J.H. Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I think it's a given at this point that Cosmic Angels are breaking off from STARS. Tam has the personality to carry her own faction, hell she is the 2nd most charismatic person on the roster after Giulia (though you can make a strong case for Utami). She is also all around a great performer, who always looks like she is enjoying what she is doing. Hey, I like a wrestler that is serious, but sometimes being too serious ma not fun to watch as a fan... Tam ALWAYS seems to be having a blast based on her body language. Like she actually loves wrestling more than anything in the world. James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Tam breaking off would leave STARS in a weak position. Mina & Unagi are very much mid carders which don't make for a strong unit. Also don't find Utami very charismatic at all, let alone in the top three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofuture Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Riho joining Stars would probably balance out things. Also, there's always a chance that they're not done signing up talent yet, especially after losing the 3 sisters for the foreseeable future. I do agree with Eivion about Utami's charisma. She's got stoic part down, but there's not much else there. She's not that great of promo and still seems a bit shy. She seems like she's getting more comfortable, but still not there yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 If Riho was going to join any groups it feels like it would have happened already. They seem to avoid pushing her forward in Stardom due to her being an AEW talent. I don't think Stardom is done signing talent at all, but who knows when the next ones will happen. If they get another 3 people or so I can see them breaking Cosmic Angles off. Otherwise it just doesn't seem like a good idea as it would damage STARS and create a 3 person unit that has no real strength beyond Tam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I think they want to create some tension in group eventually. Noticed Lady C is listed as independent unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I think they are finally trying to build Tam/Mayu as a booster for Tam using the tension that has kind of been there for a while now with how Mayu has somewhat ignored Tam at times despite bringing her into STARS. I think it could lead to CA leaving. I just think it might be a little early for that with the current roster. 56 minutes ago, D.Z said: Noticed Lady C is listed as independent unit. Rookies tend to be on their own until they choose a faction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Stardoms metrics and business are up with increases. So are the views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 3 hours ago, D.Z said: Stardoms metrics and business are up with increases. So are the views. Saw this on the subreddit. Most of their metrics increased by 200% or more. The big ones that bring them the most money were Stardom World (200%), the fan club (750%), & web sales (800%). It will be very interesting to see what attendances look like post-pandemic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) They will also be on more tv slots on different stations. Edited December 12, 2020 by D.Z 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofuture Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Still pretty amazing that Stardom can lose 2 of their biggest draws at the start of the pandemic and seemingly be in a better standing at the end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 3 hours ago, nofuture said: Still pretty amazing that Stardom can lose 2 of their biggest draws at the start of the pandemic and seemingly be in a better standing at the end of the year. It is yet I'm somehow not surprised. Going into this year I actually think Stardom was the strongest they had ever been. Its why they weren't hit nearly as bad with their roster losses despite this possibly being their worst year in that respect (between 2020 and 2015). I'm just happy they managed to keep the momentum goign even with the pandemic screwing things up for attendances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Cute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.H. Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 So Tam made it official and Cosmic Angels are no longer with STARS. Starlight Kid has gone all surly about it apparently, which is kinda cool because she needed to have a voice of some kind. You can't be the happy go lucky masked girl there to eat the fall forever, especially with Yoneyana right there! James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Utami modified her gear. Some Stardom wrestlers will appear at WK and will be dark match. New Stardom Logo for next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 The logo is kind of bland though not bad. Was hoping CA wouldn't break off. We are getting Mayu/Tam as a big match finally next Osaka show so there is that at least. I'm guessing the WK match will be another regular tag with Bea & a OT member taking on Utami and either Giulia or Tam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofuture Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I'm surprised they're doing Mayu/Tam so soon seeing as that's something they could save for the Sumo Hall show. For the WK match, I think it's going to be a tag match with one each from each faction, most likely a combo of Mayu, Utami, Giulia and Tam. Seeing how it's a big spotlight match, I just don't think Bea or any OT member is really that big enough to warrant their inclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, nofuture said: For the WK match, I think it's going to be a tag match with one each from each faction, most likely a combo of Mayu, Utami, Giulia and Tam. Seeing how it's a big spotlight match, I just don't think Bea or any OT member is really that big enough to warrant their inclusion. Bea is working NJPW as a part of the Empire so it makes sense for her to actually to get showcased in a match. They also didn't give a damn about each faction getting a representative last year. I could see them going with the match you mentioned but I think they try to showcase some different people this year. 1 hour ago, nofuture said: I'm surprised they're doing Mayu/Tam so soon seeing as that's something they could save for the Sumo Hall show. There is no Sumo hall show. They seemingly canceled it and upgraded to Budokan in March. They aren't waiting that long for Mayu/Tam with the builds its gotten. I suspect come Budokan Mayu ends up in a match taking on former Stardom talent, maybe even a singles with Yoshiko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Wouldn't mind Battle Royal for the Dome. Did they mention what parts of the Budokan will be open? Kinda wish they borrowed NOAHs old camera set up for the Budokan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 TWO matches 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofuture Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Wasn't expecting two matches, but both make sense in being spotlight matches. Poor Oedo Tai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Bea & Konami new tag champs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofuture Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Things have gone full circle I see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenalysis Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 I think Western fans are going to turn on the promotion over this. Japanese fans will be excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.H. Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 So much for my Christmas wish of Nanae disappearing/retiring James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 It was obvious both would show up soon with the anniversary show coming and Yoshiko talking about wanting to face Mayu months ago. The rift was always more on the Nanae/Yoshiko side as Rossy never wanted either to leave. I do like that Kid and Iida got involved. Neither are winning whatever matches they get in the build up, but its nice they will likely get a big match or two out of it. Momo stepping up to Nanae is neat but would excite me more if I knew Momo was winning. Should still be a good match if/when it happens. 11 hours ago, alstein said: I think Western fans are going to turn on the promotion over this. Japanese fans will be excited. Even on the Western side things are more mixed than you would think. There is still a segment who choose to believe the Act-Yoshiko incident was a fight Act just happened to lose instead of a violent assault that forced her to retire for 4+ years (Act had a match back in November). You also have people like me who try to or have kind of moved on even if the incident bugs us to some degree still. In general though Western fans probably should move on to some degree if only because those actually involved have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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