just drew Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 15 hours ago, Casey said: Probably because Omega and the Bucks have executive vice president titles, and Punk is/was just another member of the roster (and gave them AEW’s biggest buy rate ever but anyway…) Punk had an office job too per TK… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octopus Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, just drew said: Punk had an office job too per TK… This may sound weird, but when he was listing off names, by the time he got to the office people it almost came across like him saying Punk’s name like he almost forgot to mention it in the previous group. Awkward unplanned stream of consciousness type thing. At least that’s how I heard it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just drew Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 No, that makes sense. I figured if Punk had an office job it was one of those Tony Soprano “no show” jobs so Punk could have health insurance. That SAG shit is expensive, I hear… 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphman 3000 Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 (edited) Quote “I don’t know if it’s something that [AEW President] Tony [Khan] would want to talk about further, but the big thing for All Elite is that we want to take care of the boys,” Matt said “So many times you hear stories from wrestlers past or legends where they don’t have anything left and there’s nothing to show for it. One thing that we’ve always wanted to do is, if we started a wrestling organization, we wanted to take care of the guys. So, that’s one thing we’re working on. The Elite got health insurance for themselves then immediately stopped fighting to get it for the rest of the roster Cody: "We should unionize" Tony: "If I give you everything you want will you shut the fuck up" Cody: "Ok" Edited November 24, 2022 by Dolphman 3000 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zendragon Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Octopus said: This may sound weird, but when he was listing off names, by the time he got to the office people it almost came across like him saying Punk’s name like he almost forgot to mention it in the previous group. Awkward unplanned stream of consciousness type thing. At least that’s how I heard it. I wonder if it was less Punk had an office job and more he was starting to get TK's ear and that what helped feed some of this stuff @Elsalvajeloco I haven't seen a ton of mid 90's WWF (aside from some of the bigger Bret/Shawn matches) so I glossed over M.O.M. but the act feels very "middle aged white guy watched Yo MTV raps" twice to learn about hip hop Edited November 24, 2022 by zendragon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fighting a man with a perm Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 5 hours ago, The Natural said: Please keep McGregor far, far away from AEW. Mike Tyson was bad enough, but at least he served some time for his offence, whereas Conor bribed, threatened (with help from his Kinahan pals) and used Ireland's archaic libel laws to go after his victims. To paraphrase the poster I'm quoting, "Fuck Conor McGregor!" 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 24, 2022 Author Share Posted November 24, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Fighting a man with a perm said: Please keep McGregor far, far away from AEW. Mike Tyson was bad enough, but at least he served some time for his offence, whereas Conor bribed, threatened (with help from his Kinahan pals) and used Ireland's archaic libel laws to go after his victims. To paraphrase the poster I'm quoting, "Fuck Conor McGregor!" I'm with you as someone who is a wrestling fan and MMA fan. McGregor's not worth it. I've enjoyed his recent MMA beatings. Edited November 24, 2022 by The Natural 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 24, 2022 Author Share Posted November 24, 2022 Our late missed friend, @OSJ had no time for Conor either. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goitre Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 14 hours ago, zendragon said: For a long time Rap/Black culture was treated very disrespectfully. I read somewhere that Vince would take potent figures of black masculinity - Kamala (warrior), Godfather (pimp), even Papa Shango (voodoo sorcerer) - and disempower them by turning them into cartoons. I'd argue taking real bad-ass footballer Ron Simmons and turning him into baby-blue Faarooq was a similar thing. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LF2 Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 49 minutes ago, Goitre said: I read somewhere that Vince would take potent figures of black masculinity - Kamala (warrior), Godfather (pimp), even Papa Shango (voodoo sorcerer) - and disempower them by turning them into cartoons. I'd argue taking real bad-ass footballer Ron Simmons and turning him into baby-blue Faarooq was a similar thing. The only one I’ll give him a pass on is Godfather. It’s kind of hard to have him be a more authentic pimp when you’re trying to keep advertisers happy. Plus I’d swear Charles Wright said somewhere how much fun he had with that gimmick. Here’s a link that shows who came up with the gimmick (not Vince), and him saying he loves it: https://wrestlingheadlines.com/charles-wright-shares-who-came-up-with-the-godfather-gimmick/ 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 24, 2022 Author Share Posted November 24, 2022 Silver breaking Anna still makes me laugh. Miss these Dark Order skits especially with the late great Mr. Brodie Lee. Happy Thanksgiving y'all xxx. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Bowens just tweeted that Dante's fine after the scare last night during the Rampage tapings. Big relief there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zendragon Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 A lone soul at night sits and bays at the moon Though sometimes he's a man it's a Pentagram Shogun blasts as he runs with the wind But he just can't win it's the Pentagram And now don't know how but it's happening to me Got the love from above but it's happening to me Black cloud hang and it just won't leave Though be tries to believe it's a Pentagram Hard to conceive and he wants to perceive But he's destined to grieve it's the Pentagram Now don't know but it's happening to me Got the love from above but it's happening to me I can't turn back now Stories unfold but they've all been told When he sold his soul to the Pentagram And to end his life though the silver is old He will reach his goal by the Pentagram And now don't know how but it's happening to me Got the love from above but it's happening to me Tell me one more time It's alright I can't turn back now Cause it's the sign of the wolf 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Natural Posted November 25, 2022 Author Share Posted November 25, 2022 Still remember this promo by Samoa Joe, THAT line and Randy Orton's reaction to it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted November 25, 2022 Author Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, The Natural said: Still remember this promo by Samoa Joe, THAT line and Randy Orton's reaction to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) On 11/24/2022 at 4:45 AM, odessasteps said: Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Insurance companies that are willing to give pro wrestlers health insurance? Or squashing union-aspirations by the boys? Edit. Reading back the thread, this could have also been about mishandling of black characters in pro wrestling, as well. Point stands, on each of these, nevermind which one it was actually referring to... Side note, as someone from Nordic countries, it is really peculiar to see how even the concept of a union is viewed by many in the US. Basically, like they are part of organized crime, or something? Or is that the case, over there? There's probably more being done to help squash unions than there is to bring down drug cartels. At least it seems that way. Edited November 25, 2022 by Shartnado I might have missed the actual point, there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphman 3000 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Shartnado said: Side note, as someone from Nordic countries, it is really peculiar to see how even the concept of a union is viewed by many in the US. Basically, like they are part of organized crime, or something? Or is that the case, over there? There's probably more being done to help squash unions than there is to bring down drug cartels. At least it seems that way. Socialists and Communists organized labor following the Great Depression, so Big Business said "never again" and has been using the media and corrupt politicians to pound into American's heads that Socialism and Communism is bad, and therefore unions are anti-American Americans are very dumb people who accept terrible living conditions because that's what they've been taught for generations through Capital's gaslighting ("good things should cost money, and if you want good things you should work harder") Edited November 25, 2022 by Dolphman 3000 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shartnado Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Dolphman 3000 said: Socialists and Communists organized labor following the Great Depression, so Big Business said "never again" and has been using the media and corrupt politicians to pound into American's heads that Socialism and Communism is bad, and therefore unions are anti-American Americans are very dumb people who accept terrible living conditions because that's what they've been taught for generations through Capital's gaslighting ("good things should cost money, and if you want good things you should work harder") This is pretty much exactly how it seems from over here. I feel bad for you guys. Our strong union tradition has a lot to do with trying to live next to F'n Soviet Union and them constantly spreading propaganda over to the workers. So our society had to create something that works reasonably well for the largest number of people possible. It worked out very well until at least the 70's and despite its problems, our social democracy is a pretty humane way of handling things, all things considered. Now back to wrestling... Edited November 25, 2022 by Shartnado Added extra information about Finland 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakk_Sabbath Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 We're not dumb, so much as we have literally no choice - the greed is out of control. I was talking with a (I believe) German or Dutch guy in line at Grand Slam and trying to explain the concept of health insurance here, and his mind was pretty blown by the whole thing. I won't get into it here but if I ever re-install discord, I'll polish off the ol' soapbox. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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