2014-15 NCAAF - THE PLAYOFFS! (and Bowls)

[muhammedboehm]

Two questions. 1) to those who think this was all for ratings why not then put tOSU vs Oregan in the Rose to keep that tradition? 2) do the people who claim this was the commetie why of telling the big 12 to get two more realy think the out come would have been diffrent if yesterday's KSU/Baylor game had been a championship game?

[EVA]

Well, Jeff Long outright said that the 13th game was a big influence on their decision. Can't get much clearer than that.

[Hail Sabin]

Orange Bowl 12 Georgia Tech vs. 7 Miss St

Peach Bowl 9 Ole Miss vs. 6 TCU

Fiesta Bowl 20 Boise St vs. 10 Arizona

Cotton Bowl 8 Michigan St vs. 5 Baylor

 

As revealed on the ESPN playoff show.

[BillThompson]

Another good match-up for Boise. I think we can take this one, but at the very least it will be a competitive game.

[Hail Sabin]

I think Boise can win that game they will need to keep their QB upright and get after Arizona's QB.

[evilwaldo]

 

 

Big 12 commish:  We need to add 2 teams next year.

Secretary:  Boise State on line 1 sir and Marshall on line 2.

Big 12 commish:  Put Boise on hold.  Marshall, you want in?  Sure, no problem, you are in.  Thanks, bye.  We just need one more.

Secretary:  Boise on line 1.

Big 12 commish:  Just need one more team.  Maybe Colorado St.  No, they just lost their coach.  Maybe I can entice BYU if I let them keep their network.

Secretary:  Boise on line 1.

Big 12 commish:  Get me BYU on line 2.

 

My joke meter is broken, does this imply the Big 12 thinks they are better than Boise, or that Boise is better than the Big 12?

 

I think it implies that they want to add to cream puffs(or as close to it as possible) and not a team that could fuck some of their team up. . . 

 

 

Spot on.  Does any big 5 conference want Boise?  The last thing anyone wants is Boise to come in and win the conference title the first year.

[Hail Sabin]

Honestly the Big 12 would make the most sense outside of joining the Pac 12.

[EVA]

Nobody is scared of Boise winning their conference. No major conference will give Boise the time of day because they bring nothing to the table in terms of TV markets. Nobody is desperate to add Idaho to their footprint.

[Niners Fan in CT]

you'd have a hard time convincing me that Minnesota is demonstrably better than Cincinnati.

Maybe but we are discussing a common opponent. Ohio St. struggled with Minny while TCU waxed them.

[Tabe]

Nobody is scared of Boise winning their conference. No major conference will give Boise the time of day because they bring nothing to the table in terms of TV markets. Nobody is desperate to add Idaho to their footprint.

The other problem with Boise is that they bring less than nothing to the table in sports other than football.

[BillThompson]

Nobody is scared of Boise winning their conference. No major conference will give Boise the time of day because they bring nothing to the table in terms of TV markets. Nobody is desperate to add Idaho to their footprint.

 

They've proven time and again that not only can they hang with major conference teams, but they can beat them. Should they join a major conference there would be growing pains, no doubt. But, it's naive to think that the major conferences don't look at Boise and say, "Is it really worth bringing them in and possibly knocking off some of our already established top teams?" That's not to say the lack of a TV market doesn't play a role, it's probably the main factor, but there's also a healthy amount of not wanting to lose face to a team that the casual fan still, misguidedly so, thinks of as inferior to every major conference team.

[Brian Fowler]

TCU definitely has the better loss, but do that have a win as good as blowing out Sparty?

[Niners Fan in CT]

TCU definitely has the better loss, but do that have a win as good as blowing out Sparty?

They blew out K-State. I wouldn't say Sparty is that much better. On a neutral field MSU/K-State is a 23-20 type of game.

[Burgundy LaRue]

The committee punished the Big 12 for being giant pussies and declaring co-champions this Ohio St is in to be fed to Bama on New Year's Day.

 

How did I miss this?  Alabama = Ryback.  FEED SABAN MOAR URBAN.

[EVA]

Nobody is scared of Boise winning their conference. No major conference will give Boise the time of day because they bring nothing to the table in terms of TV markets. Nobody is desperate to add Idaho to their footprint.

 

They've proven time and again that not only can they hang with major conference teams, but they can beat them. Should they join a major conference there would be growing pains, no doubt. But, it's naive to think that the major conferences don't look at Boise and say, "Is it really worth bringing them in and possibly knocking off some of our already established top teams?" That's not to say the lack of a TV market doesn't play a role, it's probably the main factor, but there's also a healthy amount of not wanting to lose face to a team that the casual fan still, misguidedly so, thinks of as inferior to every major conference team.

Nobody cares about any of that. It's all about the additional revenue you can bring to the table. If fear of the usurper could keep a moneymaker out of the major conferences, then Utah and TCU wouldn't be where they are today. But both brought something of value to their respective conferences. Utah expanded the Pac-12's footprint and brought in the Salt Lake City market. TCU helped the Big 12 compensate for the loss of A&M in Texas. Boise brings nothing to the table. Plain and simple.

Believe me, as a Southern Miss fan, I'm well aware of the fairytales that fans of quality mid-major programs tell themselves to make themselves feel better about their lot in the grand scheme of things. But its simply not true.

[The Erotic Terrorist]

Now all the bowl matchups are set in stone. They are below in the spoiler tag due to sheer length.

 

R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl
Nevada vs. Louisiana-Lafayette New Orleans
Mercedes-Benz Superdome Dec. 20
11 a.m. ESPN

 

Gildan New Mexico Bowl
Utah State vs. UTEP Albuquerque, N.M.
University Stadium Dec. 20
2:20 p.m. ESPN

 

Royal Purple Las Vegas Bowl
Utah vs. Colorado State Las Vegas
Sam Boyd Stadium Dec. 20
3:30 p.m. ABC

 

Famous Idaho Potato Bowl
Western Michigan vs. Air Force Boise, Idaho
Albertsons Stadium Dec. 20
5:45 p.m. ESPN

 

Raycom Media Camellia Bowl
South Alabama vs. Bowling Green Montgomery, Ala.
Cramton Bowl Dec. 20
9:15 p.m. ESPN

 

Miami Beach Bowl
BYU vs. Memphis Miami
Marlins Park Dec. 22
2 p.m. ESPN

 

Boca Raton Bowl
Marshall vs. Northern Illinois Boca Raton, Fla.
FAU Stadium Dec. 23
6 p.m. ESPN

 

San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl
Navy vs. San Diego State San Diego
Qualcomm Stadium Dec. 23
9:30 p.m. ESPN

 

Popeyes Bahamas Bowl
Central Michigan vs. Western Kentucky Nassau, Bahamas
Thomas A. Robinson National Stadium Dec. 24
Noon ESPN

 

Hawai'i Bowl
Fresno State vs. Rice Honolulu
Aloha Stadium Dec. 24
8 p.m. ESPN

 

Zaxby's Heart of Dallas Bowl
Illinois vs. Louisiana Tech Dallas
Cotton Bowl Dec. 26
1 p.m. ESPN

 

Quick Lane Bowl
Rutgers vs. North Carolina Detroit
Ford Field Dec. 26
4:30 p.m. ESPN

 

BITCOIN St. Petersburg Bowl
NC State vs. UCF St. Petersburg, Fla.
Tropicana Field Dec. 26
8 p.m. ESPN

 

Military Bowl presented By Northrop Grumman
Cincinnati vs. Virginia Tech Annapolis, Md.
Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium Dec. 27
1 p.m. ESPN

 

Hyundai Sun Bowl
Arizona State vs. Duke El Paso, Texas
Sun Bowl Dec. 27
2 p.m. CBS

 

Duck Commander Independence Bowl
Miami vs. South Carolina Shreveport, La.
Independence Stadium Dec. 27
3:30 p.m. ABC

 

New Era Pinstripe Bowl
Boston College vs. Penn State Bronx, N.Y.
Yankee Stadium Dec. 27
4:30 p.m. ESPN

 

National University Holiday Bowl
Nebraska vs. USC San Diego
Qualcomm Stadium Dec. 27
8 p.m. ESPN

 

AutoZone Liberty Bowl
Texas A&M vs. West Virginia Memphis, Tenn.
Liberty Bowl Memorial Stadium Dec. 29
2 p.m. ESPN

 

Russell Athletic Bowl
Oklahoma vs. Clemson Orlando, Fla.
Florida Citrus Bow Dec. 29
TBD Missouri vs. Minnesota

 

AdvoCare V100 Texas Bowl
Arkansas vs. Texas Houston
NRG Stadium Dec. 29
9 p.m. ESPN

 

Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl
Notre Dame vs. LSU Nashville, Tenn.
LP Field Dec. 30
3 p.m. ESPN

 

Belk Bowl
Georgia vs. Louisville Charlotte, N.C.
Bank of America Stadium Dec. 30
6:30 p.m. ESPN

 

Foster Farms Bowl
Maryland vs. Stanford Santa Clara, Calif.
Levi's Stadium Dec. 30
10 p.m. ESPN

 

Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl
No. 9 Mississippi vs. No. 6 TCU Atlanta
Georgia Dome Dec. 31
12:30 p.m. ESPN

 

VIZIO Fiesta Bowl
No. 20 Boise State vs. No. 10 Arizona Glendale, Ariz.
University of Phoenix Stadium Dec. 31
4 p.m. ESPN

 

Capital One Orange Bowl
No. 7 Mississippi State vs. No. 12 Georgia Tech Miami Gardens, Fla.
Sun Life Stadium Dec. 31
8 p.m. ESPN

 

Buffalo Wild Wings Citrus Bowl
Big Ten vs. Missouri Orlando, Fla.
Florida Citrus Bowl Jan. 1
1 p.m. ABC

 

Outback Bowl
Auburn vs. Wisconsin Tampa, Fla.
Raymond James Stadium Jan. 1
Noon ESPN2

 

Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic
No. 8 Michigan State vs. No. 5 Baylor Arlington, Texas
AT&T Stadium Jan. 1
12:30 p.m. ESPN

 

Rose Bowl Game Presented By Northwestern Mutual
College Football Playoff Semifinal
No. 2 Oregon vs. No. 3 Florida State Pasadena, Calif.
Rose Bowl Jan. 1
5 p.m. ESPN

 

Allstate Sugar Bowl
College Football Playoff Semifinal
No. 1 Alabama vs. No. 4 Ohio State New Orleans
Mercedes-Benz Superdome Jan. 1
8:30 p.m. ESPN

 

Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl
Houston vs. Pittsburgh Fort Worth, Texas
Amon G. Carter Stadium Jan. 2
Noon ESPN

 

TaxSlayer Bowl
Iowa vs. Tennessee Jacksonville, Fla.
EverBank Field Jan. 2
3:20 p.m. ESPN

 

Valero Alamo Bowl
Kansas State vs. UCLA San Antonio
Alamodome Jan. 2
6:45 p.m. ESPN

 

TicketCity Cactus Bowl
Washington vs. Oklahoma State Tempe, Ariz.
Sun Devil Stadium Jan. 2
10:15 p.m. ESPN

 

Birmingham Bowl
East Carolina vs. Florida Birmingham, Ala.
Legion Field Jan. 3
1 p.m. ESPN or ESPN2

 

GoDaddy Bowl
Toledo vs. Arkansas State Mobile, Ala.
Ladd-Peebles Stadium Jan. 4
9 p.m. ESPN

 

College Football Playoff National Championship Presented By AT&T
TBD vs. TBD Arlington, Texas
AT&T Stadium Jan. 12
TBD ESPN

[EVA]

Poor South Alabama. You get your first bowl bid in history and you get to go to...Montgomery.

I'd be like, "Nah, we'll just wait till next year."

[Gonzo]

Gophers draw Missouri in the Citrus Bowl. Should be pretty interesting.

[Hail Sabin]

Boca Raton Bowl
Marshall vs. Northern Illinois Boca Raton, Fla.
FAU Stadium Dec. 23
6 p.m. ESPN

 

They couldn't even give them a Bowl that was on Dec 27th or later? Shit before Christmas again for the Thundering Herd.

[Brian Fowler]

Hey, if Marshall had just finished the season off strong, they'd quite possibly be in one of the non-playoff money games.  They didn't get the job done.

 

Instead Boise State gets that slot.

[cubbymark]

Of that massive list of otherwise meaningless bowl games, Go Boston College!

[evilwaldo]

 

 

Nobody is scared of Boise winning their conference. No major conference will give Boise the time of day because they bring nothing to the table in terms of TV markets. Nobody is desperate to add Idaho to their footprint.

 

They've proven time and again that not only can they hang with major conference teams, but they can beat them. Should they join a major conference there would be growing pains, no doubt. But, it's naive to think that the major conferences don't look at Boise and say, "Is it really worth bringing them in and possibly knocking off some of our already established top teams?" That's not to say the lack of a TV market doesn't play a role, it's probably the main factor, but there's also a healthy amount of not wanting to lose face to a team that the casual fan still, misguidedly so, thinks of as inferior to every major conference team.

Nobody cares about any of that. It's all about the additional revenue you can bring to the table. If fear of the usurper could keep a moneymaker out of the major conferences, then Utah and TCU wouldn't be where they are today. But both brought something of value to their respective conferences. Utah expanded the Pac-12's footprint and brought in the Salt Lake City market. TCU helped the Big 12 compensate for the loss of A&M in Texas. Boise brings nothing to the table. Plain and simple.

Believe me, as a Southern Miss fan, I'm well aware of the fairytales that fans of quality mid-major programs tell themselves to make themselves feel better about their lot in the grand scheme of things. But its simply not true.

 

 

But here is the thing, Southern Miss is not a threat to beat anybody?  Boise is in major bowl talk every year and regularly ranked in the Top 25.

 

While they may not bring lots of tv viewers they do bring a lot of national recognition.

[Brian Fowler]

But they don't bring money or a tv market.  Good team?  Yes.  Useful to a Power Five conference?  Nope.

[APO]

National recognition is meaningless is you can't bring in more cash. Fact of life in major college sports.

[Brian Fowler]

Put another way, they wouldn't expand the amount of money the Big XII (or PAC 12) brings in enough to offset the extra slice being taken out of the pie.

 

Although the added money of a conference title game might for the Big XII, but they'd still much rather have a team that makes the league more valuable in and of itself.