Zheroen Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 Since there's an established and objective method of determining who "wins" a gaming conference, one should use that reasoning to dismiss another's opinion of what won it for them.
Big Fresh Posted June 17, 2015 Author Posted June 17, 2015 Of course not. It's no Shenmue. So you're saying you're excited about the game?
Death From Above Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 A little bummed there's no actual gameplay of Total War; Warhammer. It must still be ages off. The PC show has been all over the map, maybe too much.
Big Fresh Posted June 17, 2015 Author Posted June 17, 2015 Since there's an established and objective method of determining who "wins" a gaming conference, one should use that reasoning to dismiss another's opinion of what won it for them. I'd agree if "for them" was used in the original discussion, but it wasn't. We're talking about 2 different things.
Brian Fowler Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 Of course not. It's no Shenmue. So you're saying you're excited about the game? A little. I'll probably pick it up. (I haven't been this excited about a game in years. Although Square Enix could have topped it with two words.)
Craig H Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 It's nice people want to play Shenmue 3. Tons of money can get pumped into it and then, as expected, it will be ok, it will sell poorly, and then people will bitch and wonder why there is no part 4. This game or series is ripe for that prediction. It's also funny Zheroen is getting all pissy about this. Hey true believer, you keep liking what you want to like. Meanwhile, we're perfectly allowed to not understand or not even like that thing. 1
Death From Above Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 Of course not. It's no Shenmue. So you're saying you're excited about the game? A little. I'll probably pick it up. (I haven't been this excited about a game in years. Although Square Enix could have topped it with two words.) "Ogre Battle" is the correct answer, but I'm wondering what yours were?
Brian Fowler Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 That exactly DFA, and I was banking on you to get it. 1
Big Fresh Posted June 17, 2015 Author Posted June 17, 2015 Of course not. It's no Shenmue. So you're saying you're excited about the game? A little. I'll probably pick it up. (I haven't been this excited about a game in years. Although Square Enix could have topped it with two words.) Ummmm, "The Bouncer 2" is 3 words. 1
Death From Above Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 I would drop everything I am doing for a new Ogre Battle but I am sort of resigned that it will never happen. If RPG Maker wasn't such a total piece of shit program, I'd just build a new one myself just for me. 1
Brian Fowler Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 Seriously, if Square had just had a guy walk out and say "Ogre Battle" and leave, and that was their entire presentation, they'd have won E3. 1
Craig H Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 They probably wouldn't have because again, it's a game appealing to a niche audience. This is to not say anything about Ogre Battle, which is a great game, but popularity wise, FF7 is more popular and it's not as if the remake of it moved mountains or anything. I also am not sure how you do a turn based strategy game like that on a console in this generation.
Zheroen Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 It's nice people want to play Shenmue 3. Tons of money can get pumped into it and then, as expected, it will be ok, it will sell poorly, and then people will bitch and wonder why there is no part 4. This game or series is ripe for that prediction. It's also funny Zheroen is getting all pissy about this. Hey true believer, you keep liking what you want to like. Meanwhile, we're perfectly allowed to not understand or not even like that thing. Can you also provide the winning lottery numbers?
Brian Fowler Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 They probably wouldn't have because again, it's a game appealing to a niche audience. This is to not say anything about Ogre Battle, which is a great game, but popularity wise, FF7 is more popular and it's not as if the remake of it moved mountains or anything. I also am not sure how you do a turn based strategy game like that on a console in this generation. Since I'm the sole and arbitrary judge, yes, yes they would have.
Big Fresh Posted June 17, 2015 Author Posted June 17, 2015 I also am not sure how you do a turn based strategy game like that on a console in this generation.
Brian Fowler Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 Is XCOM turn based strat? Because that would interest me some. But the thing about Ogre Battle is that it's a hybrid of strat and traditional rpg. I'd gladly take a new Tactics Ogre though. Or, hell, FF Tactics II would be nice. 1
Death From Above Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 Craig, I agree with you that it's too niche a series to see the light of day again. I never expect to see the series brought back, realistically. I just wish that wasn't so. EDIT: And I think Tactics Ogre is the weakest of the three, by a huge margin. To me the SNES game is the most perfect expression of an idea executed in a smiple-yet-amazingly-deep way that was ever done. It can never be replicated or duplicated, nor am I sure it would even make sense if you weren't there to see it. *clutches his memories*
Craig H Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 Yep, you're right. Silly me. It's only been more than a decade since the second one, which was OK and didn't sell well enough to justify a part 3 until now and that's only with a kickstarter. Look at the landscape of video games and franchises. You need to perform really fucking well or have a company throwing it's full weight behind you to have staying power. Shenmue, as a game and series, is not a grand franchise that is going to generate the type of money and attention to necessitate additional sequels. It didn't before and it won't again. Again, this does not mean it's a bad game or someone is wrong for liking it. I liked Firefly and Serenity too, and that shit isn't seeing the light of day on a movie screen ever again. Some franchises are just like that.
Brian Fowler Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 Hey, Square... Try kickstarter. Pretty please?
Big Fresh Posted June 17, 2015 Author Posted June 17, 2015 Is XCOM turn based strat? Because that would interest me some. YUP! And it has huge RPG elements too. I never played Ogre Battle, so I can't tell you how close it is to that, but it does sound like something you'd love.
Death From Above Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 Also this PC gaming conference has been a huge bomb. This is the boring college lecture of E3 2015, way to break the stereotype there gentlemen.
Craig H Posted June 17, 2015 Posted June 17, 2015 Then again, there have been EIGHT fucking Yakuza games, so who knows. I can only assume that those sold well enough in Japan, but the Japanese market isn't what it once was. Certainly not enough to fully support Shenmue.
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