glfpunk Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 All you're really saying is that if it were you, you wouldn't have done that. Got it. But you're not. And it doesn't hurt his career. You need a reality check if 41yr old Cro Cop injecting HGH to rehab a bum shoulder for his last fight changes your views on his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Vitor Belfort had a doctor's note that he needed the steroids leading to his failed test in 2006. Chael Sonnen never took anything illegal. He was taking "medicine." Or maybe, just maybe Cro Cop was trying to game the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glfpunk Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 So you didn't read the story then. Because that's exactly what he said. Yeah he was trying to game the system. His shoulder was fucked up and he just wanted this last fight so he took the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zheroen Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Beyond anything else, I'll bet TheVileOne's indictment of his career hurts the worst for Mirko. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiztor Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 at the end of the day, Mirko fought in Pride. most people assume everyone in Pride was juicing. CroCop hasn't even been relevant in a number of years anyway. a failed drug test at the end of his career doesn't change anyone's opinion of him. except maybe VileOne's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/11/17/9748132/ufc-lawsuit-update-plaintiffs-argue-discovery-108000-documents-produced-mma-news TL;DR version: So this thing won't actually start for another two and half years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 http://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/mma-ufc/federal-trade-commission-closes-inquiry-ufc-business-practices In short, second FTC UFC/ZUFFA has been closed without further action, but they can re-open it at any time if they see fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 Mirko is the first fighter to get the USADA website failure treatment as well. He got handed a two year suspension. http://ufc.usada.org/mirko-filipovic-receives-doping-violations/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Personally saving my money for the Holly Tate and Chad McGregor shirts myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 First Kimmy Gibbler, now this. Things are going well with the Reebok deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 Jeremy Botter @jeremybotter 9m Gleison Tibau had been provisionally suspended by USADA for failing an out of competition test http://www.ufc.com/news/UFC-Statement-on-Gleison-Tibau?id= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Can't say I'm surprised. I like Tibau, but he's always had a questionable physique. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 He's not really a guy who can afford to lose 2 years of his career. For him, that's six paydays he is missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Well then you shouldn't juice. He rolled the dice on his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 Well then you shouldn't juice. He rolled the dice on his career. I am not feeling sorry for the guy. I am just saying that this is much different than a Mirko CroCop failing or someone who only fights once every blue moon. I'm stating that this is really the first big casualty of the new program in that Tibau fights a lot compared to most people on the roster. He is losing six fights and six payouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 By the way, according to his team, he failed for EPO. Tibau released a statement; I’m not used to an easy life. Since I was a kid, I have fought for everything I’ve conquered, I have overcome adversities, and I’m really proud of who I am. I face this doping news as another stone that I have to take out of my way as a professional fighter and a correct citizen. As a responsible man that I am, I never believed I ingested something that could fantasize my performances. I make sure I have a healthy life outside the sport, and honest and clean inside the sport. I train hard, I do my best. However, I can’t turn my back to a notification from USADA, an institution with credibility and a mission of stopping dirty game, doping. I will talk to my medical staff in the next days to find out where we made a mistake, and will do what we can in my trial. I fight professionally for 16 years, nine being inside the UFC, and was never in this situation. It tastes bad, like a loss inside the cage, but will be a big lesson, as experience to become more alert as an athlete of what can or can’t be done in the sport’s anti-doping policy. I’m deeply sorry for what happened. I want to apologize to everyone involved, the UFC, American Top Team, my teammates and, of course, Abel Trujillo, who I fought on Nov. 7. I’m willing to give him a rematch, if he agrees. I’ve fought and defeated athletes that failed drug tests, like Polish athlete Piotr Hallman last September, and I know how bad it feels for the opponent. I can’t forget to apologize to the fans, everyone that always supported me. I’m sure this time won’t be different, as I’m already getting messages and support through social media. Fighting MMA is what I know to do, what I’ve chosen as a professional, my income. I take full responsibility for my actions, and I believe the justice will punish if needed, but also clear me if proven. To the media, I thank the opportunity for giving me a voice in this complex moment that I’m living now, the toughest in my career. I trust in God so I can go back in action in my career in an honored way, like I always did. Gleison Tibau http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/12/4/9851752/gleison-tibau-deeply-sorry-reacts-to-usada-suspension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I wonder how many other guys might have been or are blood doping on the roster, and I wonder if it is more the smaller weight classes. Last guy who failed a drug test for EPO in the UFC was I think Bagautinov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Do posters here wear MMA clothing? I’ve two UFC Sherpa hoodies, a TapouT full zip hoodie, one UFC shirt, couple of TapouT shirts and a UFC hat. I was thinking back to my UFC Sherpa hoodies and went on the UFC shop website to have a look forgetting about the Reebok deal, clothing was better before with more choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I typically don't like MMA apparel. However, when I went to UFC 192 in my hometown of Houston, I did buy the event shirt since it was a simple design with the logo and the state of Texas on it, so I bought that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WholeFnMachine Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I wear BJJ apparel, but not MMA apparel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitlick Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I had a few Korean Zombie shirts but one ripped a hole in it and the other disappeared mysteriously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail Sabin Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I have one MMA Shirt will probably buy another at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiztor Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Do posters here wear MMA clothing? i feel like i SHOULD, but i'm just not a fan of very many of the designs. Especially in the Affliction vein. i'd rock the shit out of a plain blue tshirt with just the PRIDE logo across the front if i ever ran across one, tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I typically don't like MMA apparel. However, when I went to UFC 192 in my hometown of Houston, I did buy the event shirt since it was a simple design with the logo and the state of Texas on it, so I bought that. I wear BJJ apparel, but not MMA apparel. I had a few Korean Zombie shirts but one ripped a hole in it and the other disappeared mysteriously. I have one MMA Shirt will probably buy another at some point. Cheers lads. Here's an article about the UFC/Reebok deal: http://www.f4wonline.com/ufc-news/reebok-best-ufcs-business-203016 I agree with the points about Reebok isn't the best sporting goods brand compared to what there is out there and the designs are weak with fighters either wearing black/white, white/black or black/grey if a champion. Yesterday I was watching UFC Ultimate 100 Greatest Fights countdown for the first time in years and it reminded me of the brands: TapouT, Affliction, Xtreme Couture and how fighters had signature looks/colours. You had Chuck Liddell's blue/white, Anderson Silva's yellow/black and Rich Franklin's pink/brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I do get bored with the black/white designs, and I think fighters should have leeway for some of their own colors, designs of choice. That being said, I thought a lot of what put out there by the old apparel brands to be really loud and unappealing. With some exceptions of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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