Eivion Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 The onyl floppy I have been reading is Detective Comics. Everything else has been via trade through libraries and only Batman remains out of those. 11 hours ago, D.Z said: Batman Beyond Does this sell well? I really thought it would have died by now. Still annoyed they killed the book actually based on the DCAU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Eivion said: The onyl floppy I have been reading is Detective Comics. Everything else has been via trade through libraries and only Batman remains out of those. Does this sell well? I really thought it would have died by now. Still annoyed they killed the book actually based on the DCAU. I either read comic books as singles/floppies or the trades from my library. My library has a great selection, fairly recent also. Edited August 16, 2020 by The Natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Eivion said: The onyl floppy I have been reading is Detective Comics. Everything else has been via trade through libraries and only Batman remains out of those. Does this sell well? I really thought it would have died by now. Still annoyed they killed the book actually based on the DCAU. What book was that? I forgot to mention one shots and mini series will still happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odessasteps Posted August 16, 2020 Author Share Posted August 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Eivion said: The onyl floppy I have been reading is Detective Comics. Everything else has been via trade through libraries and only Batman remains out of those. Does this sell well? I really thought it would have died by now. Still annoyed they killed the book actually based on the DCAU. There is a new BTAS universe book that was digital only when it started. It may have been reprinted by now, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 3 hours ago, D.Z said: What book was that? There used to be a DCAU based Batman Beyond book that started out digitally. Even led to JL book from the same time frame. It noticeably died when they decided to do a main universe version of Batman Beyond. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Lot of people think there will be a DC relaunch, but Jim Lee said months ago they wouldn't do that. If something's not working out they will just switch up the creative teams like comics used to do. I guess they could use higher renumber gimmick as well. Also they wouldn't mention removing 27 to 20 percent of the ongoing line for good just to expand the line again. But we will see anyways. Characters who don't have books will show up here and there like Supergirl. DC Fandome is soon... so more news will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 (edited) There won't be a relaunch until things a fixed at AT&T/Warnermedia. Even then depending on how long that takes and how things go with their current push we may not see one, or it may take a different form from the usual. Edited August 17, 2020 by Eivion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario Hobb Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 On 8/15/2020 at 7:46 PM, D.Z said: So far these all the books left for the direct market and the ongoing main universe : Justice League Batman Detective Comics Batman/Superman Superman Action Comics Green Lantern Legion of Super-Heroes Flash Wonder Woman Catwoman Nightwing Justice League Dark Aquaman Batman Beyond Red Hood Maybe JSA. List doesn't count Ogns, digital, other lines, out of canon books. Am I reading this right? The main DC line consists of less than a dozen and a half titles? I had no idea things were this bad. I sorta follow comics but not much. Haven't been to the lcs in several years and I don't follow industry news, aside from following CBR on Twitter. I figured the line was pared down, and read that it was going to be downsized further, but I.m still stunned. I kinda thought the number was still... 50? 70? I dunno. Whatever is was around the time of New 52. So basically, if you want to write for DC, you better want to write the Big Three or maybe GL or Flash? Is that the gist of it? That seems like a real stifling creative environment to work in. I can't imagine many projects for secondary characters are going to get the go-ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 AT&T doesn't want DC to do characters that can't sell monthly ongoings much anymore or ever. They were producing more main ongoings..27 or so titles until this cull. They also want smaller line and less people in creative so the line actually will be profitable for this decade. While also shifting more focus on OGN's and digital. We do live in the western world where print has been shrinking and will shrink more this decade. Also the rise of Manga effect comics too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario Hobb Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Yeah, I just had no idea the DC line had contracted that much. If someone had asked me this morning how many monthlies DC was publishing, I would have guessed 50 or 60. How many books does Marvel still publish? I don't hear about much beyond the X-books, Cap, Spencer's Spidey, Aaron's Avengers. Thor, Immortal Huilk, a few others. Hickman's X-Men is the only thing I'd read lately, but I'm only keeping up with the title(s) he scripts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Around 29. I didn't count the StarWars line and one shots and mini-series and event specials that feature Marvel characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintedbynumbers Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 I was reading the Green Arrow Rebirth stuff, Did they cancel that series as well? I am through issue 23 or so and it isn't bad by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 That series ended in 2019. Anyway in recent JL issue... inserts in more old continuity. Barry's death, his return, Supermans long hair era, pre crisis black mercy stuff, the proper Blackest Night. And Zero Year Batman origin, Golden Age Wonder Woman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, D.Z said: That series ended in 2019. Anyway in recent JL issue... inserts in more old continuity. Barry's death, his return, Supermans long hair era, pre crisis black mercy stuff, the proper Blackest Night. And Zero Year Batman origin, Golden Age Wonder Woman. Zero Year Barman origin? Boo. Don't get me wrong, I right enjoyed Zero Year though the middle chapter brought it down. To me, Batman: Year One will always be the origin story of Bruce Wayne/Barman and James Gordon. It's also the best Barman story of all time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Honourable mention of the origin story, The Man Who Falls written by the late, great, Dennis O'Neil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 I'm fine with Zero Year. Other DC news: Dick is Nightwing again in several upcoming books. Tim is the only Robin now. Wally will be redeemed in Speed Metal. Hypertime is broken, still some loose continuity (things not matching plus the Death Metal universe is basically its own reality now) but the end of Death Metal will sort it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintedbynumbers Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 59 minutes ago, D.Z said: I'm fine with Zero Year. Other DC news: Dick is Nightwing again in several upcoming books. Tim is the only Robin now. Wally will be redeemed in Speed Metal. Hypertime is broken, still some loose continuity (things not matching plus the Death Metal universe is basically its own reality now) but the end of Death Metal will sort it out. Do they act as though Damian never existed? Hopefully they explain where Tim was/how he came back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, paintedbynumbers said: Do they act as though Damian never existed? Hopefully they explain where Tim was/how he came back. Damian is giving up his Robin id. Tim stars in Young Justice (getting axed soon) and changed his codename to Drake. But will revert back to his original Robin persona soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eivion Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Zero Year over the Year One origin is just wrong to me. I assume its because of Snyder and maybe trying to not age Bruce up too much with James Jr. being so young during it. Damian giving up the Robin id is weird. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 The 5G timeline before it was partially scrapped would have year one happen but very early in the past after JSA disbands. There are rumors of 5G imprint now, another but real future of DC (with more history). Not exactly the same idea anymore but seems closer to what Didio wanted DC to be before they got rid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 I know they are apparently going to publish the Lucas Fox as Batman book in some form, but I'm guessing not in the regular continuity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonzombie Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) That book along with the Jon Kent as Superman book. Instead of the whole main line being 5G..only some books in a new imprint. Edited August 19, 2020 by D.Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 10 hours ago, D.Z said: I'm fine with Zero Year. Other DC news: Dick is Nightwing again in several upcoming books. Tim is the only Robin now. Wally will be redeemed in Speed Metal. Hypertime is broken, still some loose continuity (things not matching plus the Death Metal universe is basically its own reality now) but the end of Death Metal will sort it out. 9 hours ago, D.Z said: Damian is giving up his Robin id. Tim stars in Young Justice (getting axed soon) and changed his codename to Drake. But will revert back to his original Robin persona soon. Glad Dick Grayson's back as Nightwing. Tim Drake had it rough in the The New 52. Be interesting to see what happens to Damian Wayne and the direction he goes in. Good luck trying to salvage Wally West after Heroes in Crisis. Only good thing about it was the art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) If I booked the Batman books: Bruce Wayne/Batman in Gotham City and around the world. Bring back Dick Grayson as Batman or second choice, as Nightwing with Damian Wayne's Robin in Gotham City and around the world. Such a great partnership. Tim Drake as Red Robin or back with Bruce Wayne. Grant Morrison begins his second Batman run after his 2006-2013 epic. Batwoman gets a good book again. Haven't been able to say that since Blackman/Williams III left due to DC's editorial interference. A book like Gotham Central again. Give Tom Taylor Detective Comics as Morrison's on the flagship Batman book. Barbara Gordon as Oracle. Edited August 19, 2020 by The Natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fowler Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 It's a little dated now, but I did stand that the best pairings for the Batfamily, regardless of what names each have, are: Dick/Damian Tim/Cassandra Bruce/Stephanie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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