Elsalvajeloco Posted July 10, 2019 Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, supremebve said: In all fairness, the only MMA fight of his I remember he was wearing a mask and got knocked out in hilariously vicious fashion. I'm sure I saw his loss to Kaz Nakamura too, but I don't recall that fight at all. I'll never forget Cro Cop hitting him with the left high kick, and the super necessary uppercut to his slumped over carcass. The only person Del Rio has beat that I've even heard of is Brad Kohler who was in the middle of an 11 fight losing streak. How'd he win? Kohler suffered a shoulder injury. This is going to sound absurd, but I'm pretty sure I've watched more fights than 90% of MMA fans. If you're an MMA fighter and I've never heard of you, it's pretty safe to say that your career does not matter at all in the grand story of MMA. I've never heard of any of the other dude's that he's beat. Fighting Tito Ortiz, even a washed up Tito Ortiz, is a horrible idea for Alberto Del Rio. Tito is a fighter who I think is better than what we remember. He's also less shop worn than most fighters who have been fighting that long, because he spent so much time arguing about his contract and not fighting. He's going to be able to work his takedown/ground and pound game against a scrub like Del Rio for the rest of his life. Kengo Watanabe is famous for being a jobber in Pancrase, and I'm pretty sure I played as him in one of those Japanese wrestling video games. Anyway, I don't see his delusion as any different from Liddell even though Chuck thought he could beat Tito again based his own success a decade plus prior and Oscar promised them both a "cut" of the PPV "revenue". Apparently, he was suppose to fight at Caesars Palace in November as his retirement fight. First off, who the fuck is fighting at Caesars Palace now? Is he stuck in the 1980s or early 90s? Is he the only and last person mesmerized by Wrestlemania IX? The last time someone tried to bring fighting back to Caesars Palace in Vegas was Antonio Margarito vs. Kermit Cintron in like 2005 when nobody knew who the fuck Margarito was and he was suppose to be the big boogeyman in boxing. Second, why would Alberto del Rio need a retirement fight? Were people clamoring about how we never got a proper sendoff for him in MMA? Again, I just think he is crazy as fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiji Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said: Kengo Watanabe is famous for being a jobber in Pancrase, and I'm pretty sure I played as him in one of those Japanese wrestling video games. Yeah, you did. I knew the name was familiar! KOC II is legit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said: Kengo Watanabe is famous for being a jobber in Pancrase, and I'm pretty sure I played as him in one of those Japanese wrestling video games. Anyway, I don't see his delusion as any different from Liddell even though Chuck thought he could beat Tito again based his own success a decade plus prior and Oscar promised them both a "cut" of the PPV "revenue". Apparently, he was suppose to fight at Caesars Palace in November as his retirement fight. First off, who the fuck is fighting at Caesars Palace now? Is he stuck in the 1980s or early 90s? Is he the only and last person mesmerized by Wrestlemania IX? The last time someone tried to bring fighting back to Caesars Palace in Vegas was Antonio Margarito vs. Kermit Cintron in like 2005 when nobody knew who the fuck Margarito was and he was suppose to be the big boogeyman in boxing. Second, why would Alberto del Rio need a retirement fight? Were people clamoring about how we never got a proper sendoff for him in MMA? Again, I just think he is crazy as fuck. Around the first CM Punk fight I was arguing with someone about how terrible of a fighter Del Rio was, and how I am 100% sure Conor McGregor would knock him withing a round. This douchebag was trying to tell me that Del Rio's size was a big enough factor to overcome the gap in skill. So, there are some people who think that he actually had a fighting career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted July 10, 2019 Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, supremebve said: Around the first CM Punk fight I was arguing with someone about how terrible of a fighter Del Rio was, and how I am 100% sure Conor McGregor would knock him withing a round. This douchebag was trying to tell me that Del Rio's size was a big enough factor to overcome the gap in skill. So, there are some people who think that he actually had a fighting career. Del Rio is hanging his hat on training for or with the Mexican national Olympic wrestling team at age 16. He's 42 now. So I guess he is stuck in the year 1993. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Elsalvajeloco said: Del Rio is hanging his hat on training for or with the Mexican national Olympic wrestling team at age 16. He's 42 now. So I guess he is stuck in the year 1993. He's MMAs Uncle Rico. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Official poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) One of MMA's best ever shows. Edited July 11, 2019 by The Natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) Bonus: Edited July 11, 2019 by The Natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 Quote “Ken and I are finally going to share the Ring!” Mark Coleman wrote on his personal Facebook page. “Bare Knuckle Boxing. I will no longer have to answer if I fought The Great Ken Shamrock! Good luck my friend. ” Adding fuel to the fire was Coleman’s longtime friend and ‘Hammer House’ training partner Wes Sims. The former UFC heavyweight, Sims, took to social media suggesting that the September 21 Bare Knuckle fight card will feature the following fights. Mark Coleman vs Ken Shamrock Wes Sims vs Tra Trauma Telligman Branden Hinkle vs Vernon White Phil Baroni vs Mikey Burnett Nick Nutter vs Pete Williams 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 How many people are watching these bare knuckle boxing fights? And why haven't they signed Igor Vovchanchyn yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, supremebve said: How many people are watching these bare knuckle boxing fights? And why haven't they signed Igor Vovchanchyn yet? Well, the promoter for the Malignaggi-Lobov card came out and said that PPV did 200,000. Turns out it was around 18,000. Based on the purse for Paulie not being disclosed, I highly doubt they broke even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Natural Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Always had an interest in behind the scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 On 7/10/2019 at 8:53 AM, The Natural said: I remember that fight as Dominick Cruz is one of my favourite fighters, he German suplexed Mighty Mouse about, it was his last UFC Bantamweight Championship defense as he had to vacate due to injuries and it's only one of two Mighty Mouse losses in UFC (Henry Cejudo the other). Bantamweight GOAT. Tagging @DreamBroken. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Natural Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said: I thought Thiago Santos won the fight with two fucked knees. Impressive by Santos, shame he injured himself to the extent he has. Edited July 18, 2019 by The Natural Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jiji Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) Why are my pants so tight all of a sudden? I had no interest in going but I'm there after that announcement. Holy shit. Edited July 18, 2019 by Oyaji 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 11 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said: This is a terrible fight for Cowboy...it will be fun while it lasts, but Gaethje is about as tailor made to exploit all of Cowboy's weaknesses as anyone not named Tony Ferguson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Natural Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Jon Jones fucks up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 I fancy Frankie Edgar to finally win the UFC Featherweight Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Natural said: I fancy Frankie Edgar to finally win the UFC Featherweight Championship. I think Frankie is the exact kind of fighter that Max Holloway batters like a filet of catfish. Frankie isn't going to be able to trick Holloway with his movement, I doubt he can take Max down, and he doesn't hit nearly hard enough to make Halloway respect his striking. Frankie's footwork is also kind of terrible, it is why he could never beat Aldo. He does a lot of unnecessary movement that can confuse lesser fighters, but good fighters see through the nonsense and just punch him in the face when he's in range. Holloway is the real deal, he's about as good of an MMA fighter that exists right now. His best skill is seeing what his opponent is doing and adjusting on the fly. Edgar's game isn't nearly diverse enough to fool Holloway. I think the first round may be competitive, but it gets ugly quickly and Holloway finishes him in the 3rd or 4th round. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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