2022 HORROR THREAD

[J.T.]

Yeah there were a slew of sea monsters movies around that time.  Deep Rising got the ball rolling in '88 and then DeepStar 6 and Leviathan came out in '89, I think.

The Abyss also came out in '89 and tricked me into thinking that it would be a scary sea monster movie like the others.  It was not, but it was still kinda awesome.

Edited July 26, 2022 by J.T.

[Curt McGirt]

There was also The Rift AKA Endless Descent with R. Lee Ermey, which has been on Comet somewhat recently. I looked it up and man, Ermey was in a lot of horror. 

EDIT: Leviathan even had a "Mac! They got to the blood!" moment just now haha. Amanda Pays makes me feel Cibernetico. 

Edited July 26, 2022 by Curt McGirt

[Curt McGirt]

Christ, they just had a "Richard Crenna activates Mother" moment too 

[Curt McGirt]

Deep Rising was actually 1998. Somehow I never saw that and I would have loved it as a kid. (And speaking of Cibernetico, Famke Jannsen)

[J.T.]

3 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:

Christ, they just had a "Richard Crenna activates Mother" moment too 

Yeah, Doc definitely fell into the Never Trust the Medic or the Science Officer trope born from Alien.

[J.T.]

1 minute ago, Curt McGirt said:

Deep Rising was actually 1998. Somehow I never saw that and I would have loved it as a kid. (And speaking of Cibernetico, Famke Jannsen)

Holy shit, I am old and have dyslexia.

And yeah, Famke Jannsen and the Korean-American actress that played the engineer on Treat Williams's salvage crew both brought the funny feeling.

[Curt McGirt]

There is both a shower scene and a plain old "I get wet" scene with Amanda Pays in this. They knew their audience...

[J.T.]

4 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:

There is both a shower scene and a plain old "I get wet" scene with Amanda Pays in this. They knew their audience...

There was also a bit of fan disservice when they found Lisa Eilbacher's character naked and dead in the shower after committing suicide.

NOOOOOOOOO~!

I remember being pretty bummed about the monster eating the Korean-American actress's character pretty early in Deep Rising.

Edited July 26, 2022 by J.T.

[Curt McGirt]

Shit, I came in too late for that. I wonder if AXSTV censored it. 

EDIT: Oh FFS, Amanda is somehow not wearing shoes even in this. They reduced her back to her skivvies.

Edited July 26, 2022 by Curt McGirt

[(BP)]

Deep Rising is really fun and reads like Stephen Sommers’s audition for The Mummy. It’s also wild that it was originally planned to be the setup for a King Kong franchise.  

[Curt McGirt]

Awww, they killed poor Ernie Hudson, probably the biggest star in the movie, RIGHT AT THE END. And the platform for the ship they got on was named... drumroll...

POC. 

That really doesn't look good these days. Nor does Peter Weller punching Meg Foster instead of Amanda Pays. 

Edited July 26, 2022 by Curt McGirt

[J.T.]

David F. Sandberg (Annabelle:  Creation, Shazam! and Shazam!:  Fury of the Gods) has confirmed that he finally has the time in his schedule to devote to the already greenlit Lights Out 2.   

You may remember that he and his wife, Lotta Losten, were the team that created the original short, Light's Out, that won the Who Goes There? Challenge in 2016 and went on to become a major motion picture that made a lot of fucking money.

He has since gone on to bigger and better things but has always wanted to follow up on the ambiguous ending from the original feature length movie.

Edited July 26, 2022 by J.T.

[J.T.]

2 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:

Awww, they killed poor Ernie Hudson, probably the biggest star in the movie, RIGHT AT THE END. And the platform for the ship they got on was named... drumroll...

POC. 

That really doesn't look good these days. Nor does Peter Weller punching Meg Foster instead of Amanda Pays. 

Killing the black dude right when he was about to survive was total bullshit.

I normally don't condone hitting a woman but Meg Foster's character had it coming.  At the time, I was strangely good with Peter Weller slugging her.  Nowadays, it would be more appropriate if Amanda Pays's character knocked her the fuck out.

[odessasteps]

3 hours ago, J.T. said:

There was also a bit of fan disservice when they found Lisa Eilbacher's character naked and dead in the shower after committing suicide.

NOOOOOOOOO~!

I remember being pretty bummed about the monster eating the Korean-American actress's character pretty early in Deep Rising.

Like the gratuitous shirt ripping of Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio in the Abyss.

[elizium]

Deep Star 6, first ballot VHS Cover Hall of Fame

[Brian Fowler]

Nope has a really bad first hour that goes nowhere and it's way way way too heavy-handed with themes and symbolism.

Then it has a fantastic second hour where it all but throws out everything from the first half to just be one big suspense sequence after another.

Edited July 27, 2022 by Brian Fowler

[J.T.]

19 hours ago, Curt McGirt said:

 EDIT: Oh FFS, Amanda is somehow not wearing shoes even in this. They reduced her back to her skivvies.

My brother and I were laughing about how the director of Underwater pretty much stuck Cthulu in Leviathan and called it a movie.

The diving suits being form fitting is just an excuse for Kristin Stewart and Jessica Henwick to wear as little as possible.  What tiny bits of clothing they have on is always soaking wet and they are also barefoot for most of the movie.

Edited July 27, 2022 by J.T.

[J.T.]

Just when you thought you were dropping Showtime Networks during the current billing cycle.

Yes, there is woke casting of Oskar and I give zero fucks about it.  The show is also supposed to focus more on the relationship between Marcus and Eli (Mark and Eleanor in this version) than it is about Oskar as the protagonist, and I give zero fucks about that as well. 

This looks like it is going to be pretty good, so I will be in until it disappoints me.

The timing of this show also reminds me that we really do need Yellowjackets S2 before we forget everything that happened in S1.

Edited July 27, 2022 by J.T.

[J.T.]

Resurrection

Directed by: Andrew Semans

Starring: Rebecca Hall, Tim Roth, Grace Kaufman, Michael Esper & Angela Wong Carbone

In theaters tomorrow (July 29th), but Shudder is co-producing this with IFC Films so this may also be available in your Shudder queue starting tomorrow.

Rebecca Hall is a force of nature.  She will probably carry this movie on her back across the finish line same as The Night House.

Edited July 28, 2022 by J.T.

[J.T.]

Neil Marshall (The Descent, Dog Soldiers) will a have a new joint out really soon.  It is called The Lair and will star Charlotte Kirk, Mark Arends, and Hadi Khanjanpour.

The Plot:

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When Royal Air Force pilot Lt. Kate Sinclair (Kirk) is shot down over Afghanistan, she finds refuge in an abandoned underground bunker where deadly man-made biological weapons - half human, half alien - are awakened.

It will be in theaters and VoD on October 28th and will stream on Shudder in early 2023.  Not surprising since the movie is produced by Shudder's parent company, AMC Studios / Networks.

[elizium]

Just watched X and that was one disappointing movie. Takes forever to get going. The second half is not nearly crazy enough to make up for the slow first half. The kills are all pretty lame and the last line made me groan out loud. I love A24, but this is a movie that would have benefited from being made by a true low budget production company, to amp up the sleaze and exploitation. Puritanical is a pretty weird term to use for a slasher flick about the making of a porno, but its like they wanted to make a grindhouse movie but were too scared to go all the way.

The opening scene with the preacher on the TV and the cops going into the basement and being shocked by what they see makes you think you're in for some fucked up shit and it just never happens.

I do find it funny that the college kid hired to direct the porno keeps talking about how he's going bring artistic sensibilities to the adult world, but all the scenes we see are the most paint-by-numbers bog standard cliche porno set-ups. That's kind of what this movie is, a paint-by-numbers horror (Creepy old people! Religious imagery that means nothing!) dressed up with arthouse sensibilities. Maybe that's what they were going for, but the director is the most pathetic character in the movie, so you're basically telling your audience that that is who you are.

Edited July 29, 2022 by elizium

[Curt McGirt]

In retrospect I pretty much agree with all that. The sequel looks like it's gonna make up for all that though, in spades. 

[Brian Fowler]

13 hours ago, J.T. said:

Neil Marshall (The Descent, Dog Soldiers) 

At some point we have to stop letting Marshall be defined by those two movies. They were twenty and seventeen years ago, and he's made four movies since then, only one of which wasn't awful (and that one mediocre one was 14 years ago itself.)

[J.T.]

11 hours ago, elizium said:

Just watched X and that was one disappointing movie. Takes forever to get going. The second half is not nearly crazy enough to make up for the slow first half. The kills are all pretty lame and the last line made me groan out loud. I love A24, but this is a movie that would have benefited from being made by a true low budget production company, to amp up the sleaze and exploitation. Puritanical is a pretty weird term to use for a slasher flick about the making of a porno, but its like they wanted to make a grindhouse movie but were too scared to go all the way.

The opening scene with the preacher on the TV and the cops going into the basement and being shocked by what they see makes you think you're in for some fucked up shit and it just never happens.

I do find it funny that the college kid hired to direct the porno keeps talking about how he's going bring artistic sensibilities to the adult world, but all the scenes we see are the most paint-by-numbers bog standard cliche porno set-ups. That's kind of what this movie is, a paint-by-numbers horror (Creepy old people! Religious imagery that means nothing!) dressed up with arthouse sensibilities. Maybe that's what they were going for, but the director is the most pathetic character in the movie, so you're basically telling your audience that that is who you are.

It's true that X builds this Texas Chainsaw Massacre atmosphere that must be satisfied with lots of violence, but TCM was fairly bloodless as we all remember so I don't think that X necessarily needed to be showered with gore in order to be effective.

Additionally, the killers are an elderly couple and Pearl's husband even has a heart condition, so how feasible or believable is it that they would as capable as Leatherhead or Momma Voorhees in delivering quality visceral murders with close quarters slasher movie weapons?  A shotgun is as good as any killing tool in that case.

The filmmaker kid seemed pretty realistic to me.  Most of the pioneers of porn, especially in the '70's, probably thought they were going to do something avante garde and genre bending only for the product to end up looking like plain ol' porn.

Like you, I did have issues with the pacing as the filming of The Farmer's Daughters seemed to take FOREVER, but I think Ti's point may have been to illustrate that porn is a business and like any other business, some parts of it are routine.  The nudity is not very alluring and that totally subverts the relationship that horror fans have with horror movie boobs.

Despite my defense of X, I do not have a terribly high opinion of it.  I am neither thumbs up or thumbs down.  To this day, I still do not know what to make of X and I am not sure if any explanation that Pearl offers will improve or worsen my impression of X.  Some things may be better off left weird.

Edited July 29, 2022 by J.T.

[RIPPA]

House of Darkness

Poor poor stupid horny Justin Long

Directed by Neil LaBute (The Wicker Man, Death at a Funeral (US))

Side note - I had no idea Justin Long and Kate Bosworth were a couple until reading about this movie