Jump to content
DVDVR Message Board

AEW - NOVEMBER 2022

The Natural

By The Natural
in ALL ELITE WRESTLING

 Share

Recommended Posts

just drew

just drew

Posted
Posted
15 hours ago, Casey said:

Probably because Omega and the Bucks have executive vice president titles, and Punk is/was just another member of the roster (and gave them AEW’s biggest buy rate ever but anyway…)

Punk had an office job too per TK…

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Octopus

Octopus

Posted
Posted
11 minutes ago, just drew said:

Punk had an office job too per TK…

This may sound weird, but when he was listing off names, by the time he got to the office people it almost came across like him saying Punk’s name like he almost forgot to mention it in the previous group. Awkward unplanned stream of consciousness type thing. At least that’s how I heard it.

  • Like 2
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Dolphman 3000

Dolphman 3000

Posted
Posted (edited)
Quote

 

“I don’t know if it’s something that [AEW President] Tony [Khan] would want to talk about further, but the big thing for All Elite is that we want to take care of the boys,” Matt said

“So many times you hear stories from wrestlers past or legends where they don’t have anything left and there’s nothing to show for it. One thing that we’ve always wanted to do is, if we started a wrestling organization, we wanted to take care of the guys. So, that’s one thing we’re working on.

 

The Elite got health insurance for themselves then immediately stopped fighting to get it for the rest of the roster

Cody: "We should unionize"

Tony: "If I give you everything you want will you shut the fuck up"

Cody: "Ok"

 

Edited by Dolphman 3000
  • Like 1
  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
zendragon

zendragon

Posted
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Octopus said:

This may sound weird, but when he was listing off names, by the time he got to the office people it almost came across like him saying Punk’s name like he almost forgot to mention it in the previous group. Awkward unplanned stream of consciousness type thing. At least that’s how I heard it.

I wonder if it was less Punk had an office job and more he was starting to get TK's ear and that what helped feed some of this stuff

@Elsalvajeloco I haven't seen a ton of mid 90's WWF (aside from some of the bigger Bret/Shawn matches) so I glossed over M.O.M. but the act feels very "middle aged white guy watched Yo MTV raps" twice to learn about hip hop

Edited by zendragon
  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Fighting a man with a perm

Fighting a man with a perm

Posted
Posted
5 hours ago, The Natural said:

 

Please keep McGregor far, far away from AEW. Mike Tyson was bad enough, but at least he served some time for his offence, whereas Conor bribed, threatened (with help from his Kinahan pals) and used Ireland's archaic libel laws to go after his victims. To paraphrase the poster I'm quoting, "Fuck Conor McGregor!"

  • Like 6
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
The Natural

The Natural

Posted
  • Author
Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, Fighting a man with a perm said:

Please keep McGregor far, far away from AEW. Mike Tyson was bad enough, but at least he served some time for his offence, whereas Conor bribed, threatened (with help from his Kinahan pals) and used Ireland's archaic libel laws to go after his victims. To paraphrase the poster I'm quoting, "Fuck Conor McGregor!"

I'm with you as someone who is a wrestling fan and MMA fan. McGregor's not worth it. I've enjoyed his recent MMA beatings.

Edited by The Natural
  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Goitre

Goitre

Posted
Posted
14 hours ago, zendragon said:

For a long time Rap/Black culture was treated very disrespectfully.

I read somewhere that Vince would take potent figures of black masculinity - Kamala (warrior), Godfather (pimp), even Papa Shango (voodoo sorcerer) - and disempower them by turning them into cartoons. I'd argue taking real bad-ass footballer Ron Simmons and turning him into baby-blue Faarooq was a similar thing.

  • Like 7
Link to comment
Share on other sites
LF2

LF2

Posted
Posted
49 minutes ago, Goitre said:

I read somewhere that Vince would take potent figures of black masculinity - Kamala (warrior), Godfather (pimp), even Papa Shango (voodoo sorcerer) - and disempower them by turning them into cartoons. I'd argue taking real bad-ass footballer Ron Simmons and turning him into baby-blue Faarooq was a similar thing.

The only one I’ll give him a pass on is Godfather. It’s kind of hard to have him be a more authentic pimp when you’re trying to keep advertisers happy. Plus I’d swear Charles Wright said somewhere how much fun he had with that gimmick. Here’s a link that shows who came up with the gimmick (not Vince), and him saying he loves it:

https://wrestlingheadlines.com/charles-wright-shares-who-came-up-with-the-godfather-gimmick/

  • Like 8
Link to comment
Share on other sites
zendragon

zendragon

Posted
Posted

 

May be an image of 3 people and beard

A lone soul at night sits and bays at the moon
Though sometimes he's a man it's a Pentagram
Shogun blasts as he runs with the wind
But he just can't win it's the Pentagram
And now don't know how but it's happening to me
Got the love from above but it's happening to me
Black cloud hang and it just won't leave
Though be tries to believe it's a Pentagram
Hard to conceive and he wants to perceive
But he's destined to grieve it's the Pentagram
Now don't know but it's happening to me
Got the love from above but it's happening to me
I can't turn back now
Stories unfold but they've all been told
When he sold his soul to the Pentagram
And to end his life though the silver is old
He will reach his goal by the Pentagram
And now don't know how but it's happening to me
Got the love from above but it's happening to me
Tell me one more time
It's alright
I can't turn back now
Cause it's the sign of the wolf
May be an image of 5 people and people standing
  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Shartnado

Shartnado

Posted
Posted (edited)
On 11/24/2022 at 4:45 AM, odessasteps said:

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. 

Insurance companies that are willing to give pro wrestlers health insurance?

Or squashing union-aspirations by the boys?

Edit. Reading back the thread, this could have also been about mishandling of black characters in pro wrestling, as well. Point stands, on each of these, nevermind which one it was actually referring to...

Side note, as someone from Nordic countries, it is really peculiar to see how even the concept of a union is viewed by many in the US. Basically, like they are part of organized crime, or something? Or is that the case, over there? There's probably more being done to help squash unions than there is to bring down drug cartels. At least it seems that way.

Edited by Shartnado
I might have missed the actual point, there...
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Dolphman 3000

Dolphman 3000

Posted
Posted (edited)
43 minutes ago, Shartnado said:

Side note, as someone from Nordic countries, it is really peculiar to see how even the concept of a union is viewed by many in the US. Basically, like they are part of organized crime, or something? Or is that the case, over there? There's probably more being done to help squash unions than there is to bring down drug cartels. At least it seems that way.

Socialists and Communists organized labor following the Great Depression, so Big Business said "never again" and has been using the media and corrupt politicians to pound into American's heads that Socialism and Communism is bad, and therefore unions are anti-American

Americans are very dumb people who accept terrible living conditions because that's what they've been taught for generations through Capital's gaslighting ("good things should cost money, and if you want good things you should work harder")

Edited by Dolphman 3000
  • Like 5
  • Thanks 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Shartnado

Shartnado

Posted
Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, Dolphman 3000 said:

Socialists and Communists organized labor following the Great Depression, so Big Business said "never again" and has been using the media and corrupt politicians to pound into American's heads that Socialism and Communism is bad, and therefore unions are anti-American

Americans are very dumb people who accept terrible living conditions because that's what they've been taught for generations through Capital's gaslighting ("good things should cost money, and if you want good things you should work harder")

This is pretty much exactly how it seems from over here. I feel bad for you guys. Our strong union tradition has a lot to do with trying to live next to F'n Soviet Union and them constantly spreading propaganda over to the workers. So our society had to create something that works reasonably well for the largest number of people possible. It worked out very well until at least the 70's and despite its problems, our social democracy is a pretty humane way of handling things, all things considered.

Now back to wrestling...

Edited by Shartnado
Added extra information about Finland
  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Zakk_Sabbath

Zakk_Sabbath

Posted
Posted

We're not dumb, so much as we have literally no choice - the greed is out of control. I was talking with a (I believe) German or Dutch guy in line at Grand Slam and trying to explain the concept of health insurance here, and his mind was pretty blown by the whole thing. I won't get into it here but if I ever re-install discord, I'll polish off the ol' soapbox.

  • Like 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
 Share
Go to topic listing
×
×
  • Create New...