The Natural Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Craig H said: What. The. Fuck. And not because he took out a glass eye because I used to work with a dude with one and it was no big deal, but Bisping has had a glass eye this whole fucking time? How in the fuck do you keep that a secret? Everyone knew his eye was fucked up and he said it would be messed up for life, but the motherfucker actually had to have it removed?!??!? What the fuuuuuuuuuuck? All of the above. Holy. Fuck. That's one tough fucker. Edited October 4, 2019 by The Natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Give Bisping the BMF Belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 The fight we've all been waiting for...(Spoilered to contain the excitement.) Spoiler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 7, 2019 Author Share Posted October 7, 2019 With Combate being the MMA promotion with the 2nd best TV ratings now, that might have done a decent buyrate at a more realistic retail price (10 to maybe 20 dollars max). At forty bucks a pop, it's going to bomb as hardcore as all these other non UFC PPVs. That price point is reflective of how much they're paying these two guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiztor Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 if that squash match is the main event, what kind of jobbers do they have rounding out the card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 I mean they might sign one or two people that folks may have heard of, but it's going to look like a prototypical Bellator card from the early, early days. That's the model that they use. They are catering to a Mexican and Mexican-American fanbase with the second target demo being the general Latino market at large. They just signed Thunder Rosa to a MMA contract. They legit might do Sexy Star vs. Thunder Rosa in a MMA fight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 16 hours ago, supremebve said: The fight we've all been waiting for...(Spoilered to contain the excitement.) Reveal hidden contents Double KTFO be the ideal outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, The Natural said: Double KTFO be the ideal outcome. Tito Ortiz is going to beat him like a fucking drum, and then celebrate like he just beat Mike Tyson in 1989. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 Campbell McLaren's business model seems to be: 1. Run shows on TV with many local regional fighters no one has ever of. 2. Cancel shows due to poor ticket sales. 3. Draw inexplicably good ratings on Univision. 4. Sign Mexican luchadores to fight in MMA. 5. Pay Tito Ortiz a huge sum of money to beat up Alberto del Rio/El Patron on a PPV not many people will watch. 6. ??? 7. Profit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Oh, dear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 Needless to say, I'm going to wait until this becomes more concrete before I start an event thread. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 IMHO Joanna should not try to force a weight cut if it's risky. We know weight cutting is dangerous. She has never failed to make weight but she did have a weight cutting issue in the past. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 That's the problem when you put a big strawweight who can easily fight at flyweight against essentially an atomweight fighter. Even if Joanna makes weight, you essentially have two fighters separated by an entire weight class. It's not even a Viviane Araujo vs. Talita Bernardo situation where the smaller fighter is so much more talented than the heavier fighter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 10, 2019 Author Share Posted October 10, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) Michael Bisping's Wikipedia entry has been updated: Edited October 11, 2019 by The Natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 hour ago, The Natural said: Michael Bisping's Wikipedia entry has been updated: I'm skeptical that he fought for 4 years with a glass eye. One of the pre-fight medical tests that they do is to flash a light into your eyes to see if your pupils dilate. I can see fooling one person, maybe two people, but the amount of people he'd have to fool to fake his way through that test for four years is absurd. He fought 11 fights in 7 different countries after the Belfort fight, and none of them did that test right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 I don't see New York letting it happen at all. They wouldn't let Jessica Aguilar fight in Utica in 2018 because they thought she had some infection on her lips. They are not about to let Bisping fight with a glass eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said: I don't see New York letting it happen at all. They wouldn't let Jessica Aguilar fight in Utica in 2018 because they thought she had some infection on her lips. They are not about to let Bisping fight with a glass eye. Seriously, an eye injury is the one thing that will immediately stop a fight. Thiago Santos fought with two destroyed knees, and no one thought they should stop the fight. Jeremy Stephens, Donald Cerrone, Randy Couture get an eye injury and the fight is called right then and there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) And that's not to say palms can't be greased if we're talking about pre-existing conditions coming into the fight. Cotto-Margarito II went from MSG to the Landers Center in Southaven, MS back to MSG all within the course of a few days. So New York was willing to let Antonio Margarito fight compromised with a bad eye. However, with that said, the issue came up and that was still years before pro MMA was legalized in NY state. And when the UFC made those lobbying efforts to get it legalized, they basically agreed to any and everything New York wanted if you will remember. Hence, why you got a shitshow in terms of regulation for the first handful of UFC in NY cards. You had Rashad Evans get removed from UFC 205 due to a brain irregularity he had been fighting with for a long time. You also had breast implant-gate with Pearl Gonzalez at UFC 210 in Buffalo. My larger point is the issue would be raised and made public right around the time it was known. If Bisping had a glass eye several years ago, we would know as soon as he fought for a reputable commission whether it's in California and especially when he tried to get licensed in New York state. This wouldn't be a discovery in 2019. Edited October 11, 2019 by Elsalvajeloco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said: And that's not to say palms can't be greased if we're talking about pre-existing conditions coming the fight. Cotto-Margarito II went from MSG to the Landers Center in Southaven, MS back to MSG all within the course of a few days. So New York was willing to let Antonio Margarito fight compromised with a bad eye. However, with that said, the issue came up and that was still years before pro MMA was legalized in NY state. And when the UFC made those lobbying efforts to get it legalized, they basically agreed to any and everything New York wanted if you will remember. Hence, why you got a shitshow in terms of regulation for the first handful of UFC in NY cards. You had Rashad Evans get removed from UFC 205 due to a brain irregularity he had been fighting with for a long time. You also had breast implant-gate with Pearl Gonzalez at UFC 210 in Buffalo. My larger point is the issue would be raised and made public right around the time it was known. If Bisping had a glass eye several years ago, we would know as soon as he fought for a reputable commission whether it's in California and especially when he tried to get licensed in New York state. This wouldn't be a discovery in 2019. Bingo. If it was one or two fights, in places where regulation was a little sketchy, I could see it...but it's too many people involved for it never to have come up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, supremebve said: Bingo. If it was one or two fights, in places where regulation was a little sketchy, I could see it...but it's too many people involved for it never to have come up. I can even see Mike Mazzulli (head of the ABC and longtime Mohegan Sun/Tribe commission athletic director) who helps regulate Bellator shows outside the US and when they run Indian casinos call that out. When the UFC runs the North region of Brazil which has been the MMA wild wild west for several years with motherfuckers making up their own MMA record, the UFC (w/ the help of CABMMA or whomever) runs a fairly tight ship. So Bisping would have be fighting in like Yellowknife or some clandestine place where they never have MMA fights on the regular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiztor Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 i'd like to see a large MMA company put on a tag team mma match. before we get started, the novelty of the concept intrigues me. i don't think it would be very popular, it would be awkward to promote, and harder still to regulate. but here's my thoughts. -the commission would have to sanction each competitor to face each opponent singles style. each fighter must also meet the weight limit -when a tag is made, the ref stops the action, separates the fighters (the non-tagger moves to a neutral corner), and they both start standing. -no interference/2-on-1s/tag team moves allowed. Rizin, this would need to take place in a ring so i'm looking your way. thoughts/criticisms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Re: The Bisping eye, apparently that's a prosthetic that he wears over the eye. You can tell right as he takes it out that it's flat on one side if you look close. At least, that's what a buddy of mine has said and it appears so 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 3 hours ago, twiztor said: i'd like to see a large MMA company put on a tag team mma match. before we get started, the novelty of the concept intrigues me. i don't think it would be very popular, it would be awkward to promote, and harder still to regulate. but here's my thoughts. -the commission would have to sanction each competitor to face each opponent singles style. each fighter must also meet the weight limit -when a tag is made, the ref stops the action, separates the fighters (the non-tagger moves to a neutral corner), and they both start standing. -no interference/2-on-1s/tag team moves allowed. Rizin, this would need to take place in a ring so i'm looking your way. thoughts/criticisms? I know ZST did it years ago and most recently, I've seen it in I wanna say some Eurasian promotions. It always devolves into madness. It also doesn't help that you went from two not-so-good fighters to four potentially not-so-good fighters in the same area. So it basically looks like an offensive line vs. a defensive line after the ball is snapped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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