Spritenaut 32 4,590 Posted February 27, 2017 On 2/25/2017 at 4:29 PM, RIPPA said: vs. El Phantasmo (ECCW - 1/14/17) Really dug this match, and it's turned around my thinking on this play-in. I should probably change my vote.... ...to El Phantasmo. He should probably be in the round of 64. Spoiler O'Reilly still doesn't do much for me. I feel like, if the WWE ever signed him, he'd be treading water in NXT somewhere beneath Tye and the Drifter) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oyaji 7,789 Posted February 27, 2017 He's all but signed for NXT. I think he's just waiting out his ROH contract or there's some legal bullshit holding him back for the time being. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIPPA 29,792 Posted February 27, 2017 If I remember what Meltzer said correctly his ROH contract runs out In April so that is when he will officially be signed (same with Raymond Rowe) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J.T. 9,094 Posted February 27, 2017 Kyle O'Reilly is no small hurdle for Bayley to leap over, but it is doable. And yeah, I demand a Play-In for El Phantasmo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Technico Support 7,351 Posted February 27, 2017 Stupid question but are there supposed to be voting buttons here? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIPPA 29,792 Posted February 27, 2017 20 minutes ago, Technico Support said: Stupid question but are there supposed to be voting buttons here? Not until March 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Technico Support 7,351 Posted February 27, 2017 1 minute ago, RIPPA said: Not until March 1 Thanks! I was worried it was my browser or the skin. or that I'm old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Sweetser 2,927 Posted February 27, 2017 4 hours ago, J.T. said: Kyle O'Reilly is no small hurdle for Bayley to leap over, but it is doable. And yeah, I demand a Play-In for El Phantasmo. Sadly, El P's probably never making it stateside due to border issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RIPPA 29,792 Posted February 27, 2017 It's getting to the point where I could run a tournament of guys not allowed in the US 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NikoBaltimore 3,425 Posted February 28, 2017 O'Reilley is mainly all about wrestling, and he's pretty good at it. Once he got away from Davey I tended to appreciate him more. And generally his NJ and ROH stuff is mostly pretty great. But wrestling is all he's good at as he doesn't have the other factors that make me care about the guy. But his lack of personality or reason to care about the guy don't give me much reason to vote for him. As for Bayley, admittedly her eligible year isn't as good as the previous. And while I'll never vote against her I'm sure not far into this she's going to lose. But I just can't justify her losing to O'Reilly. Unlike Kyle, Bayley gives me reason to care about what she's doing. She's not as good of a wrestler, but her character and connection with the crowd can't be ignored. In this matchup I'd rather go with the person that makes me care about what they're doing and Bayley's that person. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oyaji 7,789 Posted February 28, 2017 Kyle O'Reilly is better at selling desperation in his matches than Bayley is, so I think that counts in sucking people in emotionally to a match. It's probably a strength of both though, as Bayley does the scared puppy dog eyes and repeated strikes against the likes of Jax but Kyle's killer desperation is more believable to me. It's as if he's fighting for his life. He even does stuff like slobber on himself late in match to show the exhaustion and desperation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NikoBaltimore 3,425 Posted February 28, 2017 Good points, but I'm a sucker for the puppy dog eye approach over slobbering over oneself. Factoring in what's done outside the ring (promos, Twitter feed, backstage stuff, etc.) she gives more reasons to be invested in what she's doing. Kyle has great matches, but I can't recall the last time I went out of my way to see one unless it was part of a show I was watching live. I just have a hard time caring about the guy and to me stuff like that matters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marty Sugar 2,077 Posted February 28, 2017 One of my favorite matches of 2016 was on ROH TV from July, when Kyle got injured by Bullet Club and still insisted on fighting Lethal for the World Title. A really fun match with a great little story around Kyle being injured and Lethal not wanting to cripple Kyle...but not wanting to lose the title, either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caley 3,021 Posted February 28, 2017 On Monday, February 27, 2017 at 8:28 AM, Technico Support said: Stupid question but are there supposed to be voting buttons here? THANK YOU for asking this because I've been too afraid of someone going "That's not how it works, STUPID!" or "There are voting buttons, why can't you see them?!" for me to ask! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J.T. 9,094 Posted March 1, 2017 12 hours ago, caley said: THANK YOU for asking this because I've been too afraid of someone going "That's not how it works, STUPID!" or "There are voting buttons, why can't you see them?!" for me to ask! I guess you guys figured out that voting started today. The last few days have just been debate / converse / discuss time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
