EVA Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 A&M has retained the law firm that handled the Cam Newton situation for Auburn, so the odds are pretty strong that Manziel will play this year. Those guys are the world champions of bending over the NCAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 A&M has retained the law firm that handled the Cam Newton situation for Auburn, so the odds are pretty strong that Manziel will play this year. Those guys are the world champions of bending over the NCAA. I really wish I could find a clip with the quote alone, but this will do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=URal9iNnm9Y&t=47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Fansided/Reddit researched one of the brokers Ebay accounts and found some other interesting names tied to merchandise being sold by one of the brokers: Jedeveon Clowney, Amari Cooper, and TJ Yeldon. This continues the trend of "where there is a scandal in Southeastern Football, an Alabama presence can be found in some form or fashion." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Also a continuing trend in college football: "Where there is a crystal football, an Alabama presence can be found in some form or fashion." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Alabama's o-line last year was virtually a pro team o-line and they mostly just mauled anyone they came in contact with, if they can maintain that for any length of time they are always going to be the team to avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Only way too beat a fully loaded Saban team is to successfully freelance in mid-play on offense, and survive on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Random question about NCAA rules. Would it be a retroactive penalty/issue if any big name player signed a bunch of stuff and said pay me x number after I declare for the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Yeah, deferred compensation is also a violation. It's ALSO a violation if you sign stuff, don't take money, but know that the person you're signing for intends to sell it or use it for promotional purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Yeah, deferred compensation is also a violation.It's ALSO a violation if you sign stuff, don't take money, but know that the person you're signing for intends to sell it or use it for promotional purposes.I will assume there is clause the exempts schools from the latter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Nope. Schools still have to vacate wins if a player participates while ineligible due to signing stuff for others to sell or promotional purposes. It's just a much harder case for the NCAA to prove, and they have a hard enough time nailing people when they have solid evidence of money changing hands. Usually in those situations, they'll take whatever the school is willing to give (typically re-education for the player, cease-and-desist/disassociation for the seller/promoter, maybe one of those classic Monday ineligible/Tuesday reinstated deals) and call it case closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Nope. Schools still have to vacate wins if a player participates while ineligible due to signing stuff for others to sell or promotional purposes. It's just a much harder case for the NCAA to prove, and they have a hard enough time nailing people when they have solid evidence of money changing hands. Usually in those situations, they'll take whatever the school is willing to give (typically re-education for the player, cease-and-desist/disassociation for the seller/promoter, maybe one of those classic Monday ineligible/Tuesday reinstated deals) and call it case closed. Actually I was meaning if the school has Johnny sign a football that is then sold at a football event wouldn't that mean likely ever major school is in violation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Oh, yeah. OF COURSE! That's totally okay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 If you didn't catch OTL you should. I'm pretty sure if Jay Billis was 20 years younger head be leading an athlete revolt against the NCAA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Mann Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 You have no idea how much this pains me to point this out, but it turns out The Boz was 25 years ahead of his time: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 The Deadspin on Johnny Manziel's family is great reading. Cockfighting, drilling for oil on church property, the works. http://deadspin.com/the-long-con-how-the-manziels-conquered-america-1040593220?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow Oh, and Johnny Football is now being accused of signing over 4400 items. Egads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 The Deadspin on Johnny Manziel's family is great reading. Cockfighting, drilling for oil on church property, the works. http://deadspin.com/the-long-con-how-the-manziels-conquered-america-1040593220?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow Oh, and Johnny Football is now being accused of signing over 4400 items. Egads. Reading the article, I loved that his great-grandfather actually FIXED a pro wrestling match. Is nothing sacred anymore??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 OF COURSE they're showing him wearing a Miami Heat cap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy LaRue Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 OF COURSE they're showing him wearing a Miami Heat cap. Heavy is the head that wears the crown. You've got to claim all the baggage that comes with it. Chin up, buddy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Random question about NCAA rules. Would it be a retroactive penalty/issue if any big name player signed a bunch of stuff and said pay me x number after I declare for the NFL? Yeah, deferred compensation is also a violation.It's ALSO a violation if you sign stuff, don't take money, but know that the person you're signing for intends to sell it or use it for promotional purposes. That's some WEAPONS GRADE BULLSHIT right there. . They ought to allow athletes to be able to put money into a blind trust and then withdraw a small amount for living expenses(the proverbial pizza on a saturday night) and have access to it after they leave school/graduate. Granted it probably would turn to slush funds right quick, but there needs to be some way of compensating these guys for image use without it turning into a Title IX or fairness issue. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 The thing is Title IX can't prevent anything all it does is grant access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Man, I just hope whatever does go down with Johnny doesn't until after the season when he's already turned pro. Because I want to see him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Man, I just hope whatever does go down with Johnny doesn't until after the season when he's already turned pro. Because I want to see him play.Me to but I'm an Aggie fan so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVA Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 He'll play. They'll take the same course of action Auburn did with Cam Newton: Play him until the NCAA says you can't anymore. When you've got a once-in-a-lifetime player and a shot to win it all, you let it ride. And this case is so big, there's no way the NCAA will have a ruling on it until after the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 The thing is Title IX can't prevent anything all it does is grant access. Yeah,but if say, Bowl division football paid players, the lawsuit from the women would seconds later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhammedboehm Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 The thing is Title IX can't prevent anything all it does is grant access.Yeah,but if say, Bowl division football paid players, the lawsuit from the women would seconds later.Which is why you don't pay them but you let them profit off there names and likeness just as much as the NCAA and School are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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