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Do a lot of feds still disassociate with Kanemura? One would think so.

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I wouldn't think so, I mean TARU is getting work again.  I think Kanemura at this point is just worn down so the large promotions wouldn't have any need for him, history or not.  I mean he has wrestled in ZERO1, WNC, in some Joshi promotions, and in Tenryu's promotion since the scandal, that is probably his 'cap' at this stage of his career either way.

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I think Ryota Chikuzen is the Kyushu Wrestling Federation main guy. I know he fought Bob Sapp in a wrestling match at a MMA show in Kyushu called Legend 5 last year and I believe he was a representative for them. I believe I read results for their shows like 10 years ago and I believe Chikuzen headlined them all.

 

I believe those Student Wrestling Summits are frequent events which I know feature a guy who used to copy CIMA many years ago called BIMA.

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BIMA has been in DDT for a number of years now as Soma Takao.

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Chikuzen is with Kyushu Pro, who have a bunch of recognisable faces (well, mostly masks) whereas KWF have a watermelon-themed Vader knockoff who seems to be called Super Boot Vader. His entrance headgear looks like spray painted cardboard. He's great.

 

Their designated Tiger gimmick guy is called Tiger Nishiyama.

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I was wondering about some of the small indies in Japan. I keep an eye on the photo albums at http://blog.livedoor.jp/namkabuan/  he goes to a lot of shows and takes a lot of photos, so check that out. Can anyone give me any information on any of these organisations?

-HEAT-UP

-ZERO

-Student Wrestling Summit (through google translate, it's also tagged NUWA and UWF)

-Pacific Ocean Wrestling

-Matsue Dandan Pro Wrestling (MDPW)

-Otachi Pro (OPG)

-Kyushu Wrestling Federation (KWF)

-Tottori Darazu

 

Is Secret Base still running? Style-E?

 

Was the "WISH Fight of the ring" event at the Shin-Kiba 1st Ring venue on the 11th just a one-off charity thing?

 

Any information on any of this would be appreciated, I've found a few of these promotions on youtube too, and don't know who anyone is, are there results sites that cover these guys?

 

Dunno if this is helpful but:

HEAT-UP http://heat-up.biz/

Student Wrestling Summit: http://gpws2014.blog.jp/

Pacific Ocean Wrestling: https://twitter.com/pacificproresu

Matsue Dandan Pro Wrestling (MDPW): http://www21.atpages.jp/matuedandan

Oretachi Pro (OPG): http://www.nh-kr.com/opg

Kyushu Wrestling Federation (KWF): http://puroken-blog.jugem.jp/

Tottori Darazu: https://www.facebook.com/pages/%E9%B3%A5%E5%8F%96%E3%81%A0%E3%82%89%E3%81%9A%E3%83%97%E3%83%AD%E3%83%AC%E3%82%B9/105923179529542

 

KWF is a university student fed.

Oretachi Pro is originally a student fed? Seems to mainly run shows in Okayama.

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Cheers for  the links. Google translate is melting my brain the last few days. Worse/better is that I found a list of another 20 or so promotions.

 

Tottori Darazu and MDPW are running a show with Big Japan on the 20th, did the last one - 22/9/13 show up online anywhere?

 

Hyper Chosu Aihara seems to be an English teacher, described as "dump truck that is not got the brake". There only appears to be a handful of his matches online. I'm crushed.

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I think that dump truck screwy translation has something to do with an old Stan Hansen nickname or they just used the same term because I saw that when translating some stuff about him once.

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Yeah, some of the translations are something else. I'm thinking of doing short write-ups for each of these groups - and eventually, all the indies in my swollen bookmarks tab - but the translation stuff, even just with names, is brutal.

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Yeah, it's a lot of trial and error and using things that just give you the pronunciation of the kanji sometimes helps. At least for names.

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Cheers for  the links. Google translate is melting my brain the last few days. Worse/better is that I found a list of another 20 or so promotions.

 

Tottori Darazu and MDPW are running a show with Big Japan on the 20th, did the last one - 22/9/13 show up online anywhere?

 

Hyper Chosu Aihara seems to be an English teacher, described as "dump truck that is not got the brake". There only appears to be a handful of his matches online. I'm crushed.

 

 

Tottori Darazu has a youtube channel.

 

Or they are on the facebook page for Tottori Darazu. You just have to keep scrolling down.

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I have the youtube channels for most of them, I just didn't think to search for the 22/9 show as anything other than a BJW show, stupid me, they have at least some of it on the Tottori Daraz channel. Thanks.

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What's the deal with all the student feds? Just uni wrestling clubs running shows? Some of them look alright.

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I think that dump truck screwy translation has something to do with an old Stan Hansen nickname or they just used the same term because I saw that when translating some stuff about him once.

 

From Hansen's Japanese wiki page: ブレーキの壊れたダンプカー

Whereas Hyper Choshu Aihara's is ブレーキの着いていないダンプカー

For Hansen it's a truck with broken brakes and for Aihara it's a truck with no brakes. I think.

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What's the deal with all the student feds? Just uni wrestling clubs running shows? Some of them look alright.

 

Yeah, that's what it looks like. They even have their own page on the Japanese wikipedia.

Unfortunately the link at the end of the article is old.

They seem to be very parody heavy. Not surprisingly some DDT guys came out of student feds.

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did the Masakatsu Funaki vs Manabu Soya Triple Crown match ever air or circulate online? And if anyone has actually seen it: is it awesome?

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What's the deal with all the student feds? Just uni wrestling clubs running shows? Some of them look alright.

 

Just untrained kids running free shows. It's the equivalent of backyard wrestling here. Yes, backyard wrestling in Japan is run smoother than some actual legit promotions elsewhere.  They'll wait outside bigger shows and hand out glossy, full color fliers. Aki Shizuku on this: 

 

"After your debut, you started wrestling in Gaku-puro. What did you learn by doing that? What is the difference between Gaku-puro and professional wrestling?

 

Gaku-puro wrestlers are not a professional and are not athletes.  Their physical ability and strength is at the level of ordinary students. Therefore, it is most important that they use ingenuity and make characters that utilizing their own unique abilities. They are university students, so they have an academic approach to puroresu. “The first phase of puroresu is to introduce myself to the audience”, was the advice from a member of Temple Puroresu that affected me the most. I had experience in women’s professional wrestling organization and similar basic skills, but I had no skills to tell audience about my unique advantage. After getting that advice, I actively incorporated certain moves, leading to my own style now. If there was no encounter with Gaku-puro, the present version of myself would not exist."

http://www.dirtydirtysheets.com/2011/10/25/aki-shizuku-the-dirty-dirty-sheets-interview/

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There's some actual athletes that have done it, so that's a bit misleading. Saying Tanahashi wasn't an athlete is a bit of a misnomer.

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did the Masakatsu Funaki vs Manabu Soya Triple Crown match ever air or circulate online? And if anyone has actually seen it: is it awesome?

Definitely aired, never showed up online.

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I get that the student guys aren't professional, but watermelon Vader looks like he would destroy me in physical strength terms.

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can anyone help me understand how wrestling in Japan makes money? some shows like DDT and BJW have 32+ workers, plus referees, travel,etc. and draw 200-350 in a gymnasium. I can't imagine Japanese promotions are paying they're guys a hundred a show. Are ticket prices higher? Is pay averaged over a whole tour and the small shows are a "were traveling in the middle of nowhere, May as well set up the ring and make something" situation? Is merchandise a big draw?

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I agree with you, but that isn't just Japanese wrestling, it is all wrestling.  I've wondered before how smaller promotions in the US or Canada make any money either.  All I can guess is the wrestlers are paid a lot less than we think they are, and/or they sell more DVDs than we are thinking and once they are made DVDs are virtually all profit these days (the cost of a DVD/the case is low and in Japan DVDs cost 30 to 50 bucks a pop). Rent for the building would be a lot lower in smaller areas, so even with a few hundred people if they purchase some DVDs and (also expensive) T-Shirts it must be viable or they wouldn't be able to keep doing it.

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I think BAHU it was mentioned a couple of pages in this thread ago that the BJW guys were getting paid around $200-$300 matches for death matches or something similar along those lines and MASADA claimed he wasn't making that much money and was sleeping in the BJW dojo floor when he toured with them, but don't quote me on that.

 

I'm sure a lot of the money wrestlers make is mostly based on merchandise they sell at arenas and some of them do other work for the organization and other have jobs aside from being wrestlers.

 

I know for example Ryuta Sawada who's a very young MMA fighter from Japan goes to school and works at a ramen shop aside from training at the AACC gym and fighting in VTJ and Shooto.

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