Antacular Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 I never got the Hancock or I, Robot hate, they're both perfectly acceptable summer flicks. I am Legend is borderline very good. Really, his only truly awful ones are www and MiB2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustronaut Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 MIB 3 wasn't very good either. WWW is likely one of the worst movies I've seen, based on the ratio of potential to realization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivpvideos Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Hancock was perfectly ok until the TERRIBLE TWIST THAT MADE ZERO SENSE. I enjoyed I,Robot very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 The twist in Hancock ruined what was a serviceable/boring movie. I, Robot I actually like quite a bit. MiB 3 I like quite a bit as well. It's a little overly sentimental, but I thought it was pretty good. As good as the first and way better than the second. WWW though, wow, that's a pretty horrible movie. It's even worse after hearing Kevin Smith talk about his time meeting with Jon Peters and seeing Peters' coke fueled ideas pop up in WWW. And I Am Legend fulfills the "if it's on TV I probably won't change the channel and it's ok enough to leave on in the background" role. It's not a very good movie, the entire premise is thrown out the window midway through, and he could have left with the woman and her kid, but chooses to blow himself up instead. FFS, he could have still pulled the pin on the grenade, left it there, and still dashed out with the woman and her kid. Same effect and now humanity has a better chance of winning the war because they have the most brilliant scientist in the world with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Those first few scenes of Hancock promise a really great movie that never surfaces. A surly, alcoholic, total fuck-up with Superman powers who tries to do the right thing? Yeah, I want to see that. 20 minutes in, and they are doing stupid stuff like cleaning him up and shit and the rest of the movie ranges from dull to awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antacular Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 I should clarify: WWW is also up there with the absolute worst movies I've ever seen. MiB2 was just simply bad. MiB3 was also borderline very good until Kay adopted Jay Terrible ending. I'd go so far as to say the first MiB is a future classic, neither of the sequels touches it. I mean, come on. Marbles~! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Yeah, if the whole thing were Will Smith being a super powered alcoholic bum for the majority of the movie, it would have been much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 I should clarify: WWW is also up there with the absolute worst movies I've ever seen. MiB2 was just simply bad. MiB3 was also borderline very good until Kay adopted Jay Terrible ending. I'd go so far as to say the first MiB is a future classic, neither of the sequels touches it. I mean, come on. Marbles~! Oh shit, I totally forgot about the thing in your first spoiler, maybe because I blocked it from memory. I may have to reconsider how I feel about MiB3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antacular Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 What gets to me the most about that is it was so unnecessary. It served ZERO purpose in terms of both characterization and plot development. A damn shame to an otherwise fine piece of cinema. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Spanish Waiter Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 All of this mingebaggery and no one has pointed out how fucking awful everything Jamie Foxx has done is. And how awful he is in those movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 How many academy awards does Will Smith have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 How many stars does David Meltzer give to shit matches? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Well put, but the point of the matter is the quality of the work put into the performances each actor gives and nothing Will Smith has done is as good of a job that Jamie Foxx did transforming himself into Ray Charles. It doesn't mean Will Smith is a bad actor, but Jamie Foxx isn't a bad actor as well. In fact, I'd say that Foxx does a better job with more dramatic roles, while Smith has the charm and charisma to do a better job at pulling off bigger blockbuster type movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Finally saw Lincoln the other day. It's amazing how many folks were on their a-game in that flick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Spanish Waiter Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Well put, but the point of the matter is the quality of the work put into the performances each actor gives and nothing Will Smith has done is as good of a job that Jamie Foxx did transforming himself into Ray Charles. It doesn't mean Will Smith is a bad actor, but Jamie Foxx isn't a bad actor as well. In fact, I'd say that Foxx does a better job with more dramatic roles, while Smith has the charm and charisma to do a better job at pulling off bigger blockbuster type movies. Jamie Foxx has one good role ever (and I haven't seen it so I won't comment other than to say I haven't seen it because 2 hours of Jamie Foxx oscar pandering is too much), Will Smith was the biggest star in Hollywood until he stopped trying. If it's acting vs acting, well take Ray out and you've got Stealth, The Kingdom and Any Given Sunday vs any Will Smith movie you want. And you can't tell me Smith is the problem with WWW (a movie I love) or whatever other nonsense opinions you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 And you can't tell me Smith is the problem with WWW (a movie I love) or whatever other nonsense opinions you have. Fucking hilarious. And for shits and giggles, here's a list of watchable movies Jamie Foxx has a sizable role and does a good job in: Ray Jarhead Collateral Any Given Sunday Miami Vice The Kingdom Law Abiding Citizen Django Unchained Of those, he's acting his ass off in Ray, Jarhead, Collateral, and Django. I can't comment on The Kingdom or even White House Down because I haven't seen either, but I heard The Kingdom is boring and WHD is dumb, goofy fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 I think Will is a better everything than Jamie Foxx. Will crying to Uncle Phil about "How come he don't want me?" > All of Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 That's, like, your opinion, man. Good scene, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Spanish Waiter Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 And you can't tell me Smith is the problem with WWW (a movie I love) or whatever other nonsense opinions you have. Fucking hilarious. And for shits and giggles, here's a list of watchable movies Jamie Foxx has a sizable role and does a good job in: Ray Jarhead Collateral Any Given Sunday Miami Vice The Kingdom Law Abiding Citizen Django Unchained Of those, he's acting his ass off in Ray, Jarhead, Collateral, and Django. I can't comment on The Kingdom or even White House Down because I haven't seen either, but I heard The Kingdom is boring and WHD is dumb, goofy fun. He's terrible in all those movies. Especially Django, where you can tell it's an effort for him to try and play a serious role. LAC was a top movie that he did his best to ruin, Miami Vice was fucking terrible. Collateral was shit and Any Given Sunday was as good as he was terrible. THEY SAID I COULDN'T BE A QUARTERBACK. BECAUSE I WAS BLACK. DURRR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 That's, like, your opinion, man. Good scene, though. I'll go one step further, Will Smith would have been too good for Django. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Spanish Waiter Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 That's, like, your opinion, man. Good scene, though. I'll go one step further, Will Smith would have been too good for Django. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig H Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 The part needed someone understated. Will Smith himself said he didn't take the part because he didn't feel he would be the lead and wouldn't be the one to take down the bad guy. Would you really want Will Smith goofing around in scenes where Django has to beg Big John to not whip Brunhilda, or when he's actually able to dress himself in clothes he picks out? Part of the charm of the latter scene I mentioned is that up until that point, Django is a confused former slave and is getting used to being free, so while he can put on flashy clothes, it doesn't quite work yet since he isn't completely comfortable in his shoes. Will Smith has way too much charm for moments like that. I think he would have been fine, but I'm completely happy with what we got in Django and think Foxx played the part very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newb82 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Foxx has a couple moments in THE GREAT WHITE HYPE. That's all I have to add to this discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Spanish Waiter Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 The part needed someone understated. Will Smith himself said he didn't take the part because he didn't feel he would be the lead and wouldn't be the one to take down the bad guy. Would you really want Will Smith goofing around in scenes where Django has to beg Big John to not whip Brunhilda, or when he's actually able to dress himself in clothes he picks out? Part of the charm of the latter scene I mentioned is that up until that point, Django is a confused former slave and is getting used to being free, so while he can put on flashy clothes, it doesn't quite work yet since he isn't completely comfortable in his shoes. Will Smith has way too much charm for moments like that. I think he would have been fine, but I'm completely happy with what we got in Django and think Foxx played the part very well. You seriously think Will Smith would be cracking jokes throughout Django? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivpvideos Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Pssssssh Naaaaw 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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