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I knew they would be affected. If they don't get good backers they may have to close down or shrink even more or another smaller splinter promotion starts up.

 

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How was that promotion still alive before COVID? They drew hardly any fans and a decent chunk of their wrestlers work elsewhere in addition to Zero1. For the love of God, call it a day and sign on with the likes of AJPW, DDT, and BJW. I need to see Yuji Hino work the other beefy boys on the regular. He's awesome. Last I saw, Ohtani still has some good matches in him. Tanaka is a freak (how is he still wrestling like it's 2002 after all the crazy stuff he did in FMW and ECW?). Sato to BJW if they can afford to take him on, right?

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Yeah, AJ can scoop up Hino with their freed up Akiyama money.

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The only herd I need COVID to cull is superfluous Japanese establishment-indies. And maybe a few political careers.

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Some additional details.

 

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Press conference later.

AJPW news 

Spoiler

Suwama won

 

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Upcoming AJ shoes look swell. At some point I need to catch up on their empty arena shows: 

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AJPW "ALL JAPAN PRO-WRESTLING BROADCAST 2020 #8.5 ~ TURNING POINT", 10.07.2020 (AJPW.tv) 
Unbekannter Ort 
ohne Fans 

- 5th Asunaro Cup: Dan Tamura vs. Rising HAYATO 
- 5th Asunaro Cup: Hokuto Omori vs. Atsuki Aoyagi 


All Japan Pro-Wrestling - "SUMMER ACTION SERIES 2020" 

AJPW "FAN CLUB MEMBERS ONLY SPECIAL SHOW", 13.07.2020 
Shin-Kiba 1st RING 

- 5th Asunaro Cup: Hokuto Omori vs. Dan Tamura 
- 5th Asunaro Cup: Atsuki Aoyagi vs. Rising HAYATO 
- Takao Omori & Black Menso~re vs. Yoshitatsu & Seigo Tachibana 
- Yuma Aoyagi, TAJIRI & KAI vs. Shotaro Ashino, Kuma Arashi & Yusuke Kodama 
- Kento Miyahara, Jiro "Ikemen" Kuroshio & Francesco Akira vs. Zeus, UTAMARO & X 
- Suwama, Shuji Ishikawa, Yusuke Okada & Hikaru Sato vs. Jake Lee, Koji Iwamoto, Ayato Yoshida  & Fuminori Abe  


AJPW "CHIBA EXTRA DREAM 24", 18.07.2020 
Chiba 2AW Square 

- AJPW World Tag Team Title: Suwama & Shuji Ishikawa (c) vs. Isami Kodaka  & Yuko Miyamoto 


AJPW, 23.07.2020 
Bandaijima Multipurpose Plaza 

- GAORA TV Title: Yoshitatsu (c) vs. X 
- Triple Crown Skirmish: Suwama & Hikaru Sato vs. Shuji Ishikawa & Yusuke Okada 


AJPW, 25.07.2020 
Tokyo Korakuen Hall 

- AJPW World Jr. Heavyweight Title: Susumu Yokosuka  (c) vs. Koji Iwamoto 
- Triple Crown: Suwama (c) vs. Shuji Ishikawa

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9 minutes ago, Control said:

Upcoming AJ shoes look swell. At some point I need to catch up on their empty arena shows: 

 

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AJPW "ALL JAPAN PRO-WRESTLING BROADCAST 2020 #8.5 ~ TURNING POINT", 10.07.2020 (AJPW.tv) 
Unbekannter Ort 
ohne Fans 

- 5th Asunaro Cup: Dan Tamura vs. Rising HAYATO 
- 5th Asunaro Cup: Hokuto Omori vs. Atsuki Aoyagi 


All Japan Pro-Wrestling - "SUMMER ACTION SERIES 2020" 

AJPW "FAN CLUB MEMBERS ONLY SPECIAL SHOW", 13.07.2020 
Shin-Kiba 1st RING 

- 5th Asunaro Cup: Hokuto Omori vs. Dan Tamura 
- 5th Asunaro Cup: Atsuki Aoyagi vs. Rising HAYATO 
- Takao Omori & Black Menso~re vs. Yoshitatsu & Seigo Tachibana 
- Yuma Aoyagi, TAJIRI & KAI vs. Shotaro Ashino, Kuma Arashi & Yusuke Kodama 
- Kento Miyahara, Jiro "Ikemen" Kuroshio & Francesco Akira vs. Zeus, UTAMARO & X 
- Suwama, Shuji Ishikawa, Yusuke Okada & Hikaru Sato vs. Jake Lee, Koji Iwamoto, Ayato Yoshida  & Fuminori Abe  


AJPW "CHIBA EXTRA DREAM 24", 18.07.2020 
Chiba 2AW Square 

- AJPW World Tag Team Title: Suwama & Shuji Ishikawa (c) vs. Isami Kodaka  & Yuko Miyamoto 


AJPW, 23.07.2020 
Bandaijima Multipurpose Plaza 

- GAORA TV Title: Yoshitatsu (c) vs. X 
- Triple Crown Skirmish: Suwama & Hikaru Sato vs. Shuji Ishikawa & Yusuke Okada 


AJPW, 25.07.2020 
Tokyo Korakuen Hall 

- AJPW World Jr. Heavyweight Title: Susumu Yokosuka  (c) vs. Koji Iwamoto 
- Triple Crown: Suwama (c) vs. Shuji Ishikawa

 

 

Ed Sullivan - IMDb

That Triple Crown match does look awesome.

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Posted (edited)

Takuro Niki formally of W-1 has joined 2AW.

Not sure but Tamura's Lidet promotion might a restart of a previous promotion.

Anyway in other news,  will have to wait for the Inoki Okada interview tidbits

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On 6/30/2020 at 9:19 PM, Control said:

Upcoming AJ shoes look swell. At some point I need to catch up on their empty arena shows: 

 

  Reveal hidden contents

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AJPW "ALL JAPAN PRO-WRESTLING BROADCAST 2020 #8.5 ~ TURNING POINT", 10.07.2020 (AJPW.tv) 
Unbekannter Ort 
ohne Fans 

- 5th Asunaro Cup: Dan Tamura vs. Rising HAYATO 
- 5th Asunaro Cup: Hokuto Omori vs. Atsuki Aoyagi 


All Japan Pro-Wrestling - "SUMMER ACTION SERIES 2020" 

AJPW "FAN CLUB MEMBERS ONLY SPECIAL SHOW", 13.07.2020 
Shin-Kiba 1st RING 

- 5th Asunaro Cup: Hokuto Omori vs. Dan Tamura 
- 5th Asunaro Cup: Atsuki Aoyagi vs. Rising HAYATO 
- Takao Omori & Black Menso~re vs. Yoshitatsu & Seigo Tachibana 
- Yuma Aoyagi, TAJIRI & KAI vs. Shotaro Ashino, Kuma Arashi & Yusuke Kodama 
- Kento Miyahara, Jiro "Ikemen" Kuroshio & Francesco Akira vs. Zeus, UTAMARO & X 
- Suwama, Shuji Ishikawa, Yusuke Okada & Hikaru Sato vs. Jake Lee, Koji Iwamoto, Ayato Yoshida  & Fuminori Abe  


AJPW "CHIBA EXTRA DREAM 24", 18.07.2020 
Chiba 2AW Square 

- AJPW World Tag Team Title: Suwama & Shuji Ishikawa (c) vs. Isami Kodaka  & Yuko Miyamoto 


AJPW, 23.07.2020 
Bandaijima Multipurpose Plaza 

- GAORA TV Title: Yoshitatsu (c) vs. X 
- Triple Crown Skirmish: Suwama & Hikaru Sato vs. Shuji Ishikawa & Yusuke Okada 


AJPW, 25.07.2020 
Tokyo Korakuen Hall 

- AJPW World Jr. Heavyweight Title: Susumu Yokosuka  (c) vs. Koji Iwamoto 
- Triple Crown: Suwama (c) vs. Shuji Ishikawa

 

 

I've generally found the AJPW shows to be about the most watchable of empty arena shows. Partially because of how 2AW Square is as a building, all the shows I've seen from there have felt pretty solid, but also just the booking has been such a contrast from NOAH (I've enjoyed some of NOAH, especially Shiozaki's title defences, but god, they really are just running like business as usual, reacting like there's a crowd, doing 25 minute "epic" matches that'd have been better served with being closer to 10.), things have generally been snappy, it has felt a bit different from usual AJPW in presentation, obviously not everything has been a classic but just as watchable weekly wrestling goes I've been grateful for All Japan.

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Suwama vs Ishikawa should be ballers. AJPW > NJPW, with or without fans imco (In My Cranky Opinion). 

I thought Takaiwa left Z1 years ago?? Ohtani should just go to AJPW and get a Jr. title run and then put over Yusuke Okada. 

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Okada is studying Inoki and older matches, ex :Inoki v Fujinami in 1988.  

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The most interesting part of that interview, I think, is Okada inviting Inoki to New Japan shows. 

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1 minute ago, Beech27 said:

The most interesting part of that interview, I think, is Okada inviting Inoki to New Japan shows. 

INOKIISM LIVES!

 

On 6/26/2020 at 1:15 AM, D.Z said:

Sorry for the triple post but:

Jun Akiyama to be rented to DDT, and may stay there after rent.


Probably penance for approaching The Enemy about NXT Japan.

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Onita is worried about the second wave of corona obliterating many promotions. ( The ones that aren't the 6). If many promotions go bankrupt, I don't expect most wrestlers to have a job in wrestling with limited space available.

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Isn't Japan on third or fourth wave already?

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Takumi Baba formally of W-1 works for Z-1 now. Shuji Kondo decided Dragongate will be his main battlefield.

About 11 or so W-1 wrestlers that haven't landed yet anywhere.

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Up to 5000 can attend again.

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Wada speculates DDT will become more Royal Road while AJP will become more DDT. I don't really agree, seems more like AJP is reverting to something similar to Muto era AJP just with less budget. There will be inheritance of the Royal Road in DDT, but the wacky comedy and other styles will certainly stay.

Anyway in other AJP news, memorial show for Atsushi Aoki on August 15th at Korakuen.

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That sounds such a weird thing. What DDT would actually get from being more like old AJPW?

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To me it sounds like some Japanese corporate synergy bullshit they tell each other in the boardroom when two places merge, then when they go back to work it's all just words and they do whatever they were doing in the first place. 

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DDT isn't going to become more like old AJPW but some wrestlers will have the teachings of Jun and the Royal Road passed down to them. Royal Road is also what Baba handed down to Jun and to whoever is next. Jun also teaches differently in the DDT dojo but still he doesn't want to throw everything out DDT taught these guys.

DDT isn't giving up their rest of their identity.

Wada is only right about nothing ever stays the same forever though.

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Hey, are there any copyright problems with putting GAIA files up on Youtube? Because I'd like to try to put one up. 

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