December 2023 Wrestling Talk

[Dolfan in NYC]

 

[BloodyChamp]

Can Bret Hart say or do anything that doesn’t just make you think he’s the sweetest nicest old man?

https://youtube.com/shorts/0C4btWY3eyU?si=2Bsg7sEyxKO8pxj4

[Zakk_Sabbath]

1 hour ago, BloodyChamp said:

Can Bret Hart say or do anything that doesn’t just make you think he’s the sweetest nicest old man?

https://youtube.com/shorts/0C4btWY3eyU?si=2Bsg7sEyxKO8pxj4

This is the best, man. In case you're unaware, this video was sort of the culmination of this novelty Twitter account:

https://x.com/GoldbergHart?s=20

 

[odessasteps]

1 hour ago, BloodyChamp said:

Can Bret Hart say or do anything that doesn’t just make you think he’s the sweetest nicest old man?

https://youtube.com/shorts/0C4btWY3eyU?si=2Bsg7sEyxKO8pxj4

Plenty, but I’ve never been a Bret guy. 

[BloodyChamp]

3 hours ago, Zakk_Sabbath said:

This is the best, man. In case you're unaware, this video was sort of the culmination of this novelty Twitter account:

https://x.com/GoldbergHart?s=20

 

I’m 100% unaware but I’ll check it out later for sure. I’ve watched that above thing as many times as I’ve watched something like a funny gif and he just reminds me of my oldest grandfather in that clip. He’s just sitting there like he’s waiting on a youngun to come along to bounce on his knee and nothing can make him straight mad no matter how grumpy he really is lol!

 

 

Edited December 1, 2023 by BloodyChamp

[Cobra Commander]

two random notes from watching parts of a 1982 Championship Wrestling from Florida episode last night

1) having Magnum TA and Jake Roberts on screen at the same time is certainly putting two dudes with similar facial stylings on screen at the same time

2) not entirely sure if Jake putting Barry Windham through a wooden ringside barrier with a running kneelift can be exactly reproduced these days. Both because of a difference in what's around ringside and it being awhile since kneelifts were used as a finish (but if they could get the Shining Wizard over, then it's not impossible to get a million dollar kneelift over)

the kneelift in question is at the end of this video, witness the glory of Barry Windham when he had metabolism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUYpHnQBAVE

[Curt McGirt]

Hey, since you guys were talking Ultramantis Black in the other thread, which one of you on here used to have that gif of him and his boy grooving out? I don't know who the other guy was but that gif always cracked me up (can't find it now). 

[odessasteps]

Does this count? 

 

[BloodyChamp]

Aw fooey Twitter. I left that heap a long time ago but that definitely looks hilarious. 

[Curt McGirt]

Ultramantis wearing an Ebullition Records shirt is 10,000 bonus points! Also, I never realized that Hydra is, like post-shower, barefoot and wearing a towel. 

[Cobra Commander]

one more Florida thing.. for anybody unsure of the path ladder matches took from Stampede to the WWF.. Florida was advertising a ladder match between Butch Reed and Big John Studd with $10K suspended above the ring (you see, Big John Studd did the bodyslam challenge gimmick everywhere and after Reed slammed him, Studd stole the money from Reed's friend Sweet Brown Sugar)

Big John Studd cutting a promo about not being made to go up ladders is a real "yeah no kidding" revelation.

[Curt McGirt]

Those two were so tall they probably didn't need the ladder.

[Cobra Commander]

update from December 1981 Florida:

JJ Dillon looking like he talks to the customers so that the engineers don't have to.

I thought JJ was slumming it a tad in JCP before he dropped all his randos and went in with the Horsemen. But it's possible that JJ has like a 5 year progression where he went from looking like a dumpy office worker who steals from his employer to looking like a corrupt elected official.

In other words, that mustache.. I'm hoping that was merely a short-term thing.

[Curt McGirt]

I don't think he had it in that dirt-ancient Central States footage that showed up on here recently with that WAR-if-it-was-the-'70s lineup. It was bizarre seeing him wrestling. 

[Cobra Commander]

it's possible that Central States didn't make enough money to just have a manager who didn't wrestle in 1981 (I know the stories Cornette had about potentially going to KC from Memphis if not for Mid-South mentioned a preference for managers who could wrestle too)

looking at WrestlingData and he had only just returned to Florida for the first time in years late in 1981, so this early JJ look is the look of a manager who steals money from his wrestlers to buy cigarettes..

looking at an April 1982 Florida episode, JJ still has a mustache, but he has dyed his hair lighter and he switched from a collared shirt/tie to a bowtie/jacket.. so somebody's making more money!

[odessasteps]

If I remember the story he told recently, JC said he talked to Buck Robley about KC and Buck was only making $x (maybe $300-500) booking and wrestling in KC in 1983. 

[zendragon]

11 hours ago, Cobra Commander said:

two random notes from watching parts of a 1982 Championship Wrestling from Florida episode last night

1) having Magnum TA and Jake Roberts on screen at the same time is certainly putting two dudes with similar facial stylings on screen at the same time

2) not entirely sure if Jake putting Barry Windham through a wooden ringside barrier with a running kneelift can be exactly reproduced these days. Both because of a difference in what's around ringside and it being awhile since kneelifts were used as a finish (but if they could get the Shining Wizard over, then it's not impossible to get a million dollar kneelift over)

the kneelift in question is at the end of this video, witness the glory of Barry Windham when he had metabolism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUYpHnQBAVE

Kenny Omega with the V trigger!

[COLETTI]

4 hours ago, zendragon said:

Kenny Omega with the V trigger!

Not to mention Regal's "knee trembler" (still can't get over him using that name ). 

[The Natural]

12 minutes ago, Coletti said:

Not to mention Regal's "knee trembler" (still can't get over him using that name ). 

Settle down, Collettietico ;).

[The Natural]

13 minutes ago, Coletti said:

Not to mention Regal's "knee trembler" (still can't get over him using that name ). 

[Curt McGirt]

I know what it means, but there's probably some Blackpool carny slang for something else that goes by that too. Some dude working a ferris wheel with a special stick carved with notches on it. 

[S.K.o.S.]

New wrestling crossword!  Hey, the tweet embedded properly, look at that.

 

[Cobra Commander]

Random note: fortunately Vince Russo wasn’t so cultured that he knew of the “name Cockburn is pronounced Coburn” thing so that some WWF wrestler in 1998 would have to keep telling people his name isn’t pronounced Peter Cockburn but Peter Coburn.

edit: that would be the name of a porn star who is a mortal enemy of Val Venis

Edited December 2, 2023 by Cobra Commander

[odessasteps]

I saw some old 70s result recently where a wrestler was using the “Rooster Coburn” gimmick name. 

[twiztor]

23 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said:

that would be the name of a porn star who is a mortal enemy of Val Venis

19 minutes ago, odessasteps said:

I saw some old 70s .....

i got very worried on where this was going when i was reading this one-two punch of comments.