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It all comes back around to the discussion, Do already fucked up people gravitate towards wrestling or does wrestling take seemingly normal people and fuck them up?

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You gotta come pre-fucked, at least you used to. But it'll warp anyone.

Sander looked way worse under the camera lights insofar as his skin looked like a desert landscape. I guess being able to drink 45 Long Islands in a sitting will do that to one's complexion.

Is a superplex really the equivalent of a 30 MPH car wreck on the human body like he said?

 

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Went back and watched the Sandman crucifixion angle last night.  I haven’r seen or thought about it since the early 2000’s and I take my faith much more seriously now than I probably did back then. Eh, still not offended. It’s tasteless and deliberately provocative, but there’s no intent to piss off Catholics, per se. They were trying to be edgy and shock viewers in general.  I doubt anyone closely involved was devout - Stevie Richard’s & Blue Meanie are Catholic & Richard’s was unhappy with the angle, but they didn’t have creative control & apparently didn’t know what was going to happen until it did - so meh. Paul E. tried about 100 ways to generate controversy.  This is no worse than some of the other things he pulled. I think it’s tasteless & low class, but I don’t feel outraged.  I do wonder if I’d feel different my middle-aged self saw it fresh 20 years ago. I’m a more serious Catholic than I was then, and society has managed to push the envelope a lot further on the past 20+ years. I’ll save my anger for people trying to launch serious attacks on my faith. Sadly, Joe Biden has done a lot more to mock my faith than Paul E. ever has.

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He was holding out for that big payday before he started bumping through glass and destroying his body. 

What stuck out to me instead of the crucifixion was the crowd getting quiet for the "I worship Raven now" moment. You could look at their faces and some of them were just shocked. And where I thought it was goofy before, now I looked at it like these people might've come from broken homes or lost their kids and it could have hit them real low. I mean this is a scumbag Philly crowd we're talking about here, probably not a whole lot of stable families there.

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Presumably, had Angle not been awful as a TV sports anchor, he would not have gone into wrestling. Maybe UFC/MMA once it was “cleaned up”. Or he’d have taken the Yen to fight in Pride. 

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The crucifixion angle was two decades after Life of Brian, which I assume was considered to be mainstream and accepted by the mid 90ies in the US as well (96 was about the time I first saw the movie, it was on an Austrian public television station and there were zero issues airing a movie like that at that point). So I would assume that of the things Heyman (ECW) did that was pretty low on the list of stuff that could have finished the company for good.

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I think there are always issues in the US when you religion and art. It's prob gotten worse as the evangelical right gained more power. Even in 2004 (?) When Mel Gibson made Passion, there were issues. Same with Scorsese in 1988. I recall people complaining about Kevin Smiths Dogma. 

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It's too bad Raven didn't give up the gem he did on the Forever Hardcore DVD: the boys in the locker room said "Hey, you and Paul E. are Jewish, why don't you nail him to a Star of David" and Raven responded "yeah we do that and he'd roll away" 😄

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2 hours ago, Curt McGirt said:

I'm surprised. Why wouldn't they interview him? If Bischoff is even cool with him now and didn't have some kind of "I won't interview if he's on it" veto, then...?

I could see him not wanting to work with Dark Side people after the Plane Ride episode. 

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2 hours ago, Stefanie Sparkleface said:

It's fairly common amongst folks his age. My father does the same thing.

How does it happen? Do they intentionally hit shift+the first letter of each word? Is it some weird setting? I’m truly baffled. 

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3 hours ago, Curt McGirt said:

I'm surprised. Why wouldn't they interview him?

You mean why would (some of) the people who did a TV ep about the time Flair did a sexual assault not want to work with him? I would take a guess that they believed his accuser.

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10 minutes ago, Log said:

How does it happen? Do they intentionally hit shift+the first letter of each word? Is it some weird setting? I’m truly baffled. 

Yes. When he worked, that was how he wrote his citations, even when using pen and paper (he was in building code enforcement). It's called title casing.

As for why someone would do that if they aren't writing headlines for a living, beats the heck out of me.

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29 minutes ago, username said:

You mean why would (some of) the people who did a TV ep about the time Flair did a sexual assault not want to work with him? I would take a guess that they believed his accuser.

Okay, okay. I forgot about the damn episode. And I believe her, and would do the same as them. 

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