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  1. Definitely forgot the Brock match. My bad there, that was a classic. I'll rewatch the rest - was during a time when Smackdown wasn't on TV here.
  2. I no longer drive limousines. I just want to move on.
  3. As if he wouldn't be in an ICOPRO singlet two sizes too small, oiled up and eyeballing anyone in sight.
  4. On the other hand, 2002 where he got RVD's best matches ever out of him, some awesome stuff with the Rock, solidified Edge as a main event/upper midcard guy better than Angle did, and some awesomely great tag matches with Benoit against pretty much anyone was mindblowingly good. And to think he could have had a PPV match with Austin in there too.
  5. Not trying to be a dick - but what am I missing? From memory - won the US title tournament, feuded with Big Show over shit/burritos, lost decisively, feuded with his brother in a fairly underwhelming program, had the great run with Angle, then the JBL stuff that wasn't really all that well received at the time, aside from that time Eddy nearly bled to death in the ring? After he dropped the title, sort of floundered around for months in nothing tag teams, rehashes of the Angle program, title multi-man matches until the Rey heel turn?
  6. I think you're right re: Zybysko and would move him up a lot more. Probably above George Steele maybe? Eddy's WWF run I think is quite overrated in the scheme of things, everyone I have above him had a longer run there than he did. A relatively nothing 2000/2003 where he had great character work, An awesomely underrated in-ring 2002, a few month run on top that didn't do much for ratings or gates that caused him to break under the pressure, in limbo for a year and then had that awesome program with Rey. Benoit objectively had a better run there than Eddy for mine, but if you're including....the unfortunateness and the subsequent impact on the timeline/company, I'd move him from above Flair/below Angle to where I had him. Bobo for being such a top/upper midcard guy for so long, at a time where it was nigh on impossible for non-whites to do so, and breaking that barrier for so many guys holds credible. I think its relatively high, but most of the guys immediately below him didn't really do a lot more within the WWWF/WWF/WWE either. Just that his run has had more flow on effect.
  7. I'll have a go at this. Based on (but not exclusively), length of run - importance to the "timeline" (Buddy Rogers to me, gets bumped up heaps, as without him as a credible top guy in the early days branching away from the NWA, there's no WWE), how much they achieved in WWE against being a top guy elsewhere beforehand (Flair, Lawler, Rhodes bumped down due to this. And defining WWE as it were at the time of their run, not what has been added to it in hindsight - i.e a different list for greatest wrestlers of all time), how they parlayed their run in WWE into bigger/better things (Rock gets bumped up, Lesnar to some degree, maybe Cena too.) 1) The Rock 2) Hulk Hogan 3) Bruno Sammartino 4) John Cena 5) The Undertaker 6) Andre the Giant 7) Buddy Rogers 8) Steve Austin ----------(this is where it got difficult)------------- 9) Bob Backlund 10) Shawn Michaels 11) Bret Hart 12) Roddy Piper 13) Randy Savage 14) Triple H 15) Sgt Slaughter 16) Superstar Billy Graham 17) Chief Jay Strongbow 18) Pedro Morales 19) Bobo Brazil 20) Chris Jericho 21) Brock Lesnar 22) Jimmy Snuka 23) Mick Foley 24) George the Animal Steele 25) Randy Orton 26) Edge 27) Big Show 28) Kane 29) Kurt Angle 30) Ric Flair 31) The Ultimate Warrior 32) Killer Kowalski 33) Jeff Hardy 34) Mr Perfect 35) Eddy Guerrero 36) CM Punk 37) Ted Dibiase 38) Jake Roberts 39) Booker T 40) Rey Mysterio 41) Pat Patterson 42) Greg Valentine 43) The Iron Shiek 44) Tito Santana 45) Don Muraco 46) Ricky Steamboat 47) Batista 48) Razor Ramon 49) Trish Stratus 50) Rick Rude 51) Yokozuna 52) Paul Orndorff 53) Honky Tonk Man 54) Larry Zybysko 55) Demolition 56) Jim Duggan 57) The Miz 58) Big Boss Man 59) Diesel 60) Jerry Lawler 61) Sid 62) Roman Reigns 63) JBL 64) Lita 65) Mark Henry 66) Dusty Rhodes 67) Sheamus 68) Daniel Bryan 69) Chris Benoit 70) Rob Van Dam 71) Christian 72) The Dudley Boys 73) Goldust 74) British Bulldog 75) Matt Hardy 76) Seth Rollins 77) Rikishi 78) Dean Ambrose 79) Goldberg 80) Kofi Kingston 81) William Regal 82) X-Pac 83) LOD 84) Wild Samoans 85) Mr Fuji/Professor Tanaka 86) Bray Wyatt 87) Jeff Jarrett 88) Owen Hart 89) Alberto Del Rio 90) Harley Race 91) Billy Gunn 92) Ron Simmons 93) Rick Martel 94) The Mountie/Jacques Rougeau 95) Dolph Ziggler 96) Ivan Putski 97) Mike Rotunda 98) Ken Patera 99) Jack Swagger 100) Koko B Ware
  8. Also extends to their ability to draw new fan bases into a product as opposed to guys who would watch anything and did during the Diesel/Mabel era. Using the Rock as an example, he was that good as a wrestler, he was able to parlay that momentum and support into being the biggest box office draw in Hollywood. That certainly has to be considered. Especially when you consider his early films were generally gone to almost exclusively by wrestling fans in the same way they'll watch WWE films now. Is Cena's make a wish work a recognition of his bigger appeal? Can see the argument if it was in context to a "decent human being" criteria against say, Shawn Michaels
  9. Becomes a difficult spiral though for me - you can't have Austin/McMahon without Bret, you don't have Bret without the Monday Night Wars, etc etc. I think that Rock became such a big star on the basis of his stuff with Vince and Foley - to a lesser extent, HHH also. I'm not sure there's much Austin did for him that elevated him as a guy, so much as they co-existed the same main event space, in comparison to those 3. I think arguably you could have had Tyson come in and do a deal with DX anyway, and it still gets similar attention.
  10. Don't know if I even have Austin in my top 5 based on longevity issues, and The Rock becoming the biggest star in the world from a similar platform. Sammartino established the federation's credibility, Hogan was able to parlay that into mainstream exposure, The Rock used it to launch his own career/shed a tag of just being a wrestling guy. There's my 3-2-1. Cena for being their second longest running draw behind Bruno with far more over-exposure at four. I'll throw Taker in at five.
  11. Agreed with the above sentiments. Goes an hour too long. You clip it and it's a perfectly acceptable Capt America First Avenger knockoff. Without it, it goes forever, pointlessly, awful villain. Like Supergirl this season, she ends up the love interest in her own movie. 4/10
  12. Serena's gonna play the Australian Open in 6 months time? She'll win it easily too.
  13. So - question - wife wants me to politely ask/inform anyone that would be wanting to see the baby that they would need to have measles vaccination up to date/done in last 3 years before being allowed to do so. I'm not going to argue with someone six months pregnant. On the other hand, is this normal? It doesn't seem like it, and seems the polar opposite/just as bad as the anti-vaxxers. And it'll just annoy me when I ask family who will blatantly lie to me that they've had it done.
  14. I'll save some stooge the time..... OMG GUYS THANK GOD ITS THE END OF THE MONTH LOL, Thank god this thread is getting locked when it does because we're talking PG rated stuff now, and I totally don't have hentai open on another browser tab or anything...
  15. Almost as good as that rare tape of Flair beating Al Perez with a shooting star figure four in Mid-Atlantic I guess.
  16. If Roman Reigns should turn heel is an overstated talking point, is Bray Wyatt should turn face an understated one? I think he could be quite entertaining with a face turn, if for no other reason it avoids the standard trope of Wyatt one ups some guy at every point for what seems like eternity but always loses the big one. That brief Wyatt Family face run against the League of Nations had potential, crowds were getting behind it (or at least against the LON, which was rare). A Wyatt/Joe feud could possibly even help both guys out from here on in?
  17. I wish instead of the standard MITB trope of everyone being a threat and trading wins/falls for a month, they'd just let the concept play out organically. Anyone can be in the right place at the right time. Ziggler beating Styles clean makes me think he's no more of a threat to winning a ladder match than not. Come to think of it, having a guy in there who thinks they have no chance of winning, but are there purely to stop someone else from winning also works just fine.
  18. That was super carny. Massive letdown. Give it a month before one of them badmouths the other again from the safety of a podcast.
  19. Text messages that could ruin Kurt Angle's career? They hired a recovering drug addict who once went on live TV to compare interracial sex to bestiality to one of their most sought after management positions. I reckon he's fairly bulletproof.
  20. http://rajah.com/node/56458 I wish we'd have had JR on screen like Shawn in '97, just noticeably fucked up and in no condition to be there, but just shitting on everything just the same.
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