The Man Known as Dan Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 So a year to the day the 2014 thread started, here is the 2015 one. So I mentioned starting a keeper league in the Spring Training thread and I've done it on ESPN. I'm still filtering through information on how to set up specifics in it, but the league is setup. If anyone wants in, go ahead and send me a pm with there email and I'll send an invite. And also, thoughts on how things should be setup are completely open, so here's the basic questions Draft Style: Snake or Auction Scoring: Currently Offensive: BAA, HR, R, SB, OPS. Pitching: ERA, W, WHIP, K, SV Roster: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, UTIL, UTIL, UTIL, UTIL, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, P With 10 bench and 5 DL spots Keepers: Currently have 8, though figuring out certain rules regarding keepers is the interesting part. Oh, also, not a money league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Casey Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Yeah, I'm bowing out this year. To be honest, the most fun part of these things to me is the draft itself. After that, it is kind of a slog for me. Thanks to everybody who joined in my leagues over the past several years. Despite what I just said, I really enjoyed it. Hopefully I'll be back doing this again next year after I've had a year off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Dan - I hate the fact that you are using ESPN Kyle - Aww... whose league will I finish last in this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 Dan - I hate the fact that you are using ESPN Kyle - Aww... whose league will I finish last in this year? I wouldn't be opposed to using yahoo, but from what I've heard the keeper options aren't very good. I'll give it a look to see if that would work better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I find all ESPN leagues to be horrific. I have never done a keeper league online (where the system remembers keepers, etc...) but that is mainly since it has been a decade since I did a keeper league. So I have no idea if anyone else is good. But yeah - yahoo I might consider joining. ESPN is a non-starter for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 Quick check shows yahoo isn't as un keeper friendly as I thought, other then having to put in keepers manually, but that's not a big deal. If it would interest more people, I have no problem moving it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail Sabin Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I would be interested in joining and would prefer Yahoo over ESPN. I've done Football keeper leagues for years and they work pretty well on yahoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 For those interested, I moved the league over to yahoo officially. Anywhere from 8-12 teams would be my preference, and am still open to hearing any changes anyone is interested in making to stats and things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Because I am an idiot - I will join Rosters are WAY too big. I understand making it bigger since it is a keeper league - but I would slice the bench in half (5-6) and have no more than 3 DL spots. You can also eliminate two UTL spots and then you are around 25. I think that works better because I feel like it will encourage folks to pay a little more attention to roster construction (of course that could be a pipe dream). And if you slice the keepers down to maybe 5 - then you don't need a bigger roster. I think every time I have done a keeper league the # of keepers was 3 so even 5 seems gluttonous. Other ideas from me (these I don't really care either way just preference) Snake draft Add one scoring category for both Batting and Pitching. K/BB seems to be the best option for pitching or K/9 (unless you want to do Holds which is always amusing for the run on middle relievers). For batting - Just put in RBIs since I think most of us are used to that being a standard stat. Otherwise, I guess it is either Hits or maybe something like Total Bases. But again - if we are doing counting stats (which are fine for this - then RBIs is the easiest) Can I still have Nick Johnson as one of my keepers? For all time's sake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuetsar Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I'll play, though I'm not exactly good or anything. . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan in NYC Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 BTW Dan, CBS Sports is actually not that bad when it comes to keeper leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSC Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I'd be in for a keeper league. We all play in leagues together every year anyway, it makes sense to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 Because I am an idiot - I will join Rosters are WAY too big. I understand making it bigger since it is a keeper league - but I would slice the bench in half (5-6) and have no more than 3 DL spots. You can also eliminate two UTL spots and then you are around 25. I think that works better because I feel like it will encourage folks to pay a little more attention to roster construction (of course that could be a pipe dream). And if you slice the keepers down to maybe 5 - then you don't need a bigger roster. I think every time I have done a keeper league the # of keepers was 3 so even 5 seems gluttonous. Other ideas from me (these I don't really care either way just preference) Snake draft Add one scoring category for both Batting and Pitching. K/BB seems to be the best option for pitching or K/9 (unless you want to do Holds which is always amusing for the run on middle relievers). For batting - Just put in RBIs since I think most of us are used to that being a standard stat. Otherwise, I guess it is either Hits or maybe something like Total Bases. But again - if we are doing counting stats (which are fine for this - then RBIs is the easiest) Can I still have Nick Johnson as one of my keepers? For all time's sake? Thinking about it, I agree on the roster size, and actually had decreased the bench to six when I switched over to Yahoo. I'm also incredibly tempted to add the holds stat. I added RBI's and K/BB for now, and I'm liking the look of it. The main thing I've been trying to come up with is a keeper rule that makes sense. 5 works, but I was thinking of a rule that starting the second year, you can only keep 3 of your first 5 picks to keep the draft well stocked, and if we do go further then that, you can only keep 3 of your previous years 5 keepers. As for the interest, I'm pretty happy about it, and will send messages to send invites after I get off work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSC Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I dunno how it would work with baseball, but I like the keeper rules I use for football with my buddies. Basically you can keep up to 3 players (probably more because it's baseball) and it costs you 2 rounds earlier then where you picked them or what round they counted as the previous year (so to keep a 11th rounder the 2nd year would cost you a 9th, the following year a 7th). No one drafted in round 1-3 can be kept the next year and after 3 years of ownership they're released back into the draft pool. It's a nice mix of rewarding good later round drafting, while keeping the draft well stocked, not completely screwing you over if you don't have a good set of keepers or preventing someone from having such outrageously good keepers that the league is pretty much over before the draft even starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 I dunno how it would work with baseball, but I like the keeper rules I use for football with my buddies. Basically you can keep up to 3 players (probably more because it's baseball) and it costs you 2 rounds earlier then where you picked them or what round they counted as the previous year (so to keep a 11th rounder the 2nd year would cost you a 9th, the following year a 7th). No one drafted in round 1-3 can be kept the next year and after 3 years of ownership they're released back into the draft pool. It's a nice mix of rewarding good later round drafting, while keeping the draft well stocked, not completely screwing you over if you don't have a good set of keepers or preventing someone from having such outrageously good keepers that the league is pretty much over before the draft even starts. You know, I wasn't sure Yahoo would let me do it this way, but it will. And I really like this format, so I think that's what were going to do if there are no objections. So here's what I have at present: Head to Head League, Snake Draft with Straight Drafts in years ahead (though I think I'm going to do a RNG to determine who gets first pick out of non playoff teams), scoring is Runs, BAA, HR, RBI, SB, OPS for offense, W, ERA, WHIP, SV, K's, K/BB for pitching, 5 keepers per year max, with each player you keep costing you a pick two rounds higher in the draft. Sound good so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewar Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 If you are still looking for players, I'll play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Oh - again - doesn't matter to me since I will play but I would prefer rotisserie to H2H Everything else sounds fine. I will probably troll Ed into joining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 I actually prefer Rotisserie to HTH myself, but I think with the keeper thing no playoff format could lead to an iffy league. Half way through the season we could e down to 3 teams actually competing for a the title and whoever else is left just kinda waiting around, trying to trade for some better future assets.If others prefer Rotiseree, I can change it back to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacelle Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I wanna play too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail Sabin Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I would prefer H2H but either way 5 of my players will be on the DL in the 1st 2 months of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 So once everyone who'se shown interest signs on, we'll be up to seven, so looking good so far. Also, just a note around the league setup I thought was interesting, I am turning Draft Pick trades on. Note notable for the first draft, but could be important down the stretch for next years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 Yay Double Post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPPA Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 BTW - is the draft time official? Because 9 pm on a Thursday is brutal for an old man like me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 It is not, was just trying to pick a setup date. Moved it to April 3rd (Friday) at 8 eastern. The west coast time zone date picking messes with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man Known as Dan Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 On, some further notes. I've been considering trying to figure in non drafted free agents rule of "if they weren't drafted, they can't be kept." If that sounds good. And any player you acquire in a trade is treated like you drafted them in whatever round, if that wasn't obvious. Also, I was thinking of a "year limit" in which you can only keep a player do many years in a row. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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