epwar Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 And in the "I haven't heard that name in ages" category... Josh Gross @yay_yee · 27m27 minutes ago Carlos Newton is not a party to the lawsuit. Yet. But he was the impetus for it. I'll have a look at how that came to pass in my story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Cung Le I can understand. But the media built it up that more current roster UFC fighters would be a part of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 Jeremy Botter @jeremybotter now6 seconds ago I first heard about this lawsuit roughly 18 months ago. The plaintiffs have drastically changed since that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epwar Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Jeremy Botter @jeremybotter 6m6 minutes ago Plaintiffs and details for the class action lawsuit against the UFC will be revealed at a press conference tomorrow at 1 p.m. PT. Jeremy Botter @jeremybotter 6m6 minutes ago The press conference is at the Hyatt in downtown San Jose. SJ? I guess Meltzer has to go then. I figure Cung Le will probably be the only guy on the current UFC roster involved. Damn, I'm a badass. Here's the law firm's press release: http://www.cohenmilstein.com/news.php?NewsID=742 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 RT @mookiealexander: Based on what I'm reading early, the filing indirectly lists Bellator as a "fringe competitor" What in the fuck? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 Jeremy Botter @jeremybotter 17s17 seconds ago For the purposes of this, we are pretending that Bellator—who are prepared to pay Brock Lesnar millions of dollars—do not exist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 RT @mookiealexander: Based on what I'm reading early, the filing indirectly lists Bellator as a "fringe competitor" What in the fuck? Bellator MMA President Scott Coker: We're bringing 'the fringe fans back' Jeremy Botter @jeremybotter 17s17 seconds ago For the purposes of this, we are pretending that Bellator—who are prepared to pay Brock Lesnar millions of dollars—do not exist. Who is pretending exactly Jeremy Botter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epwar Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 In terms of actual gate revenue, Bellator is a fringe competitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Not the UFC's job to create competition or be nice to competition in the sport. FTC investigation said ZUFFA was not violating anti-trust by purchasing Strikeforce. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 In terms of actual gate revenue, Bellator is a fringe competitor. There is more than one revenue stream to determine competition. By that standard, there are a ton of competitors that rival Top Rank and Golden Boy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 MMAFighting.com @MMAFighting 1m1 minute ago Carlos Newton: "UFC is the fastest growing monopoly in the world." Well...alright 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epwar Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Here is the actual suit. For fun, search Dana White. And now you will understand why he's effectively had a muzzle put on himself. http://www.cohenmilstein.com/media/pnc/5/media.1675.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Chael Sonnen @ sonnench This an a shakedown. #optedOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 "I want to be able to fight for what I'm worth, not someone else's generosity." - Carlos Newton WAIT WHAT?! Dude you haven't been good since George Bush's first term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 Todd Martin @ToddMartinMMA 6m Just finished reading through the class action lawsuit against the UFC. Bottom line, as an attorney, I don't see a strong case laid out. Jonathan Snowden @mmaencyclopedia 4m @ToddMartinMMA Do you work antitrust litigation? Todd Martin @ToddMartinMMA 59s @mmaencyclopedia Not my primary focus but I've done antitrust work. Jonathan Snowden @mmaencyclopedia now4 seconds ago @ToddMartinMMA Not dealt with this area of law. Few have. Interesting. UFC's market share makes any anti-competitive action suspect right? Todd Martin @ToddMartinMMA 3s3 seconds ago @mmaencyclopedia Suspect? I would say the opposite. UFC's market share gives anti-competitive action more credibility. Jonathan Snowden @mmaencyclopedia now19 seconds ago @ToddMartinMMA That seems to be the opposite of my reading of the case law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 Jeremy Botter @jeremybotter 2m2 minutes ago “Cung Le is considered by many to be the modern day Bruce Lee.” WHO CONSIDERS THIS? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 Cat got everyone's tongue, I guess. Carlos Newton's name must have blew everyone's collective mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 The UFC is aware of the action filed today but has not been served, nor has it had the opportunity to review the document. The UFC will vigorously defend itself and its business practices. http://www.ufc.com/news/ufc-reponse?utm_campaign=UFC&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=1418770179 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVileOne Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Man reading tweets is confusing sometimes. While I have my views, lawyers might provide some compelling evidence to the contrary. We shall see. I like Cung Le a lot. In my interviews and dealings with him he's been a class act and super nice down to earth approachable guy. But I still think he was juicing. However I believe a lot of guys are juicing and probably getting away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 For a lawsuit that supposedly has been in the works for two years, it is a mess in which ever way you look at it from the initial presser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilwaldo Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Let me get this straight, Carlos Newton wants the ability to fight for what he is worth and not someone else's generosity. He is 38, 3-7 in his last 10 fights, has not fought in more than 4 years, and is currently listed on his wiki page as 'retired.' Am I missing something here other than a potential money grab? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Jeremy Botter @jeremybotter 2m2 minutes ago “Cung Le is considered by many to be the modern day Bruce Lee.” WHO CONSIDERS THIS? I've never even considered, considering this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 Let me get this straight, Carlos Newton wants the ability to fight for what he is worth and not someone else's generosity. He is 38, 3-7 in his last 10 fights, has not fought in more than 4 years, and is currently listed on his wiki page as 'retired.' Am I missing something here other than a potential money grab? It has to be that. Assuming Snowden is correct and a bunch of potential major players pulled out, what makes anyone believe 700-800 fighters would join up? 70 is kinda a stretch when you realize the reps for the fighters already don't particularly seem too interested in bringing up Bellator and/or Viacom. If you have fighters that work for Bellator now, it rules out that a. Bellator is some fringe competition because you need to meet criteria to enter the suit and b. that a company cannot amass a decent roster of talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epwar Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Josh Gross has a nice piece up on how this suit came into being:http://www.grosspointblank.net/features/fighters-file-class-action-lawsuit-against-ufc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsalvajeloco Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share Posted December 16, 2014 Already hit the Ctrl + F for "and then Carlos Newton showed up". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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