Cobra Commander Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 despite our urges to find bullpen moves to blame this game on.. Phillies/DBacks is tied late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 On Leyland, who I like... He had a starting rotation in 2014 that included four guys who have Cy Young trophies, and all five have World Series rings, and none of them won it in Detroit. (JV, Scherzer, Price, Porcello, and Sanchez) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Brian Fowler said: On Leyland, who I like... He had a starting rotation in 2014 that included four guys who have Cy Young trophies, and all five have World Series rings, and none of them won it in Detroit. (JV, Scherzer, Price, Porcello, and Sanchez) He also had a 6th starter (Drew Smyly) who won a ring for not-Detroit. And a HOFer (Cabrera) in his prime. And the MVP runner-up. And on and on and on. And they got swept in the first round. Edited October 20, 2023 by Tabe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Brian Fowler said: On Leyland, who I like... He had a starting rotation in 2014 that included four guys who have Cy Young trophies, and all five have World Series rings, and none of them won it in Detroit. (JV, Scherzer, Price, Porcello, and Sanchez) 25 minutes ago, Tabe said: He also had a 6th starter (Drew Smyly) who won a ring for not-Detroit. And a HOFer (Cabrera) in his prime. And the MVP runner-up. And on and on and on. And they got swept in the first round. leaving aside that I think Brian intended to post about Leyland in the other thread... Brad Ausmus managed the 2014 Tigers, not Jim Leyland. There's other playoff failures that you can pin on Leyland. 2014 was Brad Ausmus living off of what he inherited. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 47 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said: leaving aside that I think Brian intended to post about Leyland in the other thread... Brad Ausmus managed the 2014 Tigers, not Jim Leyland. There's other playoff failures that you can pin on Leyland. 2014 was Brad Ausmus living off of what he inherited. Don't be bringing facts into my nonsense arguments. I'm just bitter. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawful Metal Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 we got playoff drama with a big homer and an intentional HBP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 and after all that, the Astros hit a go-ahead homer in the 9th to take a 3-2 lead going to Houston for games 6/7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contentious C Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Man, fuck the Astros. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 meanwhile postgame, the Astros are saying that the Garcia HBP "woke the Astros up" so basically punching a guy and claiming his reaction motivated you also if you could get a guy ejected for being mad that you hit him with a pitch, that's a gamble that some teams would take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Throwing at a guy for payback in a two run game in a tied playoff series is stupid. Wait for some one-sided game against them next season to settle dumb grudges. Like the Braves will do with Harper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 this being the MLB Suspension Wheel Of Justice, will the appeal on the reliever's suspension be heard before the end of the Astros season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 thrilling night of baseball as relief pitchers are now bad at their jobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 18 hours ago, Cobra Commander said: this being the MLB Suspension Wheel Of Justice, will the appeal on the reliever's suspension be heard before the end of the Astros season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 The only surprise with Matt Bush getting fined and barred from sitting on the bench for the rest of the series is that Matt Bush didn't end up trying to assault Dusty. But I guess Matt wasn't drunk during the game so he wasn't in his "assault the elderly" mood. This series of events doesn't really seem to dissuade guys from intentionally hitting others. One of these days, i'd like to see a catcher get ejected or fined during all this because we know the pitchers aren't just going rogue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Whoops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawful Metal Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 What about the suspension for the maniac shoving an umpire around and escalating a situation? And Abreu had no control during the AB before Garcia. It’s a 2 run game. Why in the world would anyone be ok with intentionally hitting someone? It’s stupid. It wasn’t intentional. Dipshit Garcia putting his hands on the umpire? Intentional. And what kind of bitch goes after the catcher and not the pitcher? Almost as if Garcia knew it wasn’t intentional and just reacting to Maldonado’s trash talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabe Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Lawful Metal said: What about the suspension for the maniac shoving an umpire around and escalating a situation? And Abreu had no control during the AB before Garcia. It’s a 2 run game. Why in the world would anyone be ok with intentionally hitting someone? It’s stupid. It wasn’t intentional. Dipshit Garcia putting his hands on the umpire? Intentional. And what kind of bitch goes after the catcher and not the pitcher? Almost as if Garcia knew it wasn’t intentional and just reacting to Maldonado’s trash talk It was 100% intentional. C'mon. "I was just trying to go up and in" is what the pitcher said - mind you, the catcher is setup for a pitch on the outer half. The pitch was in the middle of the battery's box. Pitcher also had no negative reaction as one would expect from drilling someone in a close game. Garcia and Maldonado have history, hence Garcia thinking Maldonado ordered it. Did "the Astros" (Dusty) order it? Nah. It's a close game. But it was 100% intentional. Not even a question. ALL SIX umpires agreed it was intentional. And, yeah, Garcia probably should've gotten something for touching the umpire. Edited October 22, 2023 by Tabe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Hitting a guy with a first pitch fastball after he hit a big home run against you is gonna merit a raised eyebrow at the very least, especially hitting him around the letters (on the arm) Abreu getting 2 games is less than he would have gotten if he did it during the regular season (Luis Perdomo got 3 games for hitting Manny Machado this year). I'm guessing MLB doesn't want to set a precedent that you can just do whatever in the postseason and not get suspended because it's the postseason Meanwhile in the actual game tonight, Martin Maldonado drops his elbow into the way of a 1-0 fastball which is a reminder that if you don't care enough about your body, you can reach base a few extra times because the umps don't call it if you lean into a pitch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Playoff drama of Abreu striking out Garcia in the 8th, followed by Abreu allowing an RBI double to put the Rangers up 4-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 57 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said: Meanwhile in the actual game tonight, Martin Maldonado drops his elbow into the way of a 1-0 fastball which is a reminder that if you don't care enough about your body, you can reach base a few extra times because the umps don't call it if you lean into a pitch. It was unavoidable, but the overreaction of the Houston fans on that was clown shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Just now, John from Cincinnati said: It was unavoidable, but the overreaction of the Houston fans on that was clown shit. to be fair, some of those fans have free stuff from Mattress Mack riding on the outcome of this postseason, so they're invested 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 LeClerc didn't give up go-ahead homers in back to back games meanwhile we get extra postseason drama of "Chapman didn't pitch in a spot where he very obviously shouldn't pitch" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Commander Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Adolis Garcia's night: 1 for 5 with 4 strikeouts and a grand slam. That's certainly a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Cincinnati Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Garcia’s getting roasted in Houston for as long as he draws breath, love to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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