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The Natural · May 25, 2023

14 minutes ago, Brian Fowler said:

It starts with him being an abused kid, both by his father and local bullies. Then when Sue and Johnny's dad dies in Ultimatum and he tries to propose to Sue she breaks up with him and the team disbands.

Then he kills his own parents while faking his death and aligns with invading aliens against the earth.

He's defeated, survives, and decides he's going to win his friends back by saving the planet. That's when he builds The City and becomes the Maker and lives for like a thousand years in the future without aging and then comes back to fight the Ultimates and there's the big reveal when his helmet comes off. IIRC, that kinda resulted in more of a stalemate than anything.

Then the 616-Galactus came to the Ultimate Universe and the heroes begged Reed to help defeat him. He traveled to the 616, stole other Reed's files on Galactus, trapped Galactus in the N-Zone and seemed to be making a full face turn into Hickman basically threw out everything that happened after he stopped writing Reed and reverted him to The Maker for Secret Wars

Cheers, mate.

dragonzombie · May 25, 2023

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username · May 26, 2023

17 hours ago, The Natural said:

How did Reed Richards become the villain, the Maker? Thanks in advance.

While the specifics were covered, I believe the general gist is that Hickman's read on Reed Richards is that he needs the rest of the Fantastic Four around to keep him grounded and keep hold of his humanity. In the Ultimates universe they are mostly gone or less morally good, so Reed's pure intellect minus that tie to humanity leads him to some dark places.

The Natural · May 26, 2023

Just now, username said:

While the specifics were covered, I believe the general gist is that Hickman's read on Reed Richards is that he needs the rest of the Fantastic Four around to keep him grounded and keep hold of his humanity. In the Ultimates universe they are mostly gone or less morally good, so Reed's pure intellect minus that tie to humanity leads him to some dark places.

Thank you.