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Years ago, I catalogued a random WCW tape that I got from Dec 97 to July 98. The best WCW C-show matches that I noted were: WCW PRO – 12/14/97 3. Steve Regal / Dave “Fit” Finlay WCW PRO – 12/28/97 15. La Parka / El Dandy / Silver King vs Juvi / Ciclope / Hector Garza WCW PRO – 1/4/98 19. Steve Regal / Curt Hennig 2/7/98 – WCW SATURDAY NIGHT 29. Raven / Chris Benoit 3/7/98 – WCW SATURDAY NIGHT 38. Villano IV / Juvi 3/21/98 – WCW SATURDAY NIGHT 49. Yuji Nagata / Booker T 5/16/98 - WCW SATURDAY NIGHT 54. Yuji Nagata / Goldberg 7/18/98 – WCW SATURDAY NIGHT 61. Shiima Nabunaga (CIMA) / Ultimo Dragon

It absolutely aired, but it was just a just a quick little 1:00 piece on Superstars. I cant remember WHY precisely it aired, maybe just a generic personality profile thing or something, but I remember recognizing Heath as Vampire Warrior from USWA.There's an oblique reference it in the 11/21/94 Observer: There's a lot of Superstars episodes up on Dailymotion, but I haven't been able to locate any clips of this in particular from Nov 1994 episodes.

I too, would love to know why this didn't happen and what the plans for him were. My best guess would be a feud w/ Piper.He ended 1990 by being part of the Herb Abram's UWF for the TV tapings in California. Wonder if he got more money from them?Here's a RSPW post from Jan 1990 mentioning Orton rejoining WWF. Same rumor shows up in June 1990. And again in September. You think it was Al Isaacs with Yokozuna at this rate!

If you're including multi-man matches, there's the WrestleMania 2000 4 way going 36:24 and the WWE Championship Elimination Chamber from No Way Out 2009 going 36:01. Strictly singles matches, it's Backlund/Bret from Survivor Series 94 which is listed on HistoryofWWE as 34:44 Cheers mate! I'm out of likes but I'll give you one when filled up again ; ). Just quickly looking through my post-1984 database, here were the 30+ minute matches that I found. Though as has been noted, not all were "strictly singles"...WrestleMania XII - Anaheim, CA - Arrowhead Pond - March 31, 1996 (15,855; 12,909 paid) Shawn Michaels (w/ Jose Lothario) defeated WWF World Champion Bret Hart in an Ironman match to win the title; the original decision was a draw at 60:02, as neither man had scored a fall in the 60-minute time-limit, however the match was restarted by WWF President Gorilla Monsoon, with Michaels hitting two superkicks in sudden death to pick up the win at 1:53 Survivor Series 02 - New York City, NY - Madison Square Garden - November 17, 2002 (17,930; 15,500 paid) Shawn Michaels defeated World Heavyweight Champion Triple H, Booker T, Rob Van Dam, WWE Raw Tag Team Champion Chris Jericho, and Kane in an Elimination Chamber match to win the title at 39:21 Armageddon 02 - Ft. Lauderdale, FL - Office Depot Center - December 15, 2002 (9,000) Triple H defeated World Heavyweight Champion Shawn Michaels in a Best 2 out of 3 falls match to win the title at 38:33 WAR / WWF @ Yokohama, Japan - September 15, 1992 (12,000) WWF World Champion Ric Flair fought Genichiro Tenryu to a draw in a Best 2 out of 3 falls match at 38:35; fall #1: Tenryu pinned Flair with a powerbomb at 13:03; fall #2: Flair defeated Tenryu with the figure-4 at 11:01; fall #3: both men were counted-out at 13:46 No Way Out 09 - Seattle, WA - Key Arena - February 15, 2009 (matinee) (11,362) Triple H defeated the Undertaker, Jeff Hardy, the Big Show, Vladimir Kozlov, and WWE World Champion Edge to win the title in an Elimination Chamber match at 36:01 WrestleMania 2000 - Anaheim, CA - Arrowhead Pond - April 2, 2000 (18,034; announced at 19,776; 16,716 paid) WWF World Champion Triple H (w/ Stephanie McMahon) defeated the Rock (w/ Vince McMahon), the Big Show (w/ Shane McMahon), and Mick Foley (w/ Linda McMahon) in a No DQ elimination match at 36:24 WWF @ Kiel, Germany - Ostseehalle - September 27, 1992 WWF World Champion Ric Flair defeated Bret Hart at 35:13 Elimination Chamber - St. Louis, MO - Scottrade Center - February 21, 2010 (17,628; 14,000 paid; sell out) Chris Jericho defeated World Heavyweight Champion the Undertaker, Rey Mysterio Jr., R-Truth, John Morrison, and CM Punk (w/ Luke Gallows & Serena) in an Elimination Chamber match to win the title at 35:39 Elimination Chamber 2012 - Milwaukee, WI - Bradley Center - February 19, 2012 (15,306; sell out) World Heavyweight Champion Daniel Bryan defeated WWE IC Champion Cody Rhodes, the Great Khali, the Big Show, Santino Marella, and Wade Barrett in an Elimination Chamber match at 34:04 Survivor Series 94 - San Antonio, TX - Freeman Coliseum - November 23, 1994 (10,000; 8,000 paid; announced as a sell out) Bob Backlund (w/ Owen Hart) defeated WWF World Champion Bret Hart (w/ Davey Boy Smith) to win the title at 34:44 in a match where the participants' seconds would have to throw in the towel to end the match Summer Slam 94 - Chicago, IL - United Center - August 29, 1994 (23,000; 19,500 paid; sell out) WWF World Champion Bret Hart defeated Owen Hart in a steel cage match at 32:08 when, as both men were hanging on the outside of the cage, the champion rammed Owen's head into the cage and Owen was hung upside down with his legs caught in-between the steel bars Armageddon 00 - Birmingham, AL - Boutwell Auditorium - December 10, 2000 (14,920) WWF World Champion Kurt Angle defeated Steve Austin, Rikishi, the Undertaker, the Rock, and Triple H in a Hell in a Cell bout at 32:10 Money in the Bank 2011 - Chicago, IL - AllState Arena - July 17, 2011 (14,815; sell out) CM Punk pinned WWE World Champion John Cena to win the title at 33:44 with the Go To Sleep Elimination Chamber 2012 - Milwaukee, WI - Bradley Center - February 19, 2012 (15,306; sell out) WWE World Champion CM Punk defeated Chris Jericho, R-Truth, Kofi Kingston, Dolph Ziggler (w/ Vickie Guerrero), and Mike Mizanin in an Elimination Chamber match at 32:38 Elimination Chamber 2011 - Oakland, CA - Oracle Arena - February 20, 2011 (11,500) World Heavyweight Champion Edge defeated Kane, Drew McIntyre, Wade Barrett, Rey Mysterio Jr., and the Big Show (sub. for Dolph Ziggler) in an Elimination Chamber match at 31:30 No Way Out 04 (Smackdown!) - San Francisco, CA - Cow Palace - February 15, 2004 (11,000; 9,000 paid; sell out) Eddie Guerrero pinned WWE World Champion Brock Lesnar to win the title at 30:05 with the Frog Splash after reversing an attempt at the F5 into a tornado DDT onto the title belt Backlash 04 (Raw) - Edmonton, Alberta - Rexall Place - April 18, 2004 World Heavyweight Champion Chris Benoit defeated Triple H and Shawn Michaels at 30:09 when Michaels submitted to the champion's Sharpshooter Elimination Chamber - St. Louis, MO - Scottrade Center - February 21, 2010 (17,628; 14,000 paid; sell out) John Cena defeated Randy Orton, WWE World Champion Sheamus, Kofi Kingston, Ted Dibiase Jr., and Triple H in an Elimination Chamber match at 30:23 to win the title WWF @ San Francisco - Cow Palace - December 11, 1992 (4,000; 3,000 paid) WWF World Champion Bret Hart pinned Ric Flair with a roll up at 30:55 I'm sure I'm missing many.

Wrestling is... inexplicable sexy lucha mask wackiness. http://rderudooficial.blogspot.com/2013/08/lucha-y-futbol-en-expomascaras-39.html

Over on PWO the price quoted was $30.

Gringo Harrington's Roster Count: Most appearances: El Satanico: 20 matches, El Dandy: 19 matches, Atlantis: 18 matches, Pirata Morgan: 16 matches, MS-1: 12 matches, Lizmark: 10 matches, Hombre Bala: 10 matches, Sangre Chicana: 10 matches One Shot Stars: Andre the Giant, Angel Blanco, Angel Blanco Jr., Apolo Dantes, Arandu, As Charro, Bello Greco, Black Shadow Jr., Cacharro Mendoza, Centurion Negro, Chavo Guerrero, Climax, Coloso Colosetti, Don Corleone, Dos Caras, Dr. Wagner, El Solitario, El Supremo, Enrique Vera, Eskeletor, Fabuloso Blondy, Fishman, Franco Colombo, Halcon Ortiz, Hombre Sin Nombre, Impacto, Javier Rocca, Kato Kung Lee, Ken Timbs, Kevin Von Erich, Lobo Rubio, Loco Zavala, Magico, Maskare, Mil Mascaras, Negro Casas, Panico, Raul Reyes Jr., Rayo De Jalisco, Rick Patterson, Rudy Reyna, Satoru Sayama, Shiro Koshinaka, Siglo XX, Solar II, Steve Nelson, Stuka, Super Halcon, Super Muneco, Tatsumi Fujinami, Ulises, Valente Fernandez I am always clueless to name-changes in Lucha, so I'm sure at least one person is being counted twice under two different names. Educate me! I tried to harmonize the small things (Baby Face=babyface, Satanico=El Satanico, Hijo Del Santo=El Hijo Del Santo, Talisman=El Talisman, El Egipico=El Egipcio, America Rocc=Americo Rocca, Sergio El Hermosa=Sergio El Hermoso, Verdugo=El Verdugo,Mascara Ano Dos Mil=Mascara Ano 2000,Brazo De Oro=Brazo Del Oro, Brazo De Plata=Brazo Del Plata) FIXED: Tierra, Viento y Fuego!

Yeah. Here's a quote from a Multichannel News article by Steve Donohue on 8/13/2001, "WWF Pinned WCW Deal on the Cheap"Regarding the alleged $75M offer: So, essentially, they offered about $10M with the guarantee they get primetime programming TV slot and the other $60M was essentially a pipedream valuation that wasn't going to happen (or at least, I cannot conceive how it could have happened unless something like a new Fusient-led WCW had managed to buy UFC from Zuffa in 2002).

About eight years ago, someone was selling a bunch of VHS tapes in the WO daily update. I bought some random comp tapes with helpful names of "WCW Supermatches 15" for a few bucks. It ended uup being clipped matches from random WCW Saturday Night/Pro episodes Dec 97 to July 98. (Full catalogue: http://mookieghana.livejournal.com/313604.html ) The good stuff was Fit/Regal and CIMA/Ultimo, but the random was just WCWtastic with "Raven/Horace vs Saturn/Van Hammer" and "Public Enemy vs Jim Neidhart/British Bulldog" (75% dead). Random: I also remember at the end of Ted DiBiase Shoot Tape, he goes off on "trashy storyline-based wrestling" while acknowledging they came to speak to Ted the Wrestler, not Ted the Preacher. Of course, immediately after the interview is the sleaziest promo for "RF VIDEO WOMEN'S CATFIGHTS". Huzzah.

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Yeah! Remember that time Saturn dumped him on his head? (And now the topic is exhausted.)Wait, I have a piece of trivia to interject!I learned today that Mike Bell and Bill Wiles (Bilvis Welsey) had a dark match before an ECW PPV.

Other worthy opponents for Davey: Chris Chetti, Billy White Wolf, Tony Parisi and Ron Waterman.

The WWE said Show was lazy lazy when he he first came from WCW. I don't think so, He just wasnt expected to go much being a WCW main eventer straight out the gait. Most the top guys half assed their matches every week, so unless you had a ppv match you weren't expected to go all out. He did bust out a missle drop kick during a squash match during his WCW run thoughHe did a missile dropkick at Halloween Havoc '98 too.I remember a thread on WC years ago about Wight's mythical moonsault. Someone was swearing up and down that he did a moonsault on TV, which somehow nobody else remembers. If anyone cares, it's here: http://wrestlingclassics.com/.ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=18;t=034355#000004 A tip for you kids: If you ever want what you say to be taken seriously, do not try to prove your case by saying "I Think Kevin Nash was the one who said Show was able to hit one back in his WCW days." Um, yeah, if Nash said, it must be true. 1'm at least 99% that Show never used a moonsault on Nitro. I've heard the Power Plant rumors many times without any (non-Nash) corroboration. If he had been doing moonsaults at the Power Plant, surely by now a wrestler would have mentioned it or they would be footage or something.There was an article from May 2001 on Slam Wrestling where Big Show talked about the mythical moonsault: http://slam.canoe.ca/SlamWrestlingBiosW/wight_08may01-can.html

The match at Starrcade with Tully/Arn is a forgotten gem, mostly because the finish was necessary but still horrible. As far as widening the net to "Best match the Roadies were involved in", this discussion begins and ends with the first WarGames, with the Canadian Stampede 10-man passably in the conversation as well.I was just watching Crockett Cup 1987 (Baltimore 4/11/87) Midnight Express (Stan Lane/Bobby Eaton) vs. Road Warriorshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSkuTwcqWR8 (starts around 1 hour 20 minutes) (beginning of this is the end of the match)

I am Mookie, so I have some numbers.I looked at a sample of RAWs from 1999 that I could get match-times for everything (32 shows). Average show had 28 minutes 54 seconds of wrestling over 7.5 matches. (Three shows had less than 20 minutes and four shows had more than 35 minutes. Shows sampled had between 6 and 10 matches). For a two-hour RAW (I'll ignore the overrun), that's 24% of the time that was wrestling content. (Granted, with commercials I think a one-hour show is something like 39-42 minutes of content.) compare, I took a sample of 10-20 RAWs from 2000 to 2011 (210 RAWs total covering 1,504 matches) where I had match times for all the matches I'd listed for that RAW show. Annual Averages 1999: 32 shows (28:54 minutes of wrestling average) 2000: 21 shows (30:58 minutes of wrestling average) 2001: 11 shows (34:36 minutes of wrestling average) 2002: 13 shows (29:23 minutes of wrestling average) 2003: 12 shows (32:15 minutes of wrestling average) 2004: 17 shows (33:13 minutes of wrestling average) 2005: 27 shows (32:46 minutes of wrestling average) 2006: 18 shows (28:33 minutes of wrestling average) 2007: 14 shows (32:22 minutes of wrestling average) 2008: 23 shows (32:21 minutes of wrestling average) 2009: 19 shows (34:18 minutes of wrestling average) 2010: 18 shows (31:38 minutes of wrestling average) 2011: 17 shows (33:22 minutes of wrestling average) So, 1999 was nominally lower in terms of wrestling content than following years, but this could be due to some sample bias.

Scott & Rick Steiner vs Bret & Owen Hart - WrestleFest '94

I started watching it yesterday and really digging it. My wife was amused when I explained that Mike Rotunda was, in fact, Bray Wyatt's dad.

Important Article alert! my buddy @RhodesWrestling is tackling my difficult question of ranking B-level WWE Champions using the criteria of "How much would you pay to see them wrestle a Bear?" http://rayrhodeswrestling.wordpress.com/ Today's Episode: The Miz vs Fozzie

SHAMELESS PLUG - I did a two hour interview yesterday with @voiceswrestling talking about wrestling stats. You can find both the articles I discuss and a link to the podcast at http://indeedwrestling.blogspot.com/2013/08/mookieghana-on-voices-of-wrestling.html I had a lot of fun with the very fine hosts. We talk about PPV correlations to feedback/RAW ratings, WWE 2Q financial results, favorite WWF Jobbers, B-level stars with decent win records, WWE Network and other assorted chicanery.

Bryan was raised in Washington State. I'm not sure they have electricity. Your Axe wielding skills are important when you're fighting bears to stay alive.

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I wrote a little piece on PPV modeling with a few fun charts trying to answer the question, "Question: Is it possible to estimate the number of buys that Wrestlemania would have if it only cost $15?": http://indeedwrestling.blogspot.com/

Wow. He sold nothing Starr did. Good callout! Did Rude normally stick a piledriver in his matches randomly ? Those open hand slaps looked painful too.