NFL 2023 - WEEK SIXTEEN

[worldcupfever]

On 12/24/2023 at 2:25 PM, dogwelder said:

When my brother texted me that Howell's rating was 9.8, I replied, "at least it can't get any lower".

[Kuetsar]

Josh has FORTY TD's!  And not that many more Int's than everyone else.  He's the MVP, whether or not he wins it. . .

[Cobra Commander]

On 12/24/2023 at 2:25 PM, dogwelder said:

The fun part is there is a ton of Bieniemy nostalgia in KC because of how the Chiefs offense has done in 2023

[dogwelder]

8 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said:

The fun part is there is a ton of Bieniemy nostalgia in KC because of how the Chiefs offense has done in 2023

Well that's the thing, though.  Everyone was blaming Bieniemy early on for how Howell was seemingly under performing in some games, but then you see how Brissett performs in the same offense and you start to wonder...

[supremebve]

45 minutes ago, Kuetsar said:

Josh has FORTY TD's!  And not that many more Int's than everyone else.  He's the MVP, whether or not he wins it. . .

Honestly, if they're going to give it to a quarterback,  which they will,  it should be either Josh Allen or Dak Prescott. Tua and Purdy are supplementary pieces,  Lamar is coasting towards a #1 seed,  and almost everyone else is injured. Allen and Prescott are the only two who's teams have lived and died based on their performance and they have played at an MVP level. 

[Infinit]

4 hours ago, Gorman said:

I am surprised that neither Dave Logan, Reggie Rucker (Sipe years), Webster Slaughter nor Reggie Langhorne (Kosar years) pulled off that feat.  

Wait...who has the "old Browns" history? The current Browns or the Ravens?

[hammerva]

I would assume that the Browns have it because when the Ravens were created they didn't really want it even though they couldn't use the Baltimore Colts history 

[Gorman]

1 hour ago, Infinit said:

Wait...who has the "old Browns" history? The current Browns or the Ravens?

There's your answer. If the new team were called the Ohioans, that might be different.

If the Baltimore team had called themselves the Browns, that would definitely be different. Of course, the Baltimore baseball team didn't keep the Browns name, either.

But the new team that started in 1999 deliberately called themselves the Browns and kept the colors, the history, and even recently the old elf. 

[Brian Fowler]

Yeah the NFL basically insists that the Ravens were an expansion team and the Browns just took a few years off. It makes absolutely no sense, drives me insane, but that's what they do. Then have fun untangling who has what history between the pelicans and hornets in the NBA.