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Your second paraphrase is really true. AEW has done a very good job of highlighting minorities. Swerve apparently has a feature in XXL magazine, that comes from not treating black culture as a joke. Willow and Athena have distinct none stereotypical personalities. Darkside of the Ring got me to check out some of their other shows particularly the one on Arsenio Hall , and it shows you how Asian culture is right where black culture was in the 80s and 90s with people not wanting be just the butt of the joke. You see Asian helmed movies doing well and winning awards (crazy rich Asians, parasite, everything everywhere all at once). The ufc gym I go to is in a predominantly Asian community and it was packed for the first Johanna v Zella Wang fight, so Shida standing tall at the end of the big dynamite anniversary show is very forward thinking
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Close its Wembley we are going Queen not Randy Newman
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Best match involving minis and non minis. If I understand Meltzer star rating system correctly Finley kicking lil’boogey in the head should rate about 16
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August 2023 Wrestling Discussion
zendragon replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
We missed out on Rod running things -
The man is a serial killer! First Parker disappears , then trench now this! seriously Swerve and Lethal are both guys who where brought in as bland faces and got much more interesting as heels! now onto Rampage!
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Daddy Magic Appreciation Society? You can tell Jack Perry has truly embraced the dark side cause he has a beard, RVD is a good case for legal weed. Loved the trios match, especially the little bit where Jeff was Flair and Kenny was Steamboat. Hope they stretch this feud out. Shidas bodysuit gear looks a lot better than her wearing my dads tighty whitys
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The short term answer 4 women’s matches instead of three a week. The long term answer recondition those same fans. For years WWE used the tag straps as a plot device for the main singles feuds. Bob Holly talked about how he really didn’t make anymore money as tag champion, AEW had made tag wrestling a cornerstone by having FTR main event PPVs (I’m counting ROH) and go two out of three for an hour. Do the same for women’s wrestling. I was honestly surprised the women got the main this week ( and even then it was kinda a quickie main event by AEW standards)
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Tony Khan really does love him some Adam Cole
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I’m guessing Tony Halme getting beat by Randy Couture killed the Territory
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Or hasn’t watch current wresting decades
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The Viceland Wrestling Documentaries
zendragon replied to Nice Guy Eddie's topic in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
I know people say that by 2001 WCW had turned a corner creatively , not sure if BATB 2000 ( and the aforementioned finger poke of doom) had poisoned the well too much by then -
Rebel/Reba is the full time make up lady backstage Worlds sexist Ralphus PVZ is doing only fans and Red Velvet was injured re:Madison Rayne ; I was listening to Dave Meltzer on CVV he said that in an era where everyone can work you need more than that you have to be a great promo of you really want to get over and in a case of a broken clock being right twice a day I saw a clip of CVV interviewing Russo who said you need more than work rate centric matches you need characters and story lines to draw fans in. I don’t know if Rayne ever had a truly great match but The Beautiful People were an over and fun act. She was officially brought in as a coach so maybe that’s her value to the company
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I imagine every match (just about) going through PIP is a network directive at this point. 5 hours of total tv time a week shouldn’t be a problem. When you had FTR v BCG and B&G both went an HR they could have put made sure to put a second women’s match on Rampage that week. Willow v Taya was nice but you could have bookended that hour of TV with a TBS title defense How can they become a draw if they don’t get that chance though?
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The Viceland Wrestling Documentaries
zendragon replied to Nice Guy Eddie's topic in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
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Dynamite & Davey: The explosion lives of THE BRITISH BULLDOGS Steven Bell 364 pgs Goes cradle to the grave on both men, from their starts in England to Dynamites final match in Japan and Daveys final WWE run. Very in-depth and well researched. I especially loved hear all about the Calgary days as it’s a territory that doesn’t get talked about much aside from being a footnote for the Harts. I love learning about territories that have historically fallen by the wayside. Speaking of which I really want to see those Calgary matches between Bret and Davey and Bret and Dynamite. Benoit, Owen and Jim Neinhart also get discussed as their careers often paralleled The British Bulldogs, so much that the book serves a bit of a Hart Gamily timeline. Benoit obviously looked up to Dynamite and was his mentor, there and internet radio interview between the two men that’s transcribed. Dynamite obviously paved the way for smaller more athletic wrestlers like Benoit and Eddie but sadly what price he payed to get there also paralleled what happened to both of them. (Eddie’s death being an enlarged heart due steroids and pain medication and Benoit with CTE , this is all discussed) Both men had a falling out over disagreement over career direction (Davey wanted to go back to WWF and trademarked the name British Bulldog, Dynamite wanted Japan) this lead to a split between not only the real life cousins but their respective families. now the book does not spot with the end of that tag team. We hear about various aborted main event pushes for Davey in WWF and WCW including the original plans for The European title, Canadian Stampede , loyalty to Bret during the screw job and his tragic Halloween Havoc accident. sadly Dynamite seems to have been a horrible person to kinda got what he had coming in more ways than one and Davey needed a bit of a guiding hand and was lost without Bret or Dynamite. I put this one up there with the recent Sheik book on the patheon of great wrestling books. I hope he does an Owen book next
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Honestly Impact does a better job in my opinion, I think the audience is there
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zendragon replied to Nice Guy Eddie's topic in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
It is interesting to think of what Bishoff/Fusient owned WCW looks like? Does Vince try to out spend them on talent to kneecap them? Who jumps who stays? -
I seem to remember the Andre in Japan stories being in Hogans book and the whole thing had an “as told too” feel
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And there should be no reason for AEW to do so (especially as a company that seems to want to brand itself as younger and forward thinking) one women’s match per show that usually goes on before the main event especially if it’s a one minute squash tells your audience “this ain’t all that important “
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I do think treating the women’s division as an afterthought and then blaming low rating is a very self fulfilling prophecy
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How many of those hour long matches from the 70s do we have tape of?
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I found Bobby Heenans book disappointing and felt heavily ghost written
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What do people consider Savages best match? Cause he’s a name that hasn’t been mentioned. WMIII or one of the DDP ones?
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August 2023 Wrestling Discussion
zendragon replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
Weirdly I was just thinking about this The Limo Bombing of One Vincent Kennedy Mcmahon is such peak Vince craziness I wish we got to see it through -
I wonder if Black is still some what banged up and that accounts for the lack of singles matches? I wonder if Parker is still under contract? If so do they send him somewhere to develop like an nba contracted basketball player playing in Europe? Penta needs a big singles main event next time they run LA