Hell In A Cell X - 9/16/2018

[Doragon]

Eventually they will put the Smackdown women's belt back on Charlotte. And Bliss will fuck finish Ronda to win the Raw women's belt.

 

[Bustronaut]

 

[Brian Fowler]

My favorite women's match this year is probably Auska/Bayley from RAW around February, part of the build to that red hot Bayley/Sasha feud that was so awe...... Fuck

[MapRef41N93W]

I don't watch consistently, but I checked out the Rousey/Bliss match--does Ronda always do her armbar like that now, with the arm clearly bent? What's going on there?

[Raziel]

3 minutes ago, MapRef41N93W said:

I don't watch consistently, but I checked out the Rousey/Bliss match--does Ronda always do her armbar like that now, with the arm clearly bent? What's going on there?

It's a different type of armbar, but it still fucking hurts like hell.

[Doragon]

 

[Brian Fowler]

It almost looks like a wrist lock

[MapRef41N93W]

Yeah, it does look like it would be a wristlock if anything. I don't buy it as a bent armlock (like a keylock/americana). Maybe they wanted her to have something different since Asuka and Nakamura both do straight armbars IIRC, but still wanted something resembling an armbar finish, and thought the arm-in-the-armpit straight armbar was too dangerous.

I love seeing Ronda hit Judo throws on people, though. I don't think I'll ever get sick of that.

[Raziel]

You know Ronda's arm bar is an actual Ude Garami, just done from a different position, right?

[Firebreaker Chip]

I thought McIntyre came out looking like a million bucks by the end of that tag match, the disturbingly effortless kip up, the genius finish, carrying dead ziggler and both belts to the back without looking tired. Nobody's career is truly unsalvageable, as long as there remains an indie scene to refresh careers and the faint but real hope that Vince will perhaps one day die

I liked Joe/AJ, wondered if the finish would work better if Joe's argument is just that AJ was out. Like why would you bother tapping to a blood choke if you were pinning a guy at 2? I guess you can just say that AJ was being sneaky and he really hates Joe though

 

[odessasteps]

33 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said:

It almost looks like a wrist lock

But not a wrist watch. 

[Bustronaut]

I can't tell the difference

[Brian Fowler]

3 minutes ago, Raziel said:

You know Ronda's arm bar is an actual Ude Garami, just done from a different position, right?

I don't know that the fuck a Ude Garami is, angle be damned

[Bustronaut]

She's dating Pete Davidson

[Hamhock]

5 minutes ago, odessasteps said:

But not a wrist watch. 

[Doragon]

Or bent armlock.

[DreamBroken]

Alexa/Asuka from 1/1 RAW is still one of my favorites of the year. Thought the last Charlotte/Carmella match was actually really good. Alexa/Ronda was a blast last night, entertaining all the way through with a great story, selling, payoff, etc, loved it.

[MapRef41N93W]

26 minutes ago, Raziel said:

You know Ronda's arm bar is an actual Ude Garami, just done from a different position, right?

I see the resemblance, but the way she's doing it in that gif, it doesn't look like it would actually put much pressure on the shoulder. The opponent's elbow is up too high next to their head, and Ronda's own leg is blocking her from getting any more torque. As I understand it, that kind of bent armlock works best when the opponent's elbow is closer down closer to their hip (as in the drawing @D.Z posted).

I know it's a worked hold and all, but I don't see how a bent armlock from that position would work even in theory.

It does look like it would be a mean wristlock, though. And of course I could be completely wrong, I'm not a grappling expert.

[Adam]

7 hours ago, The Natural said:

Bret Hart is awesome for various reasons and that includes pinning combinations from nowhere:

vs. Roddy Piper, WrestleMania VIII.

vs. Bam Bam Bigelow, King of the Ring 1993.

vs. Diesel, Survivor Series 1995.

vs. British Bulldog, In Your House 5: Seasons Beatings 1995.

vs. Steve Austin, Survivor Series 1996.

One of my all time favourite finishes to a match is actually against Bret by the Bulldog for his reversal of the Sunset flip at Summerslam 92.

[Adam]

I liked it that much that I seemed to have said it twice.

I'll use this post then to ask this question:

 

Where does Daniel Bryan go from here?

[Doragon]

Random feud with a random guy or one on one vs miz at survivor series?

[odessasteps]

23 minutes ago, Adam said:

I liked it that much that I seemed to have said it twice.

I'll use this post then to ask this question:

 

Where does Daniel Bryan go from here?

Sadly, not Arena Mexico. 

[odessasteps]

Interesting discussion on jarretts pod this week with scott bowden about if Jerry could have done anything to thwart or derail Vinces expansion. 

Also, some fun stuff about creating the Hulk  persona with a young and green Mr. Bollea.

[DreamBroken]

42 minutes ago, Adam said:

Where does Daniel Bryan go from here?

He's wrestling Miz at Super Showdown for a WWE title shot, so at least another 3 weeks of that feud. I thought Bryan/Brie would win last night so Miz would win there but I dunno now.

[RIPPA]

Yeah - the assumption is Bryan is getting his win there and is either Joe's first challenger or AJ's as they have AJ break some unknown record at the moment