[Best OF] 90s DEBRIEF THREAD

[Chaos]

There's so much stuff from the '90s that I am embarrassed that I haven't seen and is why I chose to stay out of the voting process. I for fun might share what my ballot would be based upon what I remember seeing for fun this weekend.

[Kyle Casey]

So let's start with the stuff on my ballot that DIDN'T make the cut:

 

11. A Time to Kill

26. Once Upon a Time in China

29. A Civil Action

31. The Paper

40. Outbreak

42. Chaplin

57. Ninja Scroll

59. The Negotiator

63. A Bronx Tale

64. Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade

67. Deep Impact

69. Ringu

71. Wag the Dog

74. Sphere

75. Malcolm X

76. Get Shorty

77. The Cider House Rules

81. Con Air

82. Broken Arrow

84. Empire Records

85. Hook

86. The Rock

92. That Thing You Do!

93. Mystery Men

94. Stargate

95. The Babe

96. Hackers

98. Payback

99. The Postman

 

Most of those, I understand why they didn't make it. But A Time to Kill? Outbreak? Ninja Scroll? Ringu? Con Air, Hook, The Rock??!? Y'all are fucking up, man...

[Newb82]

MY LIST OF SPECTACULAR. AWESOMESS:

100. Aladdin

99. Halloween 6

98. Stir ofEchoes

97. Big Daddy

96. Cry-Baby

95. Babe

94. Street Fighter

93. Ghosts of Mississippi

92. Murder at 1600

91. The Faculty

90. In & Out

89. Ringu

88. Nightmare Before Christmas

87. Addams Family Values

86. Space Jam

85. Ernest Scared Stupid

84. Miller's Crossing

83. The Glimmer Man

82. Arlington Road

81. Cruel Intentions

80. Hook

79. Bad Boys

78. Home Alone 2

77. The Sandlot

76. Braveheart

75. Mallrats

74. Fallen

73. Cube

72. Star Wars Episode I

71. Billy Madison

70. Speed

69. Big Lebowski

68. Chasing Amy

67. Liar Liar

66. X-Files

65. Face/Off

64. Dogma

63. Ninja Turtles II

62. Wayne's World

61. Pretty Woman

60. Lion King

59. Mrs. Doubtfire

58. Newsies

57. Anywhere But Here

56. Austin Powers

55. 12 Monkeys

54. Apollo 13

53. Army of Darkness

52. Wild Things

51. Can't Hardly Wait

50. Independence Day

49. Office Space

48. Men in Black

47. The Frighteners

46. Defending Your Life

45. Interview with a Vampire

44. Kindergarten Cop

43. Primal Fear

42. Mighty Ducks 2

41. Resvoir Dogs

40. Happy Gilmore

39. The Great White Hype

38. Mortal Kombat

37. Back to the Future III

36. The Sixth Sense

35. New Nightmare

34. Beyond the Mat

33. MST3K: The Movie

32. Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me

31. Batman Returns

30. Clerks

29. Halloween H20

28. The Matrix

27. American Pie

26. Dumb & Dumber

25. Robin Hood: Men in Tights

24. The Addams Family

23. A Few Good Men

22. Ace Ventura

21. Demolition Man

20. Sleepy Hollow

19. Beavis & Butt-Head Do America

18. Sleepers

17. Shawshank Redemption

16. JFK

15. Pulp Fiction

14. Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey

13. Fight Club

12. Home Alone

11. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

10. Forrest Gump

9. Goodfellas

8. Die Hard: With a Vengeance

7. Se7en (As I told RIPPA, I did not do that on purpose.)

6. Groundhog Day

5. South Park

4. Terminator II

3. Jurassic Park

2. Scream

1. Silence of the Lambs

[Fat Spanish Waiter]

We live in a world where Con Air and The Rock aren't on this thing but Face/Off, the weakest of the Holy Trinity is on there.

 

You creepy Japanophiles have shamed this board forever.

[RIPPA]

117 Movies Made This 2nd List that didn't make the first list (granted this list had an additional movies)

 

Movies That Had The Biggest Drop On 2nd List From 1st List

(only movies that made both lists - min 100 spot difference)

 

1st Number is Spot on Current List

2nd Number is Spot on Original List

3rd Number is Number of Spots Dropped

 

Philadelphia 295 64 231

The People vs. Larry Flynt 257 61 196

Carlito's Way 289 100 189

Once Were Warriors 293 114 179

A Simple Plan 317 152 165

Richard III 264 105 159

The Green Mile 255 98 157

Howards End 320 174 146

Shallow Grave 310 171 139

Any Given Sunday 296 164 132

Three Kings 224 97 127

Desperado 238 112 126

Hard Eight 260 138 122

Kids 301 188 113

Dances with Wolves 205 95 110

The Limey 188 87 101

Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey 275 175 100

 

 

 

Movies That Had The Biggest Gain On 2nd List From 1st List 

(only movies that made both lists - min 100 spot difference)

 

1st Number is Spot on Current List

2nd Number is Spot on Original List

3rd Number is Number of Spots Gained (Ignore the minus sign - I was too lazy to make it pretty)

 

The Fifth Element 95 255 -160

Breaking the Waves 113 271 -158

Crumb 63 206 -143

Beauty and the Beast 31 172 -141

Naked 120 258 -138

The Blair Witch Project 125 253 -128

Scream 62 189 -127

Bad Lieutenant 143 268 -125

Trees Lounge 124 246 -122

Starship Troopers 84 200 -116

The Sixth Sense 48 160 -112

Lost Highway 81 191 -110

Cape Fear 103 208 -105

Jurassic Park 23 126 -103

Baraka 101 204 -103

Underground 106 207 -101

Defending Your Life 142 242 -100

Exotica 157 257 -100

 

[Execproducer]

Of the 25 movies I voted for that didn't make the cut, the one that, in hindsight, I should have made my #1 to guarantee it did: The Bride with White Hair  - Ronny Yu, 93

[ohtani's jacket]

Here's my list: 

100. Naked Lunch, David Cronenberg

99. The Woman of the Port, Arturo Ripstein

98. Live Flesh, Pedro Almodovar

97. Hard Boiled, John Woo

96. Toto the Hero, Jaco van Dormael

95. Ladybird Ladybird, Ken Loach

94. A Self-Made Hero, Jacques Audiard 

93. Gabbeh, Mohsen Makhmalbaf 

92. Fast, Cheap & Out of Control, Errol Morris

91. Welcome to the Dollhouse, Todd Solondz

90. Muriel's Wedding, P.J. Hogan

89. Bullets Over Broadway, Woody Allen

88. The Madness of King George, Nicholas Hytner

87. Children of Heaven, Majid Majidi.

86. Happy Together, Wong Kar-Wai

85. Abraham's Valley, Manoel de Oliveira

84. Topsy Turvey, Mike Leigh

83. The Wind Will Carry Us, Abbas Kiarostami

82. Toy Story 2, Ash Brannon, John Lasseter, Lee Unkrich

81. The Match Factory Girl, Aki Kaurismaki

80. A Summer's Tale, Eric Rohmer

79. Sweet Hereafter, Atom Egoyan

78. Eternity and a Day, Theo Angelopoulos

77. After Life, Hirokazu Koreeda

76. Lost Highway, David Lynch

75. Ashes of Time, Wong Kar-Wai

74. Princess Mononoke, Hayao Miyazaki

73. The Double Life of Veronique, Krzysztof Kieslowski 

72. L.A. Confidential, Curtis Hansen

71. The Castle, Rob Stitch

70. Election, Alexander Payne

69. The Big Lebowski, Joel Coen

68. Lone Star, John Sayles

67. Mother and Son, Aleksandr Sokurov

66. Three Colours: Blue, Krzysztof Kieslowski

65. Naked, Mike Leigh

64. My Name is Joe, Ken Loach

63. A Brighter Summer Day, Edward yang

62. The Puppetmaster, Hou Hsiao-Hsien　

61. Exotica, Atom Egoyan

60. Ju Dou, Zhang Yimou

59. Taste of Cherry, Abbas Kiarostami

58. Ratcatcher, Lynne Ramsay

57. The Grifters, Stephen Frears

56. Groundhog Day, Harold Ramis

55. La Belle Noiseuse, Jacques Rivette

54. Farewell My Concubine, Chen Kaige

53. Toy Story, John Lasseter

52. Boogie Nights, Paul Thomas Anderson

51. The Player, Robert Altman

50. Pulp Fiction, Quentin Tarantino

49. Goodfellas, Martin Scorcese

48. Europa Europa, Agnieszka Holland

47. Fargo, Joel Coen

46. Glengarry Glen Ross, James Foley

45. One False Move, Carl Franklin

44. To Live, Zhang Yimou

43. Sonatine, Takeshi Kitano 

42. Chungking Express, Wong Kar-Wai

41. Actress, Stanley Kwan

40. Ulysses' Gaze, Theo Angelopoulos 

39. The Day a Pig Fell Into the Well, Sang-soo Hong

38. Lessons of Darkness, Werner Herzog

37. Life is Sweet, Mike Leigh

36. The Crying Game, Neil Jordan

35. Mr. Death: The Rise and Fall of Fred A. Leuchter, Jr., Errol Morris

34. Brother's Keeper, Joe Berlinger and Bruce Sinofsky

33. Manhattan Murder Mystery, Woody Allen

32. Hoop Dreams, Steve James

31. Colour of Paradise, Majid Majidi

30. The Thin Red Line, Terrence Malick

29. Raise the Red Lantern, Zhang Yimou

28. Shawshank Redemption, Frank Darabont

27. The Blue Kite, Zhuangzhuang Tian

26. Burnt by the Sun, Nikita Mikhalkov 

25. Through the Olive Trees, Abbas Kiarostami

24. The River, Tsai Ming-liang

23. Before Sunrise, Richard Linklater

22. Three Colours: Red, Krzysztof Kieslowski

21. Secrets and Lies, Mike Leigh

20. Wedding Banquet, Ang Lee

19. Close-Up, Abbas Kiarostami

18. A Heart in Winter, Claude Sautet

17. My Own Private Idaho, Gus Van Sant

16. Cyrano de Bergerac, Jean-Paul Rappeneau

15. La Haine, Mathieu Kassovitz

14. Beau Travail, Claire Denis

13. Crumb, Terry Zwigoff

12. Boyz N the Hood, John Singleton

11. Nelly & Monsieur Arnaud, Claude Sautet

10. Shall We Dance? Masayuki Suo

9. Paris is Burning, Jennie Livingston

8. Wild at Heart, David Lynch

7. The Eel, Shohei Imamura

6. Hana-bi, Takeshi Kitano

5. Autumn Tale, Eric Rohmer

4. Eat Drink Man Woman, Ang Lee

3. All About My Mother, Pedro Almodovar

2. Mabarosi, Hirokazu Koreeda

1. Underground, Emir Kusturica 

[caley]

Since no one (not even me) needs to see my full list, here's my Top 30

 

1 The Big Lebowski (Coen, 1998)

2 Heat (Mann, 1995)

3 Fargo (Coen, 1996)

4 Rushmore (Anderson, 1998)

5 Hard-Boiled (Woo, 1992)

6 After Life (Koreeda, 1998)

7 Hana-bi (Kitano, 1997)

8 The Thin Red Line (Malick, 1998)

9 The Legend of Drunken Master (Liu & Chan, 1994)

10 Bringing Out the Dead (Scorsese, 1999)

11 Kikujiro (Kitano, 1999)

12 Office Space (Judge, 1999)

13 Sonatine (Kitano, 1993)

14 Tombstone (Cosmatos & Russell, 1993)

15 Unforgiven (Eastwood, 1992)

16 Chungking Express (Wong, 1994)

17 Fallen Angels (Wong, 1995)

18 Happy Gilmore (Dugan, 1996)

19 The Long Kiss Goodnight (Harlin, 1996)

20 The Shawshank Redemption (Darabont, 1994)

21 Boogie Nights (Anderson, 1997)

22 Fearless (Weir, 1993)

23 Waiting For Guffman (Guest, 1996)

24 Exotica (Egoyan, 1994)

25 La Haine (Kassovitz, 1995)

26 Little Dieter Needs to Fly (Herzog, 1997)

27 Tommy Boy (Segal, 1995)

28 Princess Mononoke (Miyazaki, 1997)

29 Clerks (Smith, 1994)

30 Goodfellas (Scorsese, 1990)

I can't believe 'Tommy Boy', 'Fearless', and 'The Long Kiss Goodnight' didn't make the list!

[Brian Fowler]

Wow, all but one? I'm such a populist, it seems.

[Hollinger.]

Top 30:

1 Jackie Brown

2 Boogie Nights

3 Goodfellas

4 Heat

5 Ed Wood

6 The Shawshank Redemption

7 The Insider

8 Leaving Las Vegas

9 The Silence of the Lambs

10 Reservoir Dogs

11 Fargo

12 The Big Lebowski

13 Rushmore

14 Pulp Fiction

15 Unforgiven

16 Schindler's List

17 Seven

18 Jurassic Park

19 Glengarry Glen Ross

20 Miller's Crossing

21 True Romance

22 Dazed And Confused

23 The Usual Suspects

24 Toy Story

25 Being John Malkovich

26 L.A. Confidential

27 Barton Fink

28 Beautiful Girls

29 Edward Scissorhands

30 Leon: The Professional

[Brian Fowler]

• Jackie Brown

• Beauty and the Beast

• Goodfellas

• Chasing Amy

• Barton Fink

• Pulp Fiction

• Clerks

• The Big Lebowski

• Toy Story

• Dogma

• Batman – Mask of the Phantasm

• El Mariachi

• Unforgiven

• Fargo

• Toy Story 2

• Glengarry Glen Ross

• Tombstone

• Wes Craven's New Nightmare

• Seven

• Groundhog Day

• Terminator 2: Judgment Day

• Fight Club

• Schindler's List

• South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut

• Heat

• Miller's Crossing

• Ed Wood

• Desperado

• Casino

• Titanic

• The Silence of the Lambs

• True Romance

• American History X

• Aladdin

• The Insider

• From Dusk Til Dawn

• Braveheart

• 12 Monkeys

• The Matrix

• The Truman Show

• Quiz Show

• Good Will Hunting

• Resevoir Dogs

• Menace II Society

• The Iron Giant

• A Few Good Men

• Beyond The mat

• The Lion King

• Boyz N The Hood

• Batman & Robin

*Awaits being mocked for his #50, but stands by it.

[Brian Fowler]

Also, my biggest regret of not voting for:  Cruel Intentions.  Can't fucking believe I left it out.

[Fat Spanish Waiter]

VOTES FOR ALADDIN

 

DOES NOT VOTE FOR CON AIR

[The Man Known as Dan]

You put Batman and Robin above fucking My Cousin Vinny?

 

Dead to me.

[The Man Known as Dan]

VOTES FOR ALADDIN

 

DOES NOT VOTE FOR CON AIR

 

Because it's a better movie.

[Brian Fowler]

 

VOTES FOR ALADDIN

 

DOES NOT VOTE FOR CON AIR

 

Because it's a better movie.

 

 

Shit, that was literally word for word how I was going to respond.

 

And...  Fuck, missing My Cousin Vinny is bad form.

[Fat Spanish Waiter]

You guys are absolute wusses. Yeah let's all watch movies with talking parrots and musical numbers over Cyrus the Damned Virus.

[Brian Fowler]

 Let's all watch movies with talking parrots and musical numbers over Cyrus the Damned Virus.

 

Best non-Lions based idea you have ever posted.  Lets all do that.

 

[Fat Spanish Waiter]

It occurred to me shortly after posting - parrots are quite well known for talking.

 

But yeah once again Fowler you've turned your back on the path of righteousness. You're walking alongside Novacain, a known degenerate who is a fan of Chicago teams despite freely admitting to not knowing where Chicago is.

[Brian Fowler]

I have never been a righteous man.

[Fat Spanish Waiter]

I have never been a righteous man.

You were a god damned Bears fan the whole time.

[The Man Known as Dan]

 

 

VOTES FOR ALADDIN

 

DOES NOT VOTE FOR CON AIR

 

Because it's a better movie.

 

 

Shit, that was literally word for word how I was going to respond.

 

And...  Fuck, missing My Cousin Vinny is bad form.

 

 

 

If it makes you feel better, 25 of the 27 voters did.

 

How that is possible, I do not know.

[jaedmc]

For some reason I can't stop thinking about all the movies that should have made it ahead of Contact. I don't know why I'm picking on Contact, but my brain keeps going "TMNT didn't make it but goddamned Contact was #236". "Dangerous Minds is on the outside while Jodie Foster is nice and cozy in the warmth of the countdown."6

[Newb82]

I'm not sure I've seen CON AIR in full, and thus couldn't vote for it.

As I said when this was about to start, if I had decided to make a list in time to actually go back and watch stuff I haven't seen and re-watch stuff I have, my list would have been A LOT different (i.e. no HALLOWEEN 6).

[Newb82]

I really am bitter that TMNT didn't make it. I wonder if it has to with the ages of the voters, as in a lot of them weren't kids during the TMNT craze.