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Is this the start of the talent cuts?

It was time for a new thread. I am sure at some point then new version of the Network won't suck but I am also stupid

No announcements yet but Batista gave a recent interview stating that he is pushing the WWE to do his induction this year.

Who here has a Wall Street Journal subscription so we can all read about Vince paying a paralegal to cover up their affair?

There's some more shit coming...

The road to WrestleMania continues with the Elimination Chamber. I think one of the Elimination Chamber matches will decide who challenges the Fiend for the WWE Universal Championship at WrestleMania XXXVI. For the past two years, the Men's Elimination Chamber participants wrestle a Gauntlet match with Seth Rollins going an hour in 2018 and Kofi Kingston last year. I REALLY REALLY want Daniel Bryan to be the third. 60+ minutes of Daniel Bryan please and thank you.

Since I don't wanna have to wade through the old thread. This will open maybe when the show ends. Maybe Goldberg will be done walking to the ring by then.

Batista and the original NWO (Hogan, Hall and Nash) have been announced as this year’s headliners EDIT - okay they are including Waltman with the group too

I am petty sure the show won't be over at midnight but I know I wont be awake and honestly none of the rest of you should be either.

Spyware reports The (original) Hart Foundation is going in. Which would make Bret and Jimmy the second and third two time inductees.

Raw and SmackDown Women's Championships - Winner Takes All Ronda Rousey (c) vs Becky Lynch vs Charlotte Flair (c) Universal Championship Brock Lesnar (c) w/ Paul Heyman vs Seth Rollins WWE Championship Daniel Bryan (c) vs Kofi Kingston No Holds Barred Triple H vs Batista Roman Reigns vs Drew McIntyre Kurt Angle vs Baron Corbin Randy Orton vs AJ Styles Falls Count Anywhere Miz vs Shane McMahon Women's Tag Team Championship Sasha Banks and Bayley (c) vs Natalia Neidhart and Beth Phoenix vs Nia Jax and Tamina vs The IIconics United States Championship Samoa Joe (c) vs Rey Mysterio Intercontinental Championship Bobby Lashley (c) w/ Lio Rush vs Finn Balor Raw Tag Team Championship The Revival (c) vs Zack Ryder and Curt Hawkins SmackDown Tag Team Championship Jimmy and Jey Uso (c) vs Rusev and Shinsuke Nakamura vs Aleister Black and Ricochet vs Sheamus and Cesaro Musical Performance by Elias WrestleMania 35 Host: Alexa Bliss Kickoff Show: Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal Participants: Braun Strowman, Colin Jost, Michael Che, Andrade, Apollo Crews, Titus O'Neil, Tyler Breeze, Jinder Mahal, No Way Jose, Bobby Roode, Chad Gable, Kalisto, Gran Metalik, Lince Dorado, Bo Dallas, Curtis Axel, Heath Slater, Rhyno, Viktor, Konnor, Ali, Shelton Benjamin, Luke Gallows, Karl Anderson, Matt Hardy, Jeff Hardy, Otis, Tucker, EC3 Women's Battle Royal Participants: Asuka, Carmella, Naomi, Lana, Mandy Rose, Sonya Deville, Nikki Cross, Dana Brooke, Ruby Riott, Liv Morgan, Sarah Logan, Mickie James, Zelina Vega Cruiserweight Championship Buddy Murphy (c) vs Tony Nese

Yeah - considering the other thread is like 14 pages long already this will be the post show discussion. And yet again I am being optimistic that the show is over by 11 pm EDIT Yup - considering the men's match clearly isn't starting till 10:30 at the earliest, I am pushing this back

Hey - the WWE actually has 4 weeks to promote a show! TLC - December 16 - San Jose, CA Braun Strowman vs. Baron Corbin - TLC Match - If Braun wins, he faces Brock Lesnar at Royal Rumble and Corbin will "lose all his power" Ladder Match for the IC Title: Seth Rollins (C) vs. Dean Ambrose RAW Women's Title: Ronda Rousey (C) vs. Nia Jax Finals of Mixed Match Challenge - Winners get #30 in the Rumble - Carmella/R Truth vs. Alicia Fox/Jinder Mahal WWE Championship: The New Daniel Bryan (C) vs. AJ Styles Triple Threat TLC Match for the Smackdown Women's Championship: Becky Lynch (c) vs. Charlotte vs. Asuka Triple Threat Tag Match for the Smackdown Tag Team Championship: The Bar (c) vs. The New Day vs. The Usos For the WWE Cruiserweight Championship: Buddy Murphy (C) vs. Cedric Alexander Chairs Match: Randy Orton vs. Rey Mysterio Tables Match: Ruby Riott vs. Natalya Finn Balor vs. Drew McIntyre Ladder/Guitar Match: Bobby Lashley vs. Elias

So, my new project is to watch all the 'B'-level pay-per-views, starting with the first In Your House. I'm not gonna do long match reviews or anything, but will share my thoughts as I go along, and I invite others to do the same. I had the first In Your House on video when I was a kid, and watched (and loved) the shit out of it. This is the first time I'd watched it in years though, so I was interested to see how it held up. Bret Hart Vs Hakushi: This had always been one of my favourite matches, and I always thought of it as a real classic. Unfortunately, upon rewatching it, it seems I was overrating it a whole lot. It's still a good match, but isn't really anything special. There are a couple of awkward moments between the two in the early going, and Shinzaki seemed to have a bit of a Muta-thing going on, where he could appear to just be going through the motions for stretches, punctuated by bursts of exciting offence. The finishing stretch is nice though. Razor Ramon Vs Jeff Jarrett and The Roadie: This was the debut of Savio Vega. It always made me sad how Aldo Montoya rushes down to help Razor at the end, but is just beaten down and forgotten about. The match itself is a solid, logical handicap match. Jarrett and Roadie were a good act, I thought. Mabel Vs Adam Bomb: KOTR qualifier, and just a squash really, though Bomb shows some decent agility. Owen Hart and Yokozuna Vs The Smoking Gunns: Decent for a short match. Jerry Lawler Vs Bret Hart: I think Bret and Lawler had good chemistry, but never really got the chance to work a great match with each other, mostly because Lawler was never portrayed as being on Hart's level, or a real physical threat to him. For instance, Bret pops right up from a Lawler piledriver here like he's Road Warrior Hawk. Hakushi gets involved, and the ref surely sees him interfere. Bad timing there. This was good for what it was. Diesel Vs Sid: The much-maligned Sid/Diesel feud. This wasn't terrible actually. Just boring, but not really offensive. DQ to set up the lumberjack match at the next ppv (and also the KOTR main event). Diesel cuts a decent promo before the match about his mother passing away (the show was on mother's day), which actually makes him sympathetic for a minute. Match of the night: Bret/Hakushi, which I'd have at about 3 1/4 stars. Show rating: 3 stars. Nothing outright sucked, but there was really nothing memorable about the show at all. To be fair, most shows they put on these days smoke this for in-ring action (though not booking!). Not sure why I loved this so much at the time. Probably because as a kid I didn't get to see all that many ppvs, and this, as a new concept, at least felt fresh at the time.

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I am being told that Brock Lesnar is leaving the WWE for UFC again, which means that's a good time for Lashley to step in and take the reigns.

Since the other thread is already like 18 pages - new thread for after the show. Of course - I am sure the show will go to like midnight now

Man even though it seems soon, it is still 6 months away. Anyway Announced so far Brock Lesnar vs. Kane vs. Braun Strowman - Universal Title Men's Royal Rumble Match - Elias is 1st person officially entered Women's Royal Rumble Match - Naomi is 1st SDL women in* * - the WWE website reads weird since they made sure to say 1st Smackdown woman... but there is no one else listed who would officially be in it from RAW

This is will the after show thread since the other thread is already 10 pages deep. Hopefully the board won't dick me over.

The two cell matches are now official Jinder Mahal vs. Shinsuke Nakamura Kevin Owens vs. Shane McMahon

PTBN is doing a top one hundred WWE wrestlers list and they are taking nominations. Who would be your snap top five were you putting together a list for this?

So this story has been blowing up this weekend. You have the AMA by Justin Roberts. You have the cryptic tweets by Mauro Ranallo. Dave Meltzer saying JBL is tight with Vince and Vince basically approves and encourages JBL's behavior to weed out guys who can't take the humiliation, something Roberts corroborates, unless you hate Roberts. And you have JBL attempting to defend himself with his own tweets, saying he never stole Roberts' passport but then claimed Roberts is an idiot and that the whole crew hated him. JBL's history of being a terror behind the scenes is pretty well documented at this point. So now that WWE is promoting the whole Be a Star thing...when does this no longer become tolerated? And doesn't Vince McMahon's complicity make him equally at fault? I don't think you can be partially intolerant toward this behavior. I have no idea if this is true, but Jonathan Coachman just quit his WWE coverage gig with ESPN. He's come out in defense of WWE, but is it merely just a coincidence that he's stopped this when all this is blowing up? But then again, doesn't ESPN have a habit of soft-balling certain sports they cover like this when stories like this blow up? EDIT: Here's Coach's tweet from earlier today.

Figured I'd start this since I've been trying to watch stuff from both of these shows. Chime in with what you've seen! Superstars usually goes up pretty quick on the Network while Main Event is a few weeks behind but is easy to find elsewhere... WWE Main Event 12/29 #170 Jack Swagger vs. Stardust Swagger had some nice offense before the commercial break. The big spot when they come back is Swagger missing a corner charge and taking a massive bump over the top rope to the floor. Immediately made me sit up and pay closer attention. Stardust hits a clothesline on the floor and massive superplex. There's some nice payback for Swagger when he hits a clothesline on the floor. Finishing sequence was really well done to the point that the crowd totally bought a Swagger Bomb as the finish and started chanting his name. Swagger won with the Patriot Lock after about 10 minutes + the break. Loved this match. Probably the best Stardust match I've seen in ages and they really managed to hook the crowd in. Would be interested in seeing what other people thought. WWE Superstars 1/1 #351 Jack Swagger and Mark Henry vs. The Ascension This is the debut as a team for Swagger and Henry. Swagger literally worked the entire match until the hot tag. Mark Henry cleaned house for about a minute and won with the World's Strongest Slam in 7 minutes. Main Event 1/6 #171 The Usos vs Social Outcasts (Curtis Axel & Bo Dallas) Shockingly fun little match here. Usos are over and they did a cool spot where they cut off the Outcasts victory lap with a double dive. Jimmy hit a dab showing that at least one person in WWE is aware of pop culture. They did a distraction roll up finish but it was countered and the Usos won. Superstars 1/8 #352 Jack Swagger vs Tyler Breeze They had a 10 minute match in about 3 minutes. Swagger posted himself and Breeze hit the Unprettier for the pin. It was good but too short. Main Event 1/13 #172 Jack Swagger & Mark Henry vs The Ascension They ran an angle to start the show where Mark Henry was cutting a promo about winning the Royal Rumble but the Ascension came out and attacked him. Swagger made the save to set up the tag match. This was an extended version of their previous encounter where Mark Henry actually got in the match before the finish. Pretty basic stuff by the Ascension getting the heat on Swagger. Henry got the hot tag, slammed some guys, Jack hit the Swagger Bomb and Henry hit the World’s Strongest Slam for the pin. The Ascension are just bland but the formula works because Swagger sold well and Henry kicked some ass. Superstars 1/15 #353 Jack Swagger vs Tyler Breeze Rematch from the previous week and they get more time. Nice little sequence at the start where Breeze does his pose on the ropes and shakes his foot at Swagger in disdain. Swagger beats him up, clotheslines him out and does Breeze's pose on the ropes to mock him. Basic story of the match is Breeze working Swagger's knee. Good near fall with Swagger countering the Unprettier but his knee gives out and Breeze hits his kick for two. Swagger Bomb and the Patriot Lock gets Swagger the win in 7 minutes + the break. Simple, fun, easy to watch match.