Robert Posted May 21, 2014 Author Share Posted May 21, 2014 Match was just Star Jr. being insane. So much fun! Horrific logic though since that spot occured 2 minutes in & he was back doing flying moves a minute later. Not to mention he crashed just as bad on the tornillo later but no-sold it & that finishing spot. But he's a teenager. Tearing apart matches with teenagers is probably a sign you need a new hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Idolo match with maestros was pretty good, albeit a tad sloppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Schneider Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I have been reviewing the entire tourney over at SC. I agree with Robert about Dragon Lee, I think he has been as impressive as the other three finalists. He has been the only guy I have seen get anything impressive out of Guerrero Negro Jr. for example. It is funny the final rankings are exactly the order I would rank them in if you asked me. Good job CMLL voters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 The Cachorro/Dragon Lee match last night was crazy. A tope to start the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted May 31, 2014 Author Share Posted May 31, 2014 I thought both matches last night were excellent. Dragon Lee/Cachorro did the all out spotfest we've come to expect & Cavernario/Hechicero worked a great no death spots match where Cavernario got super over with the crowd. I don't think I've ever changed my opinion on a guy as quick as Dragon Lee. When the qualifying Torneo Cibernetico finished I hated the fact he made it in and was pissed they'd probably give him the tournament due to his family instead of letting Hechicero win it. Now that we're down the final 4 I'd actually like to see Dragon Lee win the entire thing. Hechicero making it to the finals will be good enough & could establish him as Dragon Lee's main rival which will instantly elevate him. Cavernario is the complete package - he doesn't need the win. Cachorro could use the win but he'll get over in other ways & has built-in feuds waiting. No promotion has a better crop of youngsters right now than CMLL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Schneider Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I will rewatch them when I get to that week in my review, but I was a little disappointed. I liked both of the initial matchups more then the rematches. They were both good, but I loved the first Lee v. Cachorro and Hechicero v. Cavernario matches so much that I was hoping to see them exceeded. I agree with Robert on Dragon Lee, he isn't a guy I had an opinion on before, but he has been great and has all the promise in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 From Cubsfan: Mistico/Sin Cara's new name is Myzteziz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Okay I don't keep up with this but at 2:00 in the morning I finally saw a 6-man with Cancerbero and two other guys (Raziel? Euforio?) and Star Jr. and some other guys that Dean always pimps and the shit was amazing. It is owning the match with the Casas kids that is now on (Black Panther, Cachorre, Valiente vs. Felino and who the fuck knows). Please let me know what both matches are plus dates tomorrow, I will love you forever. EDIT: this is the match where the Blue Panther kids stomp the fuck out of the Casas kids... I think. It's late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecubsfan Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Cancerbero, Hechicero, Raziel vs Dragon Lee, Pegasso, Star Jr. Black Panther, Cachorro, Valiente b Felino, Puma, Tiger Both taped 2014-01-21, aired 01-25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 For those following along with En Busca De Un Idolo... The final is Hechicero vs ? ? will be decided completely by fan balloting open until Tuesday or Wednesday. Since the three remaining guys are so close in points it'll come down to whoever finishes 2nd to Hechicero in fan polling this week. My theory is CMLL wants Cavernario to be in the final since they had him beat Dragon Lee. BUT they could have just done that in some back asswards logic to make sure the other finalist wouldn't be guaranteed until they can announce it on their lame 80's style studio show this Wednesday on Terra. Dangerous logic there as no guarantee Dragon Lee finishes 2nd in fan polling. You would think they'd have learned from two years ago when they wanted Dragon Lee (Mistico II) to win but they had him lose so many times it cost him the final due to us stuffing the balloting for Titan (who won). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Schneider Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Hechichiro vs. any of those guys will be great, I just hope the match gets some time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Virus vs Fuego yesterday was pretty good. Fans threw money in the ring afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubbymark Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 So then, who should we stuff the ballot for in Busca De Un Idolo this time around? Cavernario has a great gimmick, Dragon Lee is better than Misticlon, and Cachorro has been nothing short of awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 Last I checked Cachorro was way ahead because someone stuffed his vote totals. But I was alerted recently things changed and now everyone is bunched together... which is fine since I was gonna start stuffing it for Dragon Lee if they hadn't. Personally, I want Dragon Lee vs Hechicero. I wouldn't be unhappy with either of the other two but gun to my head if you forced me to pick that's how I would go. Unless of course CMLL wants to get creative and jump into the year 2014 to do some sort of wacky triangle match with Cavernario included. Phil, the final should get all the time it needs. Very quiet show Friday. If you look back at the history of the tournament Angel De Oro/Polvora in 2011 went almost 30 minutes back in a 2/3 fall final. It was 1 fall in 2012 when Titan beat Euforia in a MOTYC that got nearly 15 minutes & last year Vangelis beat Valiente in just over 10 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 vote CACHORRO! And vote often ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted June 18, 2014 Author Share Posted June 18, 2014 Hechicero vs Cavernario it is. The tiebreaking match, one fall, no time limit. Strong signs point to Cavernario being the favorite but we'll see. We all thought our votes getting Titan to the final in 2012 would mean nothing since CMLL could book their own winner in Euforia but they actually booked Titan to look amazing in that match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Really good match to end Busca de un Idolo. I hope all the final four get some kind of push out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Being CMLL, how likely is that? I fear the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlPG Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Hechicero vs Cavernario in the final was a nice little match. Nice end to a fun series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share Posted June 21, 2014 Not done yet! The annual Torneo Cibernetico is next Friday with Casas/Virus leading their original 4 trainees. Thought the final last night was real good. Was super impressed by Hechicero who kept Cavernario in check after he crashed on the cornerpost tope suicida spot. You could see Cavernario (being a real young kid) wanted to get right up & just go on with the match they had planned but Hechicero slowed him down & made sure things didn't completely fall off the rails. He played a great rudo the entire match and the fans were totally into Cavernario including doing the "ooh ooh ooh" chants (which sound like boo's but are not). There were a couple real good nearfalls at the end & I was shocked when the crowd reacted to Cavernario's finisher before he even had it hooked on. Shows people have been following the tournament and are connection with the new guys. Should also be noted it was a real big crowd for the final. So whoever says you can't get new guys over needs to get their head checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted June 23, 2014 Author Share Posted June 23, 2014 I actually didn't realize this was a non-TV show when I went crazy on twitter so kinda bummed now but still cool to note next Sunday in GDL CMLL is running Solar/Valiente vs Negro Casas/Negro Navarro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRV Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 A friend asked whether there is a specific name for lucha tag rules, anyone have a clue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecubsfan Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Video games tend to call them "captain rules", but I don't think lucha libre itself has any special name for the rule set. It's just the normal rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I have to admit, I get way more spanish banner ads now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubbymark Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 A friend asked whether there is a specific name for lucha tag rules, anyone have a clue? CMLL announcers generally refer to six man tags as "relevos australianos" meaning Australian rules tags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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