Elsalvajeloco Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 UFC 183: Silva vs. Diaz January 31, 2015 Las Vegas, NV (MGM Grand Garden Arena) Anderson Silva (186) vs. Nick Diaz (185) - No Contest Tyron Woodley (170.5) vs. Kelvin Gastelum (180)** - Woodley, DEC (split) Joe Lauzon (156) vs. Al Iaquinta (156) - Iaquinta, TKO (strikes), R2 (3:34) Thales Leites (186) vs. Tim Boetsch (185.5) - Leites, SUB (arm triangle choke), R2 (3:45) Jordan Mein (169.5) vs. Thiago Alves (171) - Alves, TKO (body kick and punches), R2 (0:39) Fox Sports 1 Preliminary Card: Miesha Tate (135.5) vs. Sara McMann (135.5) - Tate, DEC (majority) Ed Herman (186) vs. Derek Brunson (186) - Brunson, TKO (punches), R1 (0:36) Ian McCall (126) vs. John Lineker (130)* - Lineker, DEC (unanimous) Rafael Natal (185.5) vs. Tom Watson (186) - Natal, DEC (unanimous) Fight Pass Preliminary Card: Richardson Moreira (185.5) vs. Ildemar Alcântara (185) - Alcântara, DEC (split) Thiago Santos (185.5) vs. Andy Enz (186) - Santos, TKO (punches), R1 (1:56) *Chose not to reweigh; forfeits 30% of purse for missing weight**Chose not to reweigh; forfeits 30% of purse for missing weight Event Bonuses ($50,000): Performance of the Night: Thiago Alves Performance of the Night: Thales Leites Fight of the Night: Thales Leites vs. Tim Boetsch Attendance: 13,114 Gate: $4.5 million Buyrate: 650,000 Cancelled Bouts: Diego Brandão vs. Jimy Hettes - Hettes Removed Due to Undisclosed Medical Issue
Craig H Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 Is that Nick looking through a haze of smoke on Jon Jones' coke? 1
JCM Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 I think Spider needs to end this early. Nick is a cardio freak, and who knows how the layoff and injury will effect Anderson. Diaz pushes an insane pace he's not a guy you want to gas against.
glfpunk Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 I can't wait for the next Diaz title shot after he beats Silva and the whining about it.
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 26, 2015 Author Posted January 26, 2015 He might end up fighting someone else in the interim though. I mean I am not ruling out MacDonald-Lombard being a stinker, but I do think whoever wins their title eliminator and doesn't get the shot will be pressured into fighting Diaz. The only way Nick gets one ASAP is if he is injury sub and someone else isn't ready (shit, that can still happen if Andy smokes him). However, I think Anderson probably wins this one easily so I'm not thinking of anymore crazy ass scenarios at 170 or 185.
Guest Edwin Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 I can't believe anyone thinks Nick beats Anderson. Also that's another solid main card, plus McCall/Lineker should be a very good prelim fight.
Jiji Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 Yep, they're putting together some really strong cards to start off the year. Some not-quite-as-stacked cards coming up but 185 looks really good.
Hail Sabin Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 Two fights I'm really interested in Silva vs. Diaz and McMann vs. Tate which is free which makes me happy. At the present time it's doubtful if I will buy the ppv but things could change.
glfpunk Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 I can't believe anyone thinks Nick beats Anderson. Also that's another solid main card, plus McCall/Lineker should be a very good prelim fight. At the very least I'm sure this is not the same Anderson Silva that you're thinking of in your head regardless of how far off of that guy he is. It's a longshot but I don't ever count out Nick in a standup fight. He's not going to lay on top of Nick for the whole fight which is what Nick's losses consist of. You've never seen him knocked out, it will be a fight in my opinion.
J.T. Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 My enjoyment of this fight will depend on Anderson not acting like a fucking clown after the bell rings and Diaz smoking at least one bowl before his ring entrance.
epwar Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 Yeah, it sucks that the biggest variable for me in Anderson winning is "will he act like an idiot in the fight?"
Guest Edwin Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 I can't believe anyone thinks Nick beats Anderson. Also that's another solid main card, plus McCall/Lineker should be a very good prelim fight. At the very least I'm sure this is not the same Anderson Silva that you're thinking of in your head regardless of how far off of that guy he is. It's a longshot but I don't ever count out Nick in a standup fight. He's not going to lay on top of Nick for the whole fight which is what Nick's losses consist of. You've never seen him knocked out, it will be a fight in my opinion. The best striker he's fought was Paul Daley and he got dropped and almost finished. Anderson is much bigger and stronger than Daley and if he rocks Nick he's going to finish the fight.
J.T. Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 If murderous Anderson Silva shows up then yeah. If silly Anderson Silva shows up and sleeps on Nick Diaz's jab, then no. I would like to think that in the interim since the two Weidman fights, Silva is going to walk into the octagon with a chip on his shoulder and looking to send a message at the expense of Nick Diaz's cranium, but I have been proved wrong before.
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 26, 2015 Author Posted January 26, 2015 I can't believe anyone thinks Nick beats Anderson. Also that's another solid main card, plus McCall/Lineker should be a very good prelim fight. At the very least I'm sure this is not the same Anderson Silva that you're thinking of in your head regardless of how far off of that guy he is. It's a longshot but I don't ever count out Nick in a standup fight. He's not going to lay on top of Nick for the whole fight which is what Nick's losses consist of. You've never seen him knocked out, it will be a fight in my opinion. The best striker he's fought was Paul Daley and he got dropped and almost finished. Anderson is much bigger and stronger than Daley and if he rocks Nick he's going to finish the fight. More importantly, the last southpaw he fought (Zaromskis) dropped him. That fight will be five years old this Friday. Before that, the last true southpaw Nick Diaz faced was Katsuya Inoue in May 2008. He has fought 11 orthodox fighters and one southpaw (the aforementioned Zaromskis) who fights right handed a lot subsequently. I was watching that fight and he isn't landing the jab. He's missing and going to the body instead. That's against a much smaller, less skilled guy. Moreover, it's smaller, less skilled guy who was willing to actively engage against him. I know Nick has fought from the orthodox stance before, but is Anderson Silva the guy you want to change your style against just to land a jab?
Craig H Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 If Anderson is back to 100%, I can't see Nick being quick enough to tag Silva.
glfpunk Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 The best striker he's fought was Paul Daley and he got dropped and almost finished. Anderson is much bigger and stronger than Daley and if he rocks Nick he's going to finish the fight. Everyone has their opinion but I don't think it makes a ton of sense to back your argument up with a fight that Nick won by first round TKO. Prime 100% Anderson probably dances around and makes Diaz miss and pretty much has his way with him striking and is able to finish the fight at any point he wants to. My point of view is that it's highly unlikely that you will see that same Anderson Silva again. It will most likely be good enough to win but like I said, I wouldn't completely discount Nick's chances.
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 26, 2015 Author Posted January 26, 2015 Prime 100% Anderson probably dances around and makes Diaz miss and pretty much has his way with him striking and is able to finish the fight at any point he wants to. My point of view is that it's highly unlikely that you will see that same Anderson Silva again. It will most likely be good enough to win but like I said, I wouldn't completely discount Nick's chances. Well, he is fighting a guy whose style allows him to do that. The whole first round, if it isn't a blowout, might just be mostly Nick Diaz taunting. The thing is Anderson has never been this slug it out, Fight of the Night type fighter. Everyone of those fights where he did go full bore ended in a finish (win or loss) save for the Maia fight. Not saying this fight is completely safe from being that type oddity, but I think Nick's best chance to win the fight also is what can get him knocked cleaned out.
Guest Edwin Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 The best striker he's fought was Paul Daley and he got dropped and almost finished. Anderson is much bigger and stronger than Daley and if he rocks Nick he's going to finish the fight. Everyone has their opinion but I don't think it makes a ton of sense to back your argument up with a fight that Nick won by first round TKO. Prime 100% Anderson probably dances around and makes Diaz miss and pretty much has his way with him striking and is able to finish the fight at any point he wants to. My point of view is that it's highly unlikely that you will see that same Anderson Silva again. It will most likely be good enough to win but like I said, I wouldn't completely discount Nick's chances. I only used the Daley fight as an example, because despite having never been KO'd before, he's gotten hurt and dropped by various opponents smaller and weaker than Anderson.Didn't even Gomi hurt and drop him a couple of times in their fight? Yes, I know that was many years ago, but it just proves my point that if those smaller guys could drop him, imagine what a much bigger fighter can do to him.
Zero Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 Weren't there rumors of Silva getting knocked out in training?
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 26, 2015 Author Posted January 26, 2015 Weren't there rumors of Silva getting knocked out in training? When? He "knocked out" his sparring partner Douglas Moura on some Globo clips but I haven't heard the opposite.
Cowboy Wally Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 Only odd thing I saw was Silva's attack of Lumbago(severe back pain) that put him in the hospital (very short time) in November.
epwar Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 Here is the rumor of Anderson getting KO'd in training: http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum_framed.posts&forum=1&thread=2408208&page=1&pc=41
Elsalvajeloco Posted January 27, 2015 Author Posted January 27, 2015 Yeah, I'm reminded why I don't go the UG. That was a whole lot of nothing. 1
Joe Lucia Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Nick Diaz is apparently doing Nick Diaz Shit again and is in the wind.
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