AA484 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 The definition of a 50/50 call. If it gets counted a down and Usyk doesn't beat the count, we'd be having just as much (if not more) controversy about how it was a missed call. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Man, you forget how good the second Golota vs Bowe fight was. Golota could have absolutely been champion of the world if he had any brain at all. https://youtu.be/SEQKd0lu_VY?si=4m_dAJdhhOLmfYbZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted September 7, 2023 Author Share Posted September 7, 2023 That damn common sense will get you every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T. Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 What are everyone's thoughts about Fury vs. Ngannou on 28 October? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted September 19, 2023 Author Share Posted September 19, 2023 Tyson Fury really needs the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 2 hours ago, J.T. said: What are everyone's thoughts about Fury vs. Ngannou on 28 October? My thoughts... It would be fucking awesome if Francis won. But Anderson Silva lost a boxing match to Jake Paul so I no longer believe a god will allow us such happiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted September 19, 2023 Author Share Posted September 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, jaedmc said: My thoughts... It would be fucking awesome if Francis won. But Anderson Silva lost a boxing match to Jake Paul so I no longer believe a god will allow us such happiness. Jake Paul is also young enough to be Anderson's son. Vitor Belfort beat up almost 60 year old Evander Holyfield. Freak show fights are going to be just that. Based on the fights Fury has had since the last fight with Wilder, I don't think he has any interest in taking anymore difficult fights at this stage of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said: I don't think he has any interest in taking anymore difficult fights at this stage of his career. I don't know if you saw him with his shirt off at the last face off...but I would say you're on to something here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted September 19, 2023 Author Share Posted September 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, jaedmc said: I don't know if you saw him with his shirt off at the last face off...but I would say you're on to something here. To be fair, even in awful shape, he probably can beat most top HWs fairly easily by just boxing. He wasn't ever Mr. Olympia. That said, he's at a point where we may see precipitous decline in overall skill. Guys like Mayweather and Canelo can be skilled fighters over several years cause they never had a bunch of bad habits. Fury has battled weight mismanagement and drug use for years. You can't do that forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Honestly, Fury coming into this fight with a little more flab(compared to the Wilder fights) does more to sell this match than any shit talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted September 19, 2023 Author Share Posted September 19, 2023 1 hour ago, jaedmc said: Honestly, Fury coming into this fight with a little more flab(compared to the Wilder fights) does more to sell this match than any shit talking. The curiosity factor is the only thing that sells this. Beyond that, it isn't much to work with. At with Mayweather vs. McGregor, you that along with the groundswell of ardent McGregor fans who refuse to believe he didn't have a chance. There are folks who probably think Ngannou could win but only if (a) Fury is just so out of shape and past it and (b) walks right into a punch by just being generally careless. That's really ideal if you want casuals to care. Yeah, I expect there to be decent interest but not next level interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 My thought is that it is sad Francis has to leave UFC and take this fight to be paid fair value, but go get that money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 I can't stand Fury so my interest in it is minimal. Even if he somehow manages to get knocked down which I doubt, the Wilder fights make me think they'll give him a 25 count to get up anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) Just seen Zhilei Zhang vs Joe Joyce 2. What a right hook punch by Zhang and the smacking sound from it. That puts down a lot of heavyweights. No wonder Big Bang is his nickname. That 40 year old has power. Edited September 24, 2023 by The Natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 28 minutes ago, The Natural said: Just seen Zhilei Zhang vs Joe Joyce 2. What a right hook punch by Zhang and the smacking sound from it. That puts down a lot of heavyweights. No wonder Big Bang is his nickname. That 40 year old has power. JuggerNotAnymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death From Above Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Yeah that was an easy night's work for Zhang. Honestly Joyce looked pretty worried from the second Zhang started throwing and never really troubled him. Why he came in 25 pounds heavier I cannot begin to fathom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 ...to better cushion his fall to the mat? Unfortunately for Joyce, for some fans, this is gonna be a bit of a confirmation bias. I think a lot of people pegged him as being already too old, too slow, and too inefficient to really do anything. The Dubois win was his shining moment. Even though we got multiple titles, he got the short end of the stick cause the ABCs are not really going to make certain guys defend their belts when they already have fights set up. Without the HBOs of the world, a guy like him is not going to make any money sitting on the sidelines waiting. He fought the wrong guy and then decided for some reason to fight him again. Those are the breaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaedmc Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 After a long lay off, one of my favorite pass times has returned: watching the guy who has to hold Francis Ngannou's pads during workouts. 3 minutes in, he let's out a grunty "Yes, sir" that let's you know that there can never be enough padding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted September 27, 2023 Author Share Posted September 27, 2023 4 hours ago, jaedmc said: After a long lay off, one of my favorite pass times has returned: watching the guy who has to hold Francis Ngannou's pads during workouts. 3 minutes in, he let's out a grunty "Yes, sir" that let's you know that there can never be enough padding. I believe the pad holder would be Dewey Cooper, who Sean Strickland made some very intriguing and eye opening comments about some months ago regarding his training of Marvin Vettori. I never heard someone be as candid and scathing yet somehow clear minded in a critique of a trainer. That's saying a lot considering it is Sean Strickland. It is like he did not want to bash him, but it had been playing on his mind for awhile so he had to let it go. I suggest checking out the video of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaedmc Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 45 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said: I believe the pad holder would be Dewey Cooper, who Sean Strickland made some very intriguing and eye opening comments about some months ago regarding his training of Marvin Vettori. I never heard someone be as candid and scathing yet somehow clear minded in a critique of a trainer. It is like he did not want to bash him, but it had been playing on his mind for awhile so he had to let it go. I suggest checking out the video of that. I missed that. It's very odd. Sean and Francis both work with Nicksick at Xtreme Couture, and Nicksick and Cooper corner Francis together. It sounds like they're still working together leading up to this Fury fight. According to Nicksick in an interview after the Adesanya win, Francis has mostly been working with a boxing coach out of France and Dewey. And I guess, more recently, Mike Tyson for youtube videos. And when Strickland made those comments, it seemed like Vettori was doing the same thing as Ngannou, working with both coaches. So I don't know what that drama is, but it sounds like there had to have been an awkward conversation not long after. Though, if we're being honest, every conversation with Sean is kinda awkward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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