Elsalvajeloco Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 TBH I haven't watched a single second of non-event Bellator programming aside from 2 or so episodes of Fightmaster.
epwar Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Yeah, they did a Rampage show but it was only like 4 episodes. He is insane.
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Ariel Helwani @arielhelwani now I'm told Bellator has not released Jackson from his contract. Jackson maintains they were in breach. UFC deal was signed a couple days ago.
TheVileOne Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Ballsy move by the UFC. Seems somewhat risky. Then again, I haven't looked over Rampage's contract.
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Scott Coker @ScottCoker now17 seconds ago Let us be clear that Quinton "Rampage" Jackson is under an exclusive contract with #BellatorMMA. We will protect our contractual rights We bout to get real litigious in this bitch.
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Ariel Helwani @arielhelwani 56s56 seconds ago I'm told the main issue here is Rampage is claiming Bellator refused to provide the PPV #s for the Lawal fight … Ariel Helwani @arielhelwani 36s36 seconds ago … which they were contracted to do. So when that became clear, he terminated the contract. More in here: http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/12/20/7429221/rampage
TheVileOne Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Didn't they announce 100,000 buys and didn't Bellator and Viacom claim those numbers were accurate? Not sure if that will hold up in court.
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 There may be something in his contract that stipulates they personally provide him with the official numbers.
epwar Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Rule #1 in a contract dispute: Don't put your faith in Rampage knowing what the hell he is talking about. 3
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 If you're getting paid based off the # of buys a PPV does, they can't tell you "Go look it up on the internet" after the fact. That's not gonna fly. 1
Hollywood Cibernetico Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Is the UFC doing this on purpose so that they look like less of a monopoly when Bellator win back Rampage? Will this somehow help their case?
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Is the UFC doing this on purpose so that they look like less of a monopoly when Bellator win back Rampage? Will this somehow help their case? Maybe. Who knows? However, I think the monopoly issue is just part of the whole case.
glfpunk Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Rampage is beyond finished as a main card fighter. I don't know why UFC would have any interest in him and why anyone would even care.
Joe Lucia Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 I don't think that "legends division" or whatever you want to call it is that bad of an idea. Dump the guys like Rampage, Shogun, Hendo in there, let them pop a rating. I mean, it's better than CB Dollaway, main eventer, right?
glfpunk Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 That wouldn't be a bad idea. It's better than putting these older guys in with fighters at the top of the division. Of course, getting any of these fighters to admit they don't have what it takes to compete at the top of their division anymore is a whole different story.
Hollywood Cibernetico Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 But Henderson has proven not to be a draw so I highly doubt Henderson being separate will do anything. I think UFC should cut its losses with guys like Rampage, Shogun, and Henderson. As UFC is keeping them around, I prefer if those 3 fighters (and the Noguerias) are relegated to fighting only guys in ranked 11-20 ( I know UFC has a public ranking of 15). I think that will be a more interesting use then pretending these guys are draws. Nogs and Shogun in Brazil perhaps and Rampage on a smaller stage, but Henderson has proven not to be a draw and its getting pretty sad to watch him fight.
Wrangler Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Finally we can have that highly anticipated rematch against Ryan Bader.
smitlick Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Rampage is a draw. That's why the UFC want him. It's like saying why would they sign Punk. If you don't get either of the signings your silly. People are far more likely to watch a Fox card headlined by Rampage compared to one headlined by Benson Henderson etc.
glfpunk Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 UFC 144 did 375k buys UFC 135 did 520k buys UFC 130 did 300k buys He is not a draw anymore. Further he finished his run in the UFC with 3 straight losses and hasn't had a significant win in over 4 years. It's over for that dude in terms of being competitive and being a draw.
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Benson is a bad example. Rampage vs. M'Pumbu peaked at 1.1 million (880k avg.). Benson vs. Thomson peaked at 4.4 million (3.1-3.2 mil avg.).
doubtingELDANDY Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 UFC 144 did 375k buys UFC 135 did 520k buys UFC 130 did 300k buys He is not a draw anymore. Further he finished his run in the UFC with 3 straight losses and hasn't had a significant win in over 4 years. It's over for that dude in terms of being competitive and being a draw. I could see a Rampage drawing intrigue from casual viewers (is that even a thing in MMA anymore?) on a FOX main event. I'm assuming he want all his fights on PPV though, so he can get points.
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 UFC 144 did 375k buys UFC 135 did 520k buys UFC 130 did 300k buys He is not a draw anymore. Further he finished his run in the UFC with 3 straight losses and hasn't had a significant win in over 4 years. It's over for that dude in terms of being competitive and being a draw. I could see a Rampage drawing intrigue from casual viewers (is that even a thing in MMA anymore?) on a FOX main event. Yes.
username Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Even if he is not a massive UFC draw, he is likely a pretty big draw by Bellator standards. That is reason enough for UFC to try and get him back.
glfpunk Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Next they will sign Tito Ortiz, have him fight Rampage and then release both of them ruining Bellators biggest fight lol.
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