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Now I like that fight a lot. Grappling will probably be the difference maker.

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23 minutes ago, Oyaji said:

Now I like that fight a lot. Grappling will probably be the difference maker.

It's interesting that this fight is on ESPN and not like a PPV opener or second from the top because the UFC loves to have Waterson in that spot. I guess they feel that Waterson may be better utilized on TV like the PVZ fight that did a good rating than on PPV.

Re: UFC 237. According to Globo, that is a good chance it takes place at Arena da Baixada. That's pretty big faith for Jessica Andrade's drawing ability. Maybe there is a chance the ex Chute Boxe folks like Shogun and Cyborg will reprise their roles from UFC 198.

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Rani Yahya will be taking on Ricky Simon at UFC 234.

I knew Rani won more than he lost, but I had no idea he was 11-3 in the UFC.

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Both John Lineker and Ion Cutelaba are out of their bouts next week.

Thomas Almeida vs. Marlon Vera has been added to UFC 235.

 

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Some time back, I made a comment about Brazilian MMA being so hard to find in terms of footage on Youtube and this explains why and more...

In short: The MMA bubble burst in Brazil after the UFC had some successful events and the death of Leandro Souza forced CABMMA's hand, the promoters weren't ready at all, and now regional MMA in Brazil is going back to a dark period. This also explains why so many Brazilian fighters are going over to Russia just to get murked. I remember when NY state was on the verge of legalizing pro MMA and Lou Neglia made similar complaints that all these guys are making about CABMMA. Neglia was ready to host his events in New York after promoting for several years out of New Jersey and the legalization of pro MMA in New York based on New York's standards would make it cost prohibitive to run Ring of Combat events there. I think what happened in Brazil was the promoters being too reliant on sponsors when it was clear there was a window that was eventually going to close, regardless of Combate following CABMMA or the Reebok deal. You're betting that the UFC can keep folks like Anderson Silva and Vitor Belfort and the like from a previous era relevant enough when it was extremely obvious even five years ago, they were way closer to the end of their career than the beginning. UFC 134 was a watershed moment for Brazilian MMA and UFC 142 was suppose to be the start of a new era. However, I don't think the people who consumed UFC at that moment where going to be the same people that kept the Brazilian MMA bulb at the regional level bright. The top fighters from 2007 to 2012 got to be celebrities and everyone else were just MMA fighters who happened to be good. So if the latter didn't become the former before that window closed, there would be nothing to keep people excited. From that, sponsors would gradually disappear and so would the TV coverage. Now that the UFC is exploring other parts of South America, it has put the onus on the Brazilian promoters to be accountable. I think people see through facade of the record building, therefore, forcing them to develop and cultivate actual talent and not just fighters who train under them. I see it getting worse before it gets better.

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The UFC is working on Edson Barboza vs. Justin Gaethje and Anthony Pettis moving to 170 to fight Wonderboy Thompson for the 3/23 card in Nashville.

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1 hour ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

The UFC is working on Edson Barboza vs. Justin Gaethje and Anthony Pettis moving to 170 to fight Wonderboy Thompson for the 3/23 card in Nashville.

Okamoto just tweeted that Barboza vs. Gaethje would be on the Philly card the week after.

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Seems like a bad fight for Barboza. Gaethje is the most pressure fighter of all pressure fighters and that's what Edson has always struggled with. 

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17 hours ago, Oyaji said:

Seems like a bad fight for Barboza. Gaethje is the most pressure fighter of all pressure fighters and that's what Edson has always struggled with. 

Except he's a pressure fighter who eats a shitload of shots, which isn't how you beat Edson Barboza.  I actually think this is the right fight for both guys.  I think both guys have clear paths to victory in this fight, but both could end up unconscious.  

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Oh yeah, I've argued for a long while that Gaethje's porous defence is what will stop him from being a great LW but he's yet to use much of his wrestling. I wonder if he will try to take some shots to get in either a clinch or go for a takedown. His footwork is also pretty poor for a pressure fighter so he may not be able to get inside until it's too late. But his pressure is unrelenting, so it'll be fun to watch that one play out. 

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I can honestly see either guy winning. The only thing I would be shocked with is it going the distance (I guess pun intended since it's being made for Philly).

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