Raw 8-12-13 - Summerslam Go-Home Show

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Is the idea that they were looking for one last Austin match or is the idea that they wanted to do HHH wrestling Vince's representative for control of the company?  If it is the latter, who can they toss out there as a big enough name that the internet fans won't whine about how HHH is obviously going over?

 

Rock's the only one who leaps to my mind, unless they rehire Angle.

[Fat Spanish Waiter]

Yes guys the world would rather see Bryan or Punk vs Austin over Triple H vs Austin.

 

Leave the fucking bubble sometimes.

[Fat Spanish Waiter]

Punk would at least work in that he's been booked as a star for a year or so, but Bryan?

[Charlie M.]

It's someone big from the Attitude Era that Austin can beat.  He's not coming back to put some young punk over in his first match in a decade.

[Ace]

And it's been done. Repeatedly and better than it would be here. It would also be shit for company morale.

[LooseCannon]

Yes guys the world would rather see Bryan or Punk vs Austin over Triple H vs Austin.

 

Leave the fucking bubble sometimes.

 

Would the world rather see HHH vs Austin or HHH vs Daniel Bryan?

[Dog]

It's someone big from the Attitude Era that Austin can beat.  He's not coming back to put some young punk over in his first match in a decade.

 

I think that sounds exactly like what he'd want to do.  Hasn't he said as much?

[Patrick B.]

If only the Punk fans would just admit they're wrong.  About everything.  Ever.  In their entire lives.  That seems reasonable enough.

[Charlie M.]

And it's been done. Repeatedly and better than it would be here. It would also be shit for company morale.

 

They'd get over it.  All that "the boys in the back are mad at The Rock" amounted to absolutely nothing.

 

It's not what *I* would do but if Austin's going to do more than one match, I think it's a fine idea for the first one so he can test out how his body reacts.

[Cristobal]

Yes guys the world would rather see Bryan or Punk vs Austin over Triple H vs Austin.

 

Leave the fucking bubble sometimes.

 

The world would probably rather see Hogan vs Austin. This is why you ignore the world and "do what's right for business", i.e. let Austin give someone the rub.

[Skelemania]

I think the world would rather see Austin Vs. Cena, honestly.

[MGFanJay]

 

Yes guys the world would rather see Bryan or Punk vs Austin over Triple H vs Austin.

 

Leave the fucking bubble sometimes.

 

Would the world rather see HHH vs Austin or HHH vs Daniel Bryan?

 

I don't think the world wants to see HHH in matches. HHH getting into a program with Bryan now just brings back memories of him shoe-horning himself into an angle with the then-hottest act in Punk two years ago so he can at least attempt to seem relevant. The problem is that being in there with each guy just points out how much fresher each of them feel compared to him, and how much better they are than him at this stage in the game. HHH comes off like the middle-aged dad who throws around modern phrases to try and seem cool, but has no idea what he's saying, so he just comes off as even more out of touch.

[Ace]

Doing Austin -v- HHH at WM would be a WCW move,

[Charlie M.]

You're just ignoring how into HHH vs Taker the people were?  The first Brock/HHH match did very well too.

 

There's a whole generation of WWE fans that have never seen Austin wrestle except on DVD's.

[Rev_Dr_Super_Fantastic]

Brock's description of Punk was spot on to me.

[Overly Critical Man]

Doing what's right for business usually results in putting your business in the toilet.

 

This is why you should usually give the world what they want and make millions of dollars(HHH vs Taker) rather than what's "right for business" (trying to convince people Dolph Ziggler or The Miz are stars).

[Patrick B.]

So once that group is no longer physically able to work matches(or, in the cases of Rock and Brock, just don't feel like doing it any more)...then what?

[Newb82]

You know how WWE convinces people that certain wrestlers are stars? They treat them like it.

It's why WM is the biggest show of the year despite rarely coming close to being the best PPV of the year, because WWE says and acts like it is.

[Overly Critical Man]

Make some random 23098023984-time world champion who really wasn't that big of a deal, a downloadable character in the newest WWE video game, bring him out and convince people he's a big deal(See: RVD, Chris Jericho. In ten years, See: Dolph Ziggler, Miz).

 

But seriously...Daniel Bryan is what the people want. He's right on the cusp of breaking out into something huge just like Punk was a couple of years ago.

 

Forcing it on people that haven't really earned it or who people don't want to have it(Say...Cody Rhodes), doesn't work out as well.

[Victator]

You're just ignoring how into HHH vs Taker the people were?  The first Brock/HHH match did very well too.

 

There's a whole generation of WWE fans that have never seen Austin wrestle except on DVD's.

Those were matches that had not been done to death a decade ago. 

[Charlie M.]

 

You're just ignoring how into HHH vs Taker the people were?  The first Brock/HHH match did very well too.

 

There's a whole generation of WWE fans that have never seen Austin wrestle except on DVD's.

Those were matches that had not been done to death a decade ago. 

 

 

It wasn't done to death.  It wasn't done that much at all compared to the other combinations at the time.

[Fat Spanish Waiter]

You're just ignoring how into HHH vs Taker the people were?  The first Brock/HHH match did very well too.

 

There's a whole generation of WWE fans that have never seen Austin wrestle except on DVD's.

Exactly. There's this bizarre, idiot mindset on here that is something along the lines of "If I don't like it, nobody likes it". So because you don't like Triple H, you assume that everybody doesn't. Even though there's just nothing whatsoever to support that notion. If Triple H tomorrow announced a full in-ring return, he'd be a top three babyface, maybe even the top one if Cena is in a smark hellhole like Chicago or Philly. He's a big deal. And if Austin wants to come back and do anything more than one match, it makes a ton of sense to put him up against Triple H first. Then he can beat Hunter, do some more stuff, and put over Ziggler, Miz or Punk level guys on his way out.

 

You guys have such a narrow perspective on things, and it's just unreal. You're a bunch of guys who've been watching wrestling for 20+ years. Your perspective on Triple H, CM Punk, Daniel Bryan etc is not the same as the vast majority of the 5 million or so that watch every week.

[Victator]

 

 

You're just ignoring how into HHH vs Taker the people were?  The first Brock/HHH match did very well too.

 

There's a whole generation of WWE fans that have never seen Austin wrestle except on DVD's.

Those were matches that had not been done to death a decade ago. 

 

 

It wasn't done to death.  It wasn't done that much at all compared to the other combinations at the time.

 

That three stages match was enough for three lifetimes. 

[MGFanJay]

 

You're just ignoring how into HHH vs Taker the people were?  The first Brock/HHH match did very well too.

 

There's a whole generation of WWE fans that have never seen Austin wrestle except on DVD's.

Those were matches that had not been done to death a decade ago. 

 

And HHH-Brock was so well received that people were chanting "you tapped out" and singing the goodbye song to HHH after it while he attempted to cry.

[Fat Spanish Waiter]

 

 

You're just ignoring how into HHH vs Taker the people were?  The first Brock/HHH match did very well too.

 

There's a whole generation of WWE fans that have never seen Austin wrestle except on DVD's.

Those were matches that had not been done to death a decade ago. 

 

And HHH-Brock was so well received that people were chanting "you tapped out" and singing the goodbye song to HHH after it while he attempted to cry.

 

CM Punk turned off viewers at an alarming rate right up until Rock saved him, were you beating the idiot drum on getting the title off him when that happened?