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Interesting. So for the most part, the outside folks you've worked with try to get themselves over and not the match? That DOES happen alot, but it really depends on where you're working. I've never really dealt with someone's ego getting in the way, but I've dealt with tons of inexperience, be it managers or refs. That will frustrate you just as bad, because they miss basic stuff that you would think they learned in training. Of course we've all dealt with bonehead refs with tons of experience too. Thanks for the insight! I love hearing about what actually goes into putting a match together so stuff like this is great reading for me.

I remember in his book, Jericho talked about a ref who insisted on his own theme music and then inexplicably did a drop down that he (Jericho) had to jump over during a criss-cross spot.

Interesting. So for the most part, the outside folks you've worked with try to get themselves over and not the match?

Ha, that was awesome. I met London a few years ago and that guy is a riot. I had some drinks with him and he's super cool.

This question is for Marty, Nikita and any other workers on the board. I posed this in the "What Are You Watching" thread but never heard back. I was watching the Flair dvd a couple of weeks ago and was watching the Flair/Race match. Kiniski was doing his damndest to ruin an awesome match. I get what they were going for in that he was an old school guy and wanted them to grapple or whatever instead of bashing each other into the cage (at least that's how Gordon Solie sold it, he could've just been covering up for Kiniski) but it was so intrusive. I feel like Flair and Race must've wanted to legit go off on him at some point because he was really detracting from the match. Have any of you guys ever experienced anything like that? Where a ref or maybe a manager/valet kept getting in the way of what you were trying to do?

I'd imagine you'd get a pass for getting anesthesia and a pain killer or two to allow a doctor to slice into your kneecap.

Who are these people who say that Con-Air, Great White Hype and Starship Troopers are bad movies?

One of my friends who was a grade younger than me snuck a bullhorn into our senior graduation and imitated the Souled Out announcer when a couple of guys we hated went up to get their diploma. The principle would call their name and my friend would yell, "American Male...LOSER" into the bullhorn. He got about three of those out before people started looking for him and he took off without getting caught.

Whether he cracked or not, Benoit was on his last legs. I remember watching his last match and thinking he looked like he was done. I didn't think he was going to kill his family, but he did not look like he had another two years left as an active wrestler. I thought the feud with MVP was going to basically be his swan song as a big-time guy before he transitioned to ECW and then to a trainer role. He'd put over a guy he respected, go to ECW and be their "name" guy that could be counted on for good matches and eventually put over new guys (basically what Christian did) and then fade away.

Thank you for pointing that out. I knew I remembered that guy from somewhere but couldn't put my finger on it. He was Dave Brass in Oz. I remember he stole Rebadow's winning lotto ticket too.

Also, here's a part of his match with Alex Wright. He was going by JPL and I think this was the phase when he was pulling out diamond cutters and spinning heel kicks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL_PlttxUY8

I know he used a primitive version of the diamond cutter a couple of times. He had a pretty good spinning heel kick if you can believe that. He finished with an Indian Deathlock. One of his signature moves was a tilt-a-while backbreaker. Here are a couple of matches that will give you an idea of what he did:

FUcke Yeae!!!!! We're gonna have a T.V. Party TONIGHT. ALRIGHT! ALso Craig Fergusen will be hosting some celebrity panel game show thing. I wonder if Stoney Jackson still has those 227 checks. I wonder if he even got a check for Black Jack Savage.

As long as they have a vignette that includes Drew Mac storming out of a dilapidated house by kicking out the boarded up window I'm in. I've actually been trying to find that clip on youtube but having no luck. Anyone else know what I'm talking about? The Freebirds vignette where they're doing an interview in some run-down part of town?

KC has Harley Race. This team beats all other teams because Harley would either headbutt everyone into oblivion or pay Paul Jones and his whole entourage of people, Dick Slater....Kabuki orJack Brisco who was world champion and took the belt from him, to eliminate the other teams.

Take Raven off of the Philly team. When he wasn't being billed from The Bowery or whatever, he was billed from Short Hills, NJ.

This. I grew up watching mid-80's JCP as a kid and I always bought Magnum as a top face. My great-aunt and grandmother were your typical "stunt granny" types who watched wrestling back then, hated all the heels with a passion, totally thought everything was real, etc and I don't think I've ever seen people mark harder than when we watched a VHS of Magnum beating Tully in the I Quit match. He wrestled a bunch of squash matches on regular tv but he always brought it whenever he was in longer matches with any of the Horsemen, Nikita, etc.

Well apparently he's got MS so I doubt he's going to be on camera regardless of his status with WWE.

We've got The Rock, and Razor Ramon. As you've seen with the Miami Heat, you only really need two stars, and a bunch of complimentary players to win it all. Detroit reminds me of the 2012-13 Lakers... A lot of talent, with a lot of ego. You also have Layla on the outside running interference. I know she's originally from England but she lives in Miami and was a Heat dancer for a while IIRC.

I would love to see a Steiners/Sheik/Sabu/Nash team.

Reppin my homestate of VA Tony Atlas, Maven, Shockmastertyphoonboat, Kid Kash, Kendrick (wiki says he was born in Fairfax, VA) alternates--Boris Zhukov and Alex Riley Seconded by Mickie James and Serena

Team Detroit Take your pick from the following: Steiners (billed from Detroit), The Sheik, Sabu, Nash, Rhyno, Alex Shelley, Chris Sabin, Bischoff as manager

'SUP Relax with Trudy.

I wish he'd come out in that now. I remember in Foley's book, he talked about he and Sullivan were supposed to wear blood-stained aprons for the Sullivan's Slaughterhouse gimmick but Turner Execs shot it down. So Sullivan asked if they could use dirt. They said no b/c it would resemble blood too closely. Then just general grime which was shot down as being close to resembling a blood like substance. They ended up coming to the ring in pristine white aprons who, in Foley's words, "looked like the world's most anal retentive butchers".

Vader FUUUUUCKED him up!!! 1. That jobber had terrible gear. 2. He almost broke his arm on that powerbomb. Why would he throw his arm out on the way down like that? He's lucky he didn't snap his arm in half.