Phil Schneider Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 This week KENTA v. SUWA will challenge for the 2005 title against reigning champ Ishikawa v. Ikeda. Watch the matches, pimp your favorite and we will reveal the winner on Friday!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go2Sleep Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 It's been a while since I watched Kenta/Suwa. This definitely was the performance of a lifetime from Suwa. His heeling for the first 10 minutes or so was absolutely brilliant. Perfect character work during that stretch where Suwa knows he can't keep up, and all his offense is based off cheating. The interactions with Higuchi and Kikuchi at ringside were top notch as well. Unfortunately, they didn't keep this pace up for the full 25 minutes. It eventually devolved into a standard juniors match, which doesn't play to Suwa's strengths. Worse yet, they went to the standard juniors style without giving Kenta a satisfying payoff to the 80s territory style segment. Suwa had no credibility against Kenta in a clean match, which they go well out of their way to establish in the first half here, so all his nearfalls are flat. Plus he stops cheating for the most part, so they completely lose that organic crowd interaction that made the first half so special. Kenta doesn't even get a really exceptional finishing run that would be becoming of the sort of effort Suwa put in. If only Kenta knew then what he knows now after working in front of WWE audiences for a couple years. Tough break, because the first half is so great, but there's no way I can justify a vote for it based on the pedestrian second half. I feel like they teased us with MOTDC, then just gave us every Korakuen juniors single match instead. Ikeda/Ishikawa was interesting throughout because what they established early (ridiculously stiff strikes and stretchy subs) stayed a constant theme throughout the match. It also has the benefit of not being too long for its own good. I'll side with them in this heads up vote, but there's at least 5 matches I'd take over either of them without a second thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Natural Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 My vote goes to the capitals match but I agree with Go2Sleep, there's more matches I rate above both by some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamp, broken circa 1988 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 The 80s Territory thing confuses me. SUWA is very clearly a Rudo. He's not from Memphis. Dude got learned in Mexico. Old Toryumon is basically a Lucha promotion. There's a long lineage of rudos just cheating because they're assholes and not necessarily because they can't get an edge some other way. SUWA wants to ruin everything, but he's still a perfectly capable wrestler, he's just an ornery fucker who hates what you like. If they would have done this match like actually 80s American style I think that complaint holds merit, but that's not the wrestler SUWA is. anyways I said my piece about this in the other thread, it's my favorite match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Schneider Posted October 1, 2016 Author Share Posted October 1, 2016 Ikeda v. Ishikawa edges out SUWA v. Kenta to keep the belt, but Eric waxes poetic about his love for SUWA http://segundacaida.blogspot.com/2016/09/all-time-moty-list-head-to-head-2005.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt McGirt Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Damn Eric, that was great. Fantastic writeup boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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