic Blonde - $25,880,375 (7 days)

Rotten Tomatoes

1 [- 1] Baby Driver - 239/253 = 94% (28 days)
2 [- 2] War for the Planet of the Apes - 234/251 = 93% (21 days)
3 [- 3] Dunkirk - 299/323 = 93% (14 days)
4 [- 4] Spider-Man: Homecoming - 257/279 = 92% (28 days)
5 [- 5] Wonder Woman - 285/310 = 92% (28 days)
6 [- 6] Captain Underpants: The First Epic Movie - 61/72 = 85% (28 days)
7 [- 7] Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 - 238/293 = 81% (28 days)
8 [NEW] Atomic Blonde - 134/177 = 76% (7 days)
9 [↓ 8] Alien: Covenant - 202/286 = 71% (28 days)
10 [↓ 9] Cars 3 - 105/155 = 68% (28 days)
11 [↓ 10] Despicable Me 3 - 92/151 = 61% (28 days)
12 [↓ 11] Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets - 94/186 = 51% (14 days)
13 [↓ 12] Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales - 60/209 = 29% (28 days)
14 [↓ 13] King Arthur: Legend of the Sword - 57/200 = 29% (28 days)
15 [↓ 14] Baywatch - 34/178 = 19% (28 days)
16 [↓ 15] All Eyez On Me - 11/68 = 16% (28 days)
17 [↓ 16] The Mummy - 35/230 = 15% (28 days)
18 [↓ 17] Transformers: The Last Knight - 26/176 = 15% (28 days)
19 [NEW] The Emoji Movie - 6/75 = 8% (7 days)

[S.K.o.S.]

That race for last place just got a lot closer.