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Tosh.0 web redemption with the guy who got choked out by a girl, Tosh has a microphone tattoo parodying Brock's billy club tat. Fantastic.

Can't believe I forgot this: kaiju toys. Lots and lots of kaiju toys. What was the American toy company in the mid-1990s that made the Godzilla figures (they had a really bizarre Biollante)? Yeah. I had more than I'll ever feel comfortable admitting to a significant other regarding the amount.

I think I might have actually read that before Kansas. Such a great writer, Kansas is a book that at the end, you're only possible reaction is "So THAT'S how they did it!"

Thomas Frank is a personal hero of mine. "One Market Under God," his piece before Kansas, is just as good, very underrated. To stay on topic, I used to collect baseball/hockey/football cards as a kid, like anyone in middle school during 1999 I had an extensive Pokemon card collection (I had 4 Charizards. 4!!!!), and then in college I started a nice lil digital music "collection" (aka using the university's wireless network to download tracks from other students iTunes all around campus).

Yeah, Nick started reading from the script.

No I'm the same way. I'd toss my collectors edition model of Evangelion Unit-01 still in its packaging before letting go of "What's the Matter with Kansas?"

In what reality should District 9, 2012 and ***KNOWING***. (Fucking KNOWING!) occupy any type of similar-themed list?

Books. Lots of books. Several hundred. All non-fiction, save the few I have from my theology classes.

Rhonda apparently cut 17 lbs in a DAY during TUF. I know most of it is water weight, but still, how the fuck does one accomplish that?

Championship aside, seems like Fight Night 33 had the stronger card. I'm surprised to see the lighter weights dominating a Fox event.

Trying to argue that Jonah Hill getting posessed by demon cock is an example of a film being "overly serious" is about as troll as it gets.

As soon as I saw Children of Men occupying the same list as the Matrix sequels I said "fuck this thread." Outloud. My neighbors heard me. I hope they were watching Four Brothers.

Should I spoiler tag

Maybe. I'd need an example. But we're not discussing plot holes. A plot hole is usually a gap or an inconsistency in the plot, right? So if Indy was in prison in one scene, and then free in the next, without an escape, that would be a plot hole. Or if he knew where to go without explanation, etc. That's not what the issue is here, though. What's at issue here is Indy's centrality to the story. And the entire film is about Indy's search for the Ark. Every scene relates to that--most scenes are about Indy himself, and if not they're about his antagonists (the Nazis) trying to get to the Ark. Discussing what the Nazis would have done without Indy is just as pointless as discussing what would have happened if Martians intervened half way through the film--it's a discussion about a film that doesn't exist, not the one that does. The narrative doesn't exist "to prevent the Nazis from obtaining the Ark and thus ruling the world," it exists to place Indiana Jones in a series of thrilling adventures. And WHY is Indy searching for the Ark? Because the Nazis are, and plan on using it to rule the world. It's not as if Indy was looking for the Ark at the start of the movie, and just so happened to discover Nazis engaging in the same endeavor midway through. It's not imagining a different movie, it's noticing the fact that with or without Indy, the Nazis still find the Ark, and still die at the end. It's not complicated. You're both doing mental gymnastics to cover up the gaping irrelevancy of Mr. Jones. The Ark has powers with or without Indy. And again, with or without Indy, the Nazis find the Ark, and still die. That's all there is to it. Now, if someone wants to argue that Indys quest was to ensure the Ark ends up in the hands of top men, that's a point I'm willing to debate.

There is no guarantee that the Nazi's get the medallion first, because that assumes that the US just does nothing but twiddle its thumbs while the Nazis try to get their hands on a doomsday weapon. Not likely. The medallion is a MacGuffin anyway, IMO. The Nazi's are already digging in Egypt. They don't need the medallion to find the Ark. They will eventually find the Ark if they excavate long enough because they are in the general vicinity of the actual location. There is one of your plot holes. As for Indy's involvement, he wasn't some random dude on a list of heroes that got picked for the job. The museum guy charges Indy to recover the medallion because he is the foremost expect on the subject matter and he has personal knowledge of the people involved. He knows Abner Ravenwood, Marion, and most importantly, he knows Belloq. Like it or not and plot holes or no, Indy is central to the action in Raiders. The story doesn't get told without him. Exactly! My point isn't that the story isn't about Indy's adventure, or that the story can be told without him. It's that the adventure exists to prevent the Nazis from obtaining the Ark and thus ruling the world, when the reality (Ha!) is that even if Indy is never tasked with the adventure (and thus a story to tell) at all, the end result is STILL the same: Nazis die!

Hence my compliance.

We don't know whether or not it would've happend with or without his involvement because there'd be no story to tell without him, right? Besides, the story really isn't about Indy stopping anyone anyway. All of the bad guys in the Indy films get what's coming to them because they fuck around with things best left undisturbed. Forces they think they control, but really they can't. That's the real moral of the story and why I don't mind the DEM so much anymore. Indy survives those moments because he a healthy respect things he doesn't quite understand. He knows when to be analytical, he knows when to have faith, and he knows when to leave shit alone. The characters in the clip explain what would've happened without Indy: The Nazis would've had the medallion that he was in possession with, eventually finding the ark anyway, thus opening it and dying just as they did. You may be right that the MORAL of the story is to maintain a healthy respect for the unknown, but the plot, the actual task that Indy is charged with, is to recover the ark. Without the museum guy asking Indy to retrieve it, we have no story. Indy's tasked with recovering the Ark from the Nazis because it's believed that having them in possession of the Ark will give them the tactical advantage in the war. The actual result is that if Indy is never sent to retrieve it, the outcome is not just the same (Nazis die as they did), but the main concern of the film (Nazis having a WMD) is completely invalidated. I don't know how much more irrelevant it gets than that. The story may be about his adventure, but his adventure is ultimately inconsequential to the climax. I love Raiders, but from an analytical standpoint, that's a terrible narrative. What JT said. You're making the mistake of acting as though events exist (or could exist) distinct from how they are actually presented in the film's narrative. That isn't the case. If anything, the way you're looking at it should lead you to conclude that the climax is unrelated to the story (which would still be incorrect, just less incorrect). So you're shunning the entire concept of plot holes?

Indy's tasked with recovering the Ark from the Nazis because it's believed that having them in possession of the Ark will give them the tactical advantage in the war. The actual result is that if Indy is never sent to retrieve it, the outcome is not just the same (Nazis die as they did), but the main concern of the film (Nazis having a WMD) is completely invalidated. I don't know how much more irrelevant it gets than that. The story may be about his adventure, but his adventure is ultimately inconsequential to the climax. I love Raiders, but from an analytical standpoint, that's a terrible narrative. But the story isn't about Indy getting the girl, it's about Indy stopping Nazis. Which would've occurred with or without his involvement. Regarding DEM, I'm sure that's how it's supposed to be, but doesn't make it good story telling. And again, I fucking love this film.

Only because this isn't a GoT thread. But I think we need to establish some rules on spoilering, lest members are crushed by my reveal of Raiders.

"Do the Nazi's win or does the Ark just nuke Germany if it is opened again?" Pretty much. So basically Indy could've ended the war years earlier by just leaving it in Nazi possession, thus saving countless number of lives, but chose to instead bring the WMD back to the U.S. What a prick.

It aired six months ago, not six hours. Also, I think the title of "Red Wedding" is indicative of what's to come, unless you're anticipating a menstrual cycle gone horribly wrong.

One can only hope it's Raymond Burr.

I'm clueless as to why the Red Wedding is so talked about. I've never read any of the books, and before that episode I had seen maybe 1 episode from the previous season. But watching that show live (my brother made me), The last 3 episodes of Breaking Bad were 10x more over the top.

Just watched the Deathstroke v. Hawkman clip from Smallville. Had only seen some of the earlier seasons episodes, but goddamn, after watching this piece of shit, I can't believe the show lasted 10 seasons. And WTF is Lois Lane doing in here? Shouldn't that have been Lana? Or did the writers just try to incorporate EVERY single Superman mythos into his teen years?

My only issue with the trailer is if Godzilla is hundreds of feet tall and spewing radioactive phlegm, what's the point of parachuting a couple of Marines in to combat him? Where's the oxygen destroyer? Where's the X-3? And most important of all, where's Raymond Burr to give us redundant expositions?