odessasteps Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 He said at the start of the segment he was talking about Jillian. The original question was asking Jim working with her, Melina and Beth Phoenix while in OVW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kronos Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Nice find! That's not the segment I originally meant, which was a generic question about implants and safety, etc. He specifically did not mention who he was describing. But this description he uses here about Jillian is spot on from my segment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kronos Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Watching 2/1/93 RAW, and Bruti Beefcake is telling the story of his injuries and sadness - getting his face crushed by a parasailer, burying his parents around the same time, Hogan pulling him back from his despair. (and maybe even saving his life at the accident), etc. Is there any truth to any of this? If his face got crunched, couldn't it have as easily been a drunk driving crash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneybrown Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 The parasailing accident absolutely happened. July 4, 1990. I remember it being a big deal in the Apter mags. Pretty sure Brian Blair was a witness too (and he wasn't in the WWF at the time, so it would be a weird name to throw in there if the story was made up.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Yeah, here’s a short video WWE did about it... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kronos Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, PetrolCB said: Yeah, here’s a short video WWE did about it... Terrific video. Gotta give the guy major props - if I had my face smashed in, I would be terrified of getting hurt in something as physical as rasslin. I am a little unclear about the timeframe, though. 2/19/93 is his big return - there's a clip in this video. He talks about doing the Barbershop to keep from having wrestle. Then it suggests that he interviewed Andre on the Barbershop, among others. But by this episode (or within the next weeks, Andre was dead). Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 23 minutes ago, Captain Kronos said: Terrific video. Gotta give the guy major props - if I had my face smashed in, I would be terrified of getting hurt in something as physical as rasslin. I am a little unclear about the timeframe, though. 2/19/93 is his big return - there's a clip in this video. He talks about doing the Barbershop to keep from having wrestle. Then it suggests that he interviewed Andre on the Barbershop, among others. But by this episode (or within the next weeks, Andre was dead). Weird. The Barbershop was around in ‘91 and ‘92. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 28 minutes ago, Captain Kronos said: Terrific video. Gotta give the guy major props - if I had my face smashed in, I would be terrified of getting hurt in something as physical as rasslin. I am a little unclear about the timeframe, though. 2/19/93 is his big return - there's a clip in this video. He talks about doing the Barbershop to keep from having wrestle. Then it suggests that he interviewed Andre on the Barbershop, among others. But by this episode (or within the next weeks, Andre was dead). Weird. The Barber Shop was in late 91-92. The Raw interview skips over that and when Beefcake was doing run-in's under a mask. He saved Greg Valentine from a double-team attack from Earthquake and Dino Bravo. I believe he also did a run-in during a Rick Martel match. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kronos Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Okay, so they were just shortcutting the story a bit. Good stuff. I am still impressed he came back at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 He's lucky to be alive after that accident. When you see the condition his face was in, it makes the guy yelling "kill yourself" during the Raw interview a lot less funny. It was fucked up regardless, as Beefcake was also talking about his wife leaving him and his parents dying. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kronos Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: the guy yelling "kill yourself" during the Raw interview Bet that dude became an ECW regular attendee. What an asshat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Had never heard that folks thought it was a work. But I was reading the Observer by the time it happened so didnt read about in the mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kronos Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, odessasteps said: Had never heard that folks thought it was a work. But I was reading the Observer by the time it happened so didnt read about in the mags. I didn't think it was a work, necessarily. I was just watching the comeback interview, and I got curious how much might have been exaggerated or embellished - especially when he started talking about Hogan. And then I started to wonder about the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 There was never a storyline or any kind of kayfabe injury to initially explain Beefcake's absence. It was always said to be a parasailing accident. I'm almost positive there was a WWF magazine article about it, which is pretty surprising for the time, as WWF magazine was 100% kayfabe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 I suppose it might have been kayfabed if he had been vacationing with heels and not faces like Hogan and Blair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 I well recall the articles in WON and some horrific pictures from I don't recall where... The dude is lucky to be alive, a couple of inches either way and his skull would've been crushed. I've never been a fan going back to his days as Dizzy Hogan in Portland, but asshats that yell "Kill yourself!" at anyone need to be thrown under a bus and run over repeatedly, there's just no excuse for that, even if they were an ECW mutant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 37 minutes ago, OSJ said: asshats that yell "Kill yourself!" at anyone need to be thrown under a bus and run over repeatedly, there's just no excuse for that, even if they were an ECW mutant. What if it's someone with a reputation like Alberto Del Rio and what came out about him during his relationship with Paige? Surely, it must be ok to yell "Kill yourself" at Invader II. Yes, no, maybe? or people that are/have been open Nazi supporters, like the Harris Brothers? Where does the line get drawn? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Samurai Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Was the facemask a gimmick? He didn't seem to need it in WCW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Yeah, well, probably. I’m sure it perhaps was protection as well as emphasizing the vulnerability of re-injuring himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said: What if it's someone with a reputation like Alberto Del Rio and what came out about him during his relationship with Paige? Surely, it must be ok to yell "Kill yourself" at Invader II. Yes, no, maybe? or people that are/have been open Nazi supporters, like the Harris Brothers? Where does the line get drawn? Much better to throw knives at Invader instead of just yelling at him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetrolCB Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 1 minute ago, OSJ said: Much better to throw knives at Invader instead of just yelling at him. Book him versus New Jack. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSJ Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 1 minute ago, PetrolCB said: Book him versus New Jack. I like your thinking! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerrillaMonsoon Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Don't think the Furface/Mariner gimmick was ever said to be Brutus on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Guy Eddie Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 1 hour ago, RolandTHTG said: Don't think the Furface/Mariner gimmick was ever said to be Brutus on TV. No, it never was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 I spent YEARS wondering about Furface before the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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