Dolfan in NYC Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 ย MAKE MY WISH COME TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUE...ย BABY ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS ISSSSSSSSSSS....ย ย A thread that doesn't get derailed based on topics that we do *not* need to be discussing here.ย ย Don't get baited!ย ย Just use the "Ignore User" feature!ย ย 17
Octopus Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 Rampage gets 2 hours and a better time spot, CM Punk says heโll stay as long as him and the Elite are on separate โBrandsโ, Tony Kahn hires โYOUโ to separate the roster in half. This includes wrestlers, managers, referees, and color commentators.ย Who you got on Dynamite and who you got on Rampage? 3
Dolphman 3000 Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Octopus said: Rampage gets 2 hours and a better time spot, CM Punk says heโll stay as long as him and the Elite are on separate โBrandsโ, Tony Kahn hires โYOUโ to separate the roster in half. This includes wrestlers, managers, referees, and color commentators.ย Who you got on Dynamite and who you got on Rampage? Rampage Punk, Hook, Claudio, Danielson, Joe, The Acclaimed, FTR, Sammy Guevara, Athena, Wardlow, Swerve, Eddie Kingston, Darby, Moxley, Blade, Bandido, Jamie Hayter, Sasha Banks Commentary: Excalibur and Taz Dynamite Bucks, Omega, Death Triangle, House of Black, Hangman, Adam Cole, The Kingdom, Maria, Brit Baker, Shida, MJF, Orange Cassidy, Jungle Boy, Dante Martin Commentary: Excalibur and Chris Jericho Edited December 13, 2022 by Dolphman 3000 2
John from Cincinnati Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 Based on seeing Malakai and Punk in multiple (2) pictures and him coming in as part of Cody's stuff rather than the Elite's, I hereby draft the House of Black for the Punk show.ย 4
porksweats Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Octopus said: Rampage gets 2 hours and a better time spot, CM Punk says heโll stay as long as him and the Elite are on separate โBrandsโ, Tony Kahn hires โYOUโ to separate the roster in half. This includes wrestlers, managers, referees, and color commentators.ย Who you got on Dynamite and who you got on Rampage? I'm assuming this is a clear separation of ROH as well. Dynamite is the Elite Brand, Punk gets Rampage. When it comes to title belts, there'd be no brand exclusive title except for the respective Network titles. Jade Cargill is on Dynamite, and Samoa Joe would be on Rampage. Dynamite Commentary: Excalibur, Taz, Paul Wight / Refs: Rick Knox, Paul Turner, Aubrey Edwards Rampage Commentary: Tony Schiavone, Mark Henry, Rotating Third Seat / Refs: Bryce Remsburg, Mike Posey For the actual splitting of the rosters, besides The Elite on Dynamite, I'd also have Jon Moxley separate himself from the rest of BCC and Punk by remaining on Dynamite.ย I'd send Chuck Taylor over on a solo run as well. Groupwise I'd keep Death Triangle on Dynamite, I'd also elevate The Trustbusters for more TV time on a split roster Dynamite. The JAS would be scattered to the wind. Sammy and Tay would stay, Garcia would too. 2.0, Jericho and Hager though would be sent over to Rampage. Rampage would also be the home of Yuta and Danielson. I'd keep House of Black on Rampage along with Andrade when he returns from injury. Kyle O'Reilly would also be a when returning from injury roster spot. To build the lower card, I'd ship The Factory over to Dynamite. Graduating from Dark duty would be Sonny Kiss, The Iron Savages and Serpentico. It's a bit harder to split the women's side but it'd be more of the Southern Heel Classic Americana Wrestling all-stars while Rampage would be a bit more eye popping 1
John from Cincinnati Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 Cackling at the idea of people putting Jericho on the Punk show.ย 2
Gordi the BJW fan Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) I would, absolutely, stop watching if AEW split into WWE-esque "brands." Possibly, I would go back to only watching live shows (in Osaka), Secret Santo matches (matches I am given and matches I'm considering giving to others), and WK and select G1 shows on streaming services. Which is where I think I was before AEW started up. Maybe I wasn't doing Secret Santo then? But I still would have been watching semi-random weird matches on YouTube that were recommended by friends or that showed up in my feed. Which is pretty similar to Secret Santo, minus the mandatory write-ups. That would free up a lot of time every week, so once I got over the shattering disappointment over AEW turning into WWE I think I'd be able to spin it as being for the best. Edit: I will also stop watching if they do an AEW vs ROH PPV where wrestlers on either "brand" put aside their differences, don color-coordinated t-shirts, and battle to determine "brand supremacy." Edited December 13, 2022 by Gordlow 7 1
Goitre Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) Ten hours and seven replies, not one comment relating to "AEW - December 2022"... (I guess this makes it eight replies.) Edited December 13, 2022 by Goitre 1
Octopus Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gordlow said: I would, absolutely, stop watching if AEW split into WWE-esque "brands." Possibly, I would go back to only watching live shows (in Osaka), Secret Santo matches (matches I am given and matches I'm considering giving to others), and WK and select G1 shows on streaming services. Which is where I think I was before AEW started up. Maybe I wasn't doing Secret Santo then? But I still would have been watching semi-random weird matches on YouTube that were recommended by friends or that showed up in my feed. Which is pretty similar to Secret Santo, minus the mandatory write-ups. That would free up a lot of time every week, so once I got over the shattering disappointment over AEW turning into WWE I think I'd be able to spin it as being for the best. Not only will there be brands, but authority figures.ย ย Shad Khan - โThe name on the contract does say Khan...however the contract reads SHAD Khan!!!! 6
JLowe Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 Since I missed watching the whole show before the Rampage thread closed, Iโll add my thoughts here. Mox-Soup was another great match and Iโm so looking forward to when Takeshita finally gets that big win. Mox blading from a big boot was pretty funny though. Bunny-Shida was a fun match, Allie is a really great character in ring and a pretty good wrestler so she added a lot of entertainment to what was a foregone conclusion. Meteora from ring apron to floor was a great spot, and that might have been the best Iโve seen Shidaโs finisher look. Tyga and Big Bill squash was a very good squash, probably something that shouldโve been on YouTube but gave the crowd a break before the main. Big Bill was really good reacting and hyping from the ring apron, and they have some promising starts to some fun double-teams. Main was probably the least of the recent amazing OC run. The opening comedy section was fun, and Trent chopping the ring post sounded like it was solid contact. The middle section got a little janky at times, didnโt always flow smoothly. Ford going to get BBB made a lot of sense and Iโm down for a Best Friends-Butcher and Blade match. The little story at the end with T7 blocking the first DDT attempt was a good transition to the finish section of a match whose outcome was never in doubt. 5 1
Zakk_Sabbath Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Octopus said: Rampage gets 2 hours and a better time spot, CM Punk says heโll stay as long as him and the Elite are on separate โBrandsโ, Tony Kahn hires โYOUโ to separate the roster in half. This includes wrestlers, managers, referees, and color commentators.ย Who you got on Dynamite and who you got on Rampage? Excellent post idea/thought exercise/food for debate, sir. For the record, I am 1000% with @Gordlow on this - the whole 'roster' split idea sucks, and I have always thought it was the worst idea. Why would you ever, as a booker, want to limit the matches and combinations you can book BY DESIGN? I get the idea of having a separate developmental show like an NXT or late-era Jimmy Hart-led WCWSN, or the old A - B - C tours like the WWF did in the '80s, that's completely fine with me. One could almost argue that AEW had a 'soft' brand split in place for much of the early months of Rampage, which was pretty well done - Hook could wrestle once in a while on Wednesdays without an issue, and there weren't 3 world titles. That being said...ย DRAFTING a split? Maybe my favorite thing to do on the planet. I got way into that 2K game during the pandemic (hence why I broke this down by title division, out of habit). I also didn't list either trios title - way too much overlap w the tag divisions, and it caused a lot of duplicates, so I just skipped them. I included hurt/suspended individuals as well, because if this whole discussion is predicated on the Punk hypothetical, then clearly anything is possible (like a content Andrade, or a healthy Jeff Hardy). ย WEDNESDAY NIGHT DYNAMITE ROSTER ย AEW World Championship ย MJF Malakai Black Ricky Starks Jungle Boy Sammy Guevara Darby Allin PAC Hangman Page Jon Moxley Adam Cole Bryan Danielson ย FTW Championship ย Hook Swerve Strickland Bandido Kip Sabian AR Fox Angelico Ortizย Fuego Del Sol Juice Robinson Matt Hardy Colt Cabana ย AEW World Tag Team Championship (Shared) ย The Acclaimed FTR Gates of Agony House of Black The Butcher and The Blade Private Party Bear Country Silver/Reynolds ย TBS Championshipย ย Jade Cargill Kris Statlander Willow Nightingale Athena Nyla Rose Riho Ruby Soho Tay Melo Anna Jay Yuka Sakazaki ย Managers, Part-Timers, Legends, etc. ย Sting Billy Gunn ย FRIDAY NIGHT RAMPAGE ROSTER ย AEW All-Atlantic Championship ย Orange Cassidy Kenny Omega Claudio Castagnoli Eddie Kingstonย Chris Jericho Jay Lethal Shawn Spears Matt Sydal Rush Ethan Page Daniel Garcia Wheeler Yuta Konosuke Takeshita ย TNT Championship ย Samoa Joe Powerhouse Hobbs Keith Lee Nick Commoroto Brian Cage Wardlow Miro Bill Morrissey Luchasaurus Lance Archer Parker Bordreaux Evil Uno Jake Hager ย AEW World Tag Team Championship (Shared) ย The Young Bucks 2.0 Lucha Bros. Best Friends Gunn Club SCU Top Flight ย AEW Women's World Championship ย Britt Baker The Bunny Emi Sakura Hikaru Shida Jamie Hayter Penelope Ford Saraya Serena Deeb Toni Storm Mercedes Martinez Layla Hirsch ย Managers, Part-Timers, Legends, etc. ย Christian Cage Dustin Rhodes Rebel Not Reba Brandon Cutler Jake 'The Snake' Roberts Jose The Assistant ย RING OF HONOR/DARK/ELEVATION ROSTER: ย ROH World Championship ย CM Punk Andrade Jeff Hardy Kyle O'Reillyย Shawn Spears Kip Sabian Anthony Ogogo Satnam Singhย Danhausen Brian Pillman, Jr Dalton Castle ย ROH Pure Championship ย Preston Vance Sean Dean Cole Karter Zack Clayton Aaron Solo Ryan Nemeth QT Marshall Griff Garrison Ariya Daivari Lee Moriarty ย ROH World Tag Team Championshipย ย The Briscoes Anderson/Johnson The Kingdom Workhorsemen Luther/Serpentico Bononi/Avalon Kiss/Slim J Varsity Athletes The Boys ย ROH Women's Championship ย Julia Hart Kiera Hogan Leila Gray The Librarian Madison Rain Maria Kannellis Marina Shafir Red Velvet Skye Blueย Paige Van Zant Thunder Rosa Abadon ย Managers, Part-Timers, Legends, etc. ย Christopher Daniels Jeff Jarrett Arn Anderson Prince Nana Sonjay Dutt ย 1
Zakk_Sabbath Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 For some reason the board won't let me go back to edit this post, but two small corrections: 1) I accidentally listed Shawn Spears twice, under both Rampage and ROH/Dark/Elevation - the latter is correct 2) I forgot to list Vickie Guerrero as Nyla's manager on Dynamite 1
Octopus Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) Ok, so the AEW World Title goes to Rampage and the newly crowned AEW Universal Title goes to Dynamite. The goal will be to have an Elite show and a Punk show, but keeping the roster diverse in styles so each show can have the desired buffet feel. Also, enough of a gimmicked difference so they feel special. The Tag Titles will go to Rampage and the Trio Titles will go to Dynamite. Dynamite can have the wild fast paced three man teams and the classic tag team action can be a staple of Rampage. Every year, the Dynamite after All Out will hold a Uh Oh Lottery thatโll claim to shake things up, but not too drastically. Excalibur will be the only constant, but he will be joined by Tony Schiavone and Taz on Dynamite and a four man booth with JR, Big Show, and Mark Henry. Aubrey, Bryce, and Knox will ref Dynamite, Turner and TBD will be on Rampage. Rampage gets the TNT and TBS Titles and Dynamite gets the All-Atlantic and the FTW titles. The Womenโs Champion (Jamie Hayter) is the only belt that goes on both shows. A new secondary womenโs title, The All-Pacific Championship, will be added to Dynamite. ROH will be taped before Rampage and Dark will be taped before Dynamite. Assuming the travel is handleable, someone could be on Dynamite and ROH, ROH is pretty much separate but recognized world. ย DYNAMITE: ย Jon Moxley Chris Jericho and the JAS The Elite (Omega and the Young Bucks) Hangman Adam Page and the Dark Order Eddie Kingstonย Darby Allin Sting The Death Triangle The House of Black Thunder Rosa Keith Lee Swerve Stricklandย Jungle Boy Hikaru Shida Best Friends Kris Stratlander Ortiz Ruby Soho Nyla Rose Tay and Jayย Hook Will Hobbs The Factory Riho Layla Hirsch (when healthy) ย ย RAMPAGE: ย CM Punk Bryan Danielson MJF Miro Jade Cargill and the Baddies Brit Baker Adam Cole (when healthy) Wardlow FTR Ricky Starks The Acclaimed Toni Stormย Claudio Castagnoliย Samoa Joe Athena Mercedes Martinez Wheeler Yuta The Firm Serena Deeb Willow Nightingaleย The Butcher and the Blade and the Bunny Bear Country Private Party The Hardyzย Rush (and Andrade if he is still here) Luchasaurus and Christian Cageย ย ย This is just a rough and for fun idea. Dynamite has a fairly balanced roster of different styles. Rampage has less speed workers at the top, but that will allow a group like Private Party and other young undercard acts to shine. Edited December 13, 2022 by Octopus 1
The Green Meanie Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) I'm not a fan of a brand split at this point, but I'd absolutely keep watching the product and would in no way leave due to one. That's how much I enjoy the company. Edited December 13, 2022 by The Green Meanie 5
zendragon Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Dolphman 3000 said: ย Hopefully he can alleviate some of the timing issues. ย As for a brand split the only one is I hope ROH/AEW is a hard and fast split with minimal and rare brand jumping 6
Octopus Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 6 hours ago, The Green Meanie said: I'm not a fan of a brand split at this point, but I'd absolutely keep watching the product and would in no way leave due to one. That's how much I enjoy the company. Agreed. This is more a fun thought experiment then an actual wish. 1
TheVileOne Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 4 hours ago, zendragon said: Hopefully he can alleviate some of the timing issues. ย As for a brand split the only one is I hope ROH/AEW is a hard and fast split with minimal and rare brand jumping How is that going to work with Samoa Joe, Claudio Castagnoli, and Wheeler Yuta? 1
Zakk_Sabbath Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 25 minutes ago, TheVileOne said: How is that going to work with Samoa Joe, Claudio Castagnoli, and Wheeler Yuta? That's kind of the struggle I had when I was doing my draft last night. The only way I could figure out to do it in a way that wasn't just 'Dark: Now With Belts!' was combine the 'ROH Roster' (aka The Briscoes) with Dark/Elevation, and send Andrade, Punk, and Jeff Hardy there to learn how to act 1
FourPostMassacre Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 17 hours ago, Gordlow said: I would, absolutely, stop watching if AEW split into WWE-esque "brands." Possibly, I would go back to only watching live shows (in Osaka), Secret Santo matches (matches I am given and matches I'm considering giving to others), and WK and select G1 shows on streaming services. Which is where I think I was before AEW started up. Maybe I wasn't doing Secret Santo then? But I still would have been watching semi-random weird matches on YouTube that were recommended by friends or that showed up in my feed. Which is pretty similar to Secret Santo, minus the mandatory write-ups. That would free up a lot of time every week, so once I got over the shattering disappointment over AEW turning into WWE I think I'd be able to spin it as being for the best. Edit: I will also stop watching if they do an AEW vs ROH PPV where wrestlers on either "brand" put aside their differences, don color-coordinated t-shirts, and battle to determine "brand supremacy." You mean you donโt want to see Rampage have โBrand Supremacyโ over Dynamite?! You wouldnโt like it if the shows were color coded?ย ย While I applaud the discussion this idea has created I am with the people that would hate this.ย 4
Zakk_Sabbath Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 58 minutes ago, FourPostMassacre said: While I applaud the discussion this idea has created I am with the people that would hate this.ย Take away all the dumb shit we've all listed about it for a moment - the internal idea at the time was for WWE to 'be its own competition' because the other two major promotions were gone. So even on the basis of the original logic, it's an antiquated idea. I cannot imagine that a single soul here could get into 'MY GOD, THAT'S RAMPAGE SUPERSTAR CHRIS JERICHO! WHAT'S HE DOING HERE ON DYNAMITE?' from the same company that's already openly featured talent from NJPW, Impact, NWA, etc. and brought us Forbidden Door.ย Some great conversations here, and I had a super fun couple hours last night drafting my rosters... but, no. Hard no. 1 1
zendragon Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 6 hours ago, TheVileOne said: How is that going to work with Samoa Joe, Claudio Castagnoli, and Wheeler Yuta? Currently you have more talent than TV time. You need to do something, plus you want stars on the ROH show 1
MoeCristyV.1.6 Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 Did I get in the "Fantasy Booking AEW" Thread by accident? How would have you guys booked, I don't know, something original.. Think.... The Invasion 2001? 1 1
Zakk_Sabbath Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, MoeCristyV.1.6 said: Did I get in the "Fantasy Booking AEW" Thread by accident? How would have you guys booked, I don't know, something original.. Think.... The Invasion 2001? My bad. I love drafting and never get to do it outside of fantasy at the start of football season! It was the color coding that put it over the line, wasn't it... 1
MoeCristyV.1.6 Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 Not enough strong opinions about Cody Rhodes or Hulk Hogan for me to really dig it.ย 1
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