Ace Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Captain America: The Winter Soldier would like to remind you about Scarlett Johannsen's ass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Those fingerless gloves are killing me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Hanger Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 They do seem pretty spectacularly unsuited for Cap's particular combat style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 That's because this is the alternate timeline Cap:Â Randy Couture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 There is a one word answer that is incredibly obvious from the script and RDJ's performance:Â "Hubris" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 My problem with Iron Man 3 isn't that they fucked up The Mandarin, i don't care enough about the character to know that, and i doubt the majority of the people watching the film do either. My problem is the film they showed in the trailer and all the hype leading up to the film, the film that looked interesting and different to the past 2 Iron Man films, wasn't the film we got. We got 90 mins of bait, then a twist that takes you completely out of the film, and 40 mins of the same boring evil business man from the past 2 films.  I can see what they were going for, could have been good but they didn't pull it off, Terrible film.  Yeah. Basically this. I don't care that the movie Mandarin is different from the comics Mandarin.  I also don't care that they pulled a bait and switch. I care that the Mandarin they initially presented is far more interesting than the result of the bait and switch and that the tone of the movie went from hopeless and menacing to 'every other Iron Man movie to this point' really quick after the reveal went down.  As everyone else said, the problem wasn't the reveal. The problem was Killian.  I feel the same way about The Mandarin reveal. I wanted more Sir. Ben Kingsley's Mandarin from the trailers and before the reveal in the film. I liked it all: the look, the lessons and the voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 But then Osama Bin Laden is real and that's not as interesting as all the conspiracy theories and stuff . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013  My problem with Iron Man 3 isn't that they fucked up The Mandarin, i don't care enough about the character to know that, and i doubt the majority of the people watching the film do either. My problem is the film they showed in the trailer and all the hype leading up to the film, the film that looked interesting and different to the past 2 Iron Man films, wasn't the film we got. We got 90 mins of bait, then a twist that takes you completely out of the film, and 40 mins of the same boring evil business man from the past 2 films.  I can see what they were going for, could have been good but they didn't pull it off, Terrible film.  Yeah. Basically this. I don't care that the movie Mandarin is different from the comics Mandarin.  I also don't care that they pulled a bait and switch. I care that the Mandarin they initially presented is far more interesting than the result of the bait and switch and that the tone of the movie went from hopeless and menacing to 'every other Iron Man movie to this point' really quick after the reveal went down.  As everyone else said, the problem wasn't the reveal. The problem was Killian.  I feel the same way about The Mandarin reveal. I wanted more Sir. Ben Kingsley's Mandarin from the trailers and before the reveal in the film. I liked it all: the look, the lessons and the voice.  That is basically it. If they had provided a better villain than the fake Mandarin, it would have worked. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antacular Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 So what type of villain should Iron Man be up against? I'll admit to have limited knowledge of his rogues gallery, but as I've said before: How do you make a credible threat for a guy who's powers include flight, near invulnerability, super genius intellect, and lasers? It's not like Spider-Man or Batman that who are vulnerable to any assortment of attacks. When you make a superhero as powerful as Iron Man/Hulk/Superman, their rogues gallery by definition are going to be extremely limited and/or not very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Just let Mandarin use his rings and shit. Or a Dragon or a giant robot, anything but another guy in armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antacular Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 As I said before, I don't think in 2013 an Asian mystic with Bloomingdales merch would've gone over well with audiences. And isn't the Giant Robot being used for Avengers 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 How are alien rings "Bloomingdales merch"? and the Asian mystic is what drew audiences to theaters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Fin Fang Foom would have made for some spectacular visuals. You can't tell me a big alien dragon wouldn't have been a hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antacular Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 No, RDJ is what drew the audience to theaters. He could've gone up against Toad from X-Men and it would've made the same amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 The problem with comics Iron Man is that he's got a shit rouges gallery. It's all either corporate guys in suits, or c-list idiots like Whiplash. They hit a home run with the movies because, like Blade, there's not much to the character outside the look. RDJ is almost the polar opposite of Tony from the comics, but it works because Tony in the comics is a vapid shell  ETA: I say this as a longtime fan of the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 RDJ and Stark from the comics have been the same person for years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Since the 1st movie came out, sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 At. Least they used to have cool costumes: Blizzard, Melter, Living Laser, Unicorn, Spymaster, Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 No, RDJ is what drew the audience to theaters. He could've gone up against Toad from X-Men and it would've made the same amount. So they could have used Mandarin without changing anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antacular Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 As far as the box office is concerned? Yes. As far as making a villain that the general audience won't shit upon after the fact? Unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 The one they used has been shit on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antacular Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Everyone I know who doesn't post on the interwebz really liked IM3, and that seems to be the general consensus as per RT and IMDB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niners Fan in CT Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Everyone I know who doesn't post on the interwebz really liked IM3, and that seems to be the general consensus as per RT and IMDB. Â The same can be said about Man of Steel but we have a few people here who thought it was terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antacular Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Including myself for MoS and same regarding Captain America. But in my defense, I believe both of those were as good as a film you could get for the characters, whereas the IM3 hate is all about how it could've been better, when it was fine as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Man of Steel got terrible reviews didn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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