clintthecrippler

Loving the trip down memory lane to when I followed boxing during my teenage years. Being a kid during the heyday of Mike Tyson his dominance, that world, and reading about the history was as awe-inspiring to me back then as wrestling was. Speaking of Trevor Berbick, did we ever figure out if Nobuhiko Takada really shot on him in UWFI or if this was just a really well done work? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru8DzzSBq2s

Yeah, it was one of those sub outs where their live version of "Flash" was so awesome that I absolutely did not mind at all.

I caught Claudio Simonetti's Goblin doing a live score with a screening of Lamberto Bava's DEMONS (1985) and if you are remotely a fan of either that movie or Goblin's classic soundtracks, definitely try to get out to any of the remaining tour dates if they are near you. He has surrounded himself with incredible musicians in this current incarnation of the group, and on top of that, DEMONS is just a great old time to see with a live audience anyway. A couple of interesting live composition substitutions too for the actual heavy metal songs on the soundtrack, including subbing out Accept's "Fast as A Shark" for an incredibly killer live instrumental cover of Iron Maiden's "Flash of the Blade" (a fun easter egg for fans of Dario Argento's PHENOMENA) with keyboards taking the place of Bruce Dickinson's vocals.

Absolutely right there with you on "The Best", much like when the Death Valley Driver 80s Memphis set came out and I ended up being blown away at how fully formed "Macho Man" Randy Savage was by the time he even got to the WWF, I ended up blown away by the end of 1985 by how fully formed Jake Roberts already was. And yes, him and Barbarian should have been the tag champions and the turn angle seemed like it just disappointed the fans instead of getting heat for The Barbarian. Also, there are a few Fantastics vs Bill Dundee & Dutch Mantel Houston and house show matches on Youtube that are well worth seeking out from that run. This one from I think Oklahoma City was probably my favorite out of all of them. I really wish if Bill Watts was hellbent on getting the belts back on a "pretty boy" team, it would have been to the Fantastics instead of Cooley and Perez so this series of matches could have been for the belts because they really were championship-match quality. I agree on most of your "Worst" and "WTF Booking", especially the pushes of The Nightmare and The Snowman. I am a sucker for the Lord Humongous gimmick though and thought the debut win over Dick Murdoch was awesome "establish a monster" booking, even if I was frustrated that for how normally buttoned up Watts was when it came to logic in pro wrestling, they never really did explain how he was able to get away with wearing the mask. I'm definitely more a Hacksaw Duggan fan than you, but agree that both the feud with Akbar's Army and the North American Championship would have been done a lot of favors if those were just tied together in a nice shiny bow. You can even add intrigue to the idea that Duggan may need to vacate the championship due to the blinding angle (which I myself loved) and also give extra motivation for Bill Watts to be angry about the situation given his own historical ties with that championship. That short-lived Brad Armstrong/Brickhouse Brown tag team actually was pretty damn fun. I do think there was more they could have done with Brickhouse, I think he could have been a good and credible transitional TV champion at some point. Holy crap I never put together until now that was a match they could have done and goddamn that would have been incredible. @SirSmUgly If you have not fully completed 1985 yet, Dick Slater and Buzz Sawyer are on their way in to wreak havoc all over the promotion through the end of the year, and Butch Reed returns for a little bit as well. All three of those wrestlers in the main event mix at the end of the year definitely freshened things up as far as my own enjoyment went. As for the transition into the UWF in 1986, the only 1986 episode on Peacock is a random episode from March from a time period when WWE Network's approach to territory footage was one-off episodes spotlighting names that would be bigger later on in WWE (that's how we got two random Smoky Mountain episodes from when Chris Jericho was there and a couple random GWF episodes from when Booker T was starting out). There are however two Youtube playlists that have a good chunk of Mid-South and UWF 1986 covered between the two of them, links to both below: I've been keeping up and I am into May 1986 now. First couple of months had some damn fun stuff with Jake Roberts and Dick Slater feuding over both the Television and North American Championships, and now I am into the period where the Fantastics are back and having wild matches damn near every week with the Sheepherders in what seems like it might be the last great tag team feud of the territory. Rick Steiner is in early days starting to develop, Eddie Gilbert is truly coming into his own as "Hot Stuff" (though saddled with managing the VERY MUCH still-green Blade Runners and two of the worst "foreign menaces" in wrestling history in Taras Bulba and Kortsia Korchenko), and Koko B Ware is providing some damn fun matches in the undercard, including one of the most infamous dropkicks off the top rope you'll ever see. I'm still having fun with it.

I caught a preview screening of this a few weeks ago. Definitely quite a few darkly comedic moments (and a really inventive "attempt to kill the monster" that I don't think I have seen done before) but I will advise that is it overall a much slower burn than Joe Lynch's most recent efforts like Mayhem and Everly. Well worth watching nonetheless, a good mix of Stuart Gordon worship (which again, given the screenwriting pedigree shouldn't be that surprising) and bits inspired by steamy 90s erotic thrillers that did justice to both of those inspirations.

In which 1986 UWF and Joel Watts make Tony Khan's Twitter trash talk last week look like absolute amateur hour by using the contrivance of explaining how the rules of body parts breaking the plane of the ropes negates a pin as an excuse to show Jake Roberts - who left for the World Wrestling Federation a mere seven weeks earlier - losing to Terry Taylor twice and then taking aim at the use of Damian in Jake's WWF post-matches. Timed to begin at the start of this segment: And as bonus WWF trash talk, this is followed by a 3-year old clip of Dr. Death Steve Williams beating "the current kingpin of the WWF" King Kong Bundy - two weeks after the latter main evented WrestleMania 2 against Hulk Hogan - bookmarked with the requisite "Bundy left the area for weaker competition" disclaimer from Jim Ross.

This scene in John Wick: Chapter 4 was legit one of my favorite action-movie set pieces in a long time.

I always love hearing your thoughts on your continued journey into Mid-South @SirSmUgly After I completed my 1985 Mid-South run, aside from one bad booking decision around the tag team championship in the second half of the year, that was one of my favorite years of tag team wrestling in a single promotion ever. And fuck, I never thought of the alternate timeline where he decides to strap a rocket to The Barbarian for the North American Title. It definitely would have been a much more interesting choice than The Nightmare, though the big x-factor with that would be if his broken leg still puts him out of action and the reign ends up being brief anyway. One other thing I hadn't commented on earlier. Watching John Nord go fairly quickly from clumsy stiff to becoming a fairly awesome presence in the ring in just six months (aside from giving Steve Constance brain damage with the infamous elbowdrop botch that ended that man's career) really makes me wonder how much of a big man super-worker he becomes if (a) he doesn't get injured and (b) he doesn't head to the AWA where he works fairly basic matches against Sgt Slaughter and falls under the influence of Bruiser Brody. I know he seemed to finally get some appreciation in later years from the DVDVR crowd and it's wild watching WWF Berzerker squashes in hindsight and realizing how much of a freak athlete he actually was. Watching him develop in 1985, he really does come off like he should have been one of the biggest stars of the later half of the decade instead of having start-stop middling runs in AWA 86/87 and 89/90 with stopovers in Dallas and Portland, and fucking off from wrestling completely in 1988.

I can absolutely buy that the scorecards of both Ken Osmond and Jason Hervey were disqualified because they each just spent 45 minutes crudely drawing doodles of themselves committing lewd acts with Patty Mullen (ala Dennis Reynolds in the Always Sunny episode where he is asked to draw his thoughts in a therapy session) and they were determined unsuitable to share with a 1988 basic cable television audience.

When I was doing my Prime Time rewatch on the Network a few years back, I was shocked that the Ted Arcidi vs Tony Atlas Boston Garden 1986 match was left unedited. They were brawling outside the ring, tipped over one of the thick black barricades with both the barricade's weight AND the weight of both Arcidi and Atlas falling right on the legs of a child sitting in the front row that couldn't get out of the way in time. The kid is absolutely screaming and crying like his legs had gotten completely crushed (probably because they had been crushed legit) and I would be shocked if that kid ever watched wrestling again after that. I can't imagine there wasn't some sort of lawsuit after that.

The most recent episode of 1986 UWF TV that I watched had a disclaimer during the show close that noted "all music heard during this program has been licensed through ASCAP" so someone got hip to how much popular music was being used by wrestling at some point.

Which falls apart after 2 shows when Quack starts to explain the number of comic book story-arc twists that he wants to introduce into the feud to Marti Funk who at that point decides to jack up the booking fees for Dory's talent.

I will forever love that the old Coliseum Video intro left in Dick Kroll getting beaned in the noggin with whatever wad of paper bounced right off his head, and also somehow had Lou Thesz vs Rikidozan footage that to this day we have no idea how that ended up in the WWF video vault to begin with.

In which during the first four minutes of this USWA Dallas segment, Boogie Woogie Man Jimmy Valiant kisses a ring girl, a referee, a woman in the front row that is being taunted by his opponent Billy Joe Travis for being homely, and a fourth person that I will absolutely NOT spoil for those clicking on this. https://youtu.be/6cXo8XvfzL0?si=ghFRODGk0IL2AO-F

The Okerlund shot was indeed another shot at the WWF, as it was them that actually put Okerlund in a tag team match, not the AWA. That said, on my rewatch, one thought I had was that with how much Cornette antagonized Boyd Pierce on TV every week, I honestly believe that a Boyd Pierce vs Jim Cornette "non-sanctioned" match could have drawn at the Superdome

Caught the Beyond Fest screening for this tonight in Los Angeles. While it definitely took some adjusting to both my eyes and my brain that I was seeing this character filtered through a professional decently-budgeted studio production with some fairly major names, there was still plenty of wild moments that left me speechless and still on the way out of the theater really processing what I just saw. That's a thumbs up, btw. Quite a few nods to those of us sick freaks that grew up on classic Troma Team as well.

I think by the time I finished my 1985 viewing Jake Roberts was probably my favorite performer of that entire year. Watching him gradually week after week becoming more of a fan favorite but still being slimy and devious at the same time was some absolutely beautiful pro wrestling. It's a shame the Peacock run of Mid-South ends when it does in December 1985...because January/February 1986 is loaded with Jake Roberts and Dick Slater getting into kerfuffles every week over both the Television Championship and the North American Championship. Thankfully if you have interest in continuing your journey past what's on Peacock, there's a nice Youtube playlist where video #10 begins the 1986 year for Mid-South as it transitions into the UWF with lots of Jake/Slater gold.

It might be a good idea for Sawyer Wreck to abstain from deathmatches for a few weeks.

Steiner was around during the very end of the Irish McNeil Boys Club days but as a mostly milquetoast JTTS though he was never fully squashed, commentary would put over his athletic potential, and you could tell that potential was there. But yeah, there is definitely a "flip switch" that turns on with how he handles himself in the ring once he starts hanging around Buzz, the "eating jobbers alive" aspect of what the Steiners would ultimately become definitely starts up around then.

I am now into April 1986 in my UWF viewing and not too much to note right now but I absolutely felt compelled to share The Sheepherders reaction to the reveal of Jack Victory's girlfriend, Lady Maxine, a woman with a body type that feels like she would definitely play much differently to fans in 2023 than she did in 1986, and while I am attempting to stay away from needing someone to tell me "calm down, cripplernetico", rightfully so. Also, this is the first time I am doing a week-to-week TV rewatch as an adult where The Sheepherders are there every week and it is absolutely blowing me away that even as bloodthirsty heel Sheepherders, Luke and Butch were still doing the "WOAH....YEAAAH!" mannerisms in their promos even then. And the week after this, the Fantastics would return to take the titles from The Sheepherders and kick off the territory's last truly great tag team rivalry. Okay, one more thing to note: Dick Slater's exit from the territory may be one of the greatest ass-handings of a wrestler on his way out ever and he didn't even take a single bump. Instead, the 1-2 punch of him tripping over his own hubris of winning both the North American and Television Championship, giving the Television Championship to Buzz Sawyer, then getting tricked into signing off on Buzz as a surrogate defender of the North American Championship who then loses to Hacksaw Duggan, and then Buzz refusing to give back the Television Championship when Slater asks him to with a resounding Bugs Bunny-meme level "NOOOOOOO!" while backed up by his new protege Rick Steiner is an absolutely wonderful send-off for a heel that had taken the territory by storm upon his arrival just six months prior. The entire saga plays out in this episode of UWF TV from the 8-minute mark through about the 30-minute mark from initial recaps, in-between promos with Slater, and ultimately Buzz giving the final brushoff to Slater, and is some damn fun wrestling television.

While I do feel bad for the folks getting released, I definitely got an "ALL THE STARS ARE HERE!" vibe as more and more NXT/Performance Center names got added to the list. https://youtu.be/R7246Q15uCA?si=PRcltVMQzthU_aFP

Yeah, I've been watching available Houston footage along the way too and it really is night-and-day The Fabulous Ones in Houston against The Guerreros vs. the main weekly Mid-South TV. Maybe it's the motivation of being in a proper program, the Houston pay days being good, or just having more trust/faith in their dance partners. Because HOLY SHIT, there is some really intense heat-heavy stuff going on in there where I genuinely feared for the safety of the Fabulous Ones walking out through that crowd after a couple of the angles they ran during that Houston feud.

I have completed my Mid-South Wrestling watch project on Peacock through available 1985 episodes, but thanks to The Wrestling Memory Grenade I am able to continue my journey into 1986 on Youtube, with some Power Pro episodes integrated to boot. Playlist link below: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjGIuyot16AYSIrrA1lAIw45BDrtDvJ9t I am now through the last episode of weekly TV officially titled "Mid-South Wrestling" the week of March 15th, 1986 with this period covering their initial forays into moving the weekly television to arenas: Things I'm Loving: The feud between Jake Roberts and Dick Slater - it's a shame that the Peacock run ends before this feud kicks in, because the six weeks that this is a program is a damn fun piece of professional wrestling that more people deserve to see, with momentum swings back-and-forth almost every week, both competitiors having fantastic in-ring chemistry with each other and a really wild development with Dark Journey punctuated by fantastic Jake promos where he reveals that yeah, he may be a fan favorite but he is still as sinister as ever. The feud begins in earnest with this episode featuring the TV Title Tournament Finals (yes, that championship is vacant AGAIN). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MkuiSCWv2o Ted Dibiase and Steve Williams, white meat babyface Tag Team Champions - Dibiase is super-over as a fan favorite in the wake of his return from the Dick Murdoch attack, and Dr. Death joins him by proxy (though the latter is also propelled by the real-life heroics of him and Rick Steiner saving the victims of a fiery auto accident from dying). Both come off much more confident in the way they carry themselves as faces, both on promos and in the "we're good guys, but also ass-kickers" vibe that is so important for staying mega-over in Mid-South. Koko B Ware - Koko is in as a hot new undercard babyface and getting over both with his pre-match dance routine to Morris Day & The Time's "The Bird", a charismatic plucky underdog spark, and THE MOST DEVASTATING TOP ROPE DROPKICK IN WRESTLING HISTORY - yes, this time period features the infamous finish to his squash against Gustavo Mendoza, and to their credit, this specific dropkick gets referenced on commentary for weeks afterward whenever Koko wrestles. It's very easy to see why in spite of his smaller size, Vince still saw him as someone worth poaching for the WWF later that year. https://twitter.com/gifapalooza/status/1302767970632990729 The Sheepherders (and the booking of so far) - Butch Miller and Luke Williams have arrived into the area, and the booking of them as a very dangerous force has been masterful, with all of their matches so far being 2-3 minute squashes, including an absolute destruction of the Bruise Brothers (Porkchop Cash and Mad Dog Boyd) sending them packing from the promotion. And their promos really put over how unhinged they are, though you can see small bits of what would ultimately be twisted into the Bushwhacker face persona in a development that NO ONE could have possibly predicted at this time. Buzz Sawyer - Buzz Sawyer is 5-foot-10 but easily comes off as the most dangerous and wreckless person in professional wrestling at this time despite his stature, and every time he is on TV there is an aura that some major shit is going down, and the booking lives up to that with him almost every time. The arena TV production - I love and miss the Irish McNeil Boys Club, but if they were going to make this move, so far so good on most points when it comes to their new TV production (save for one thing I'll note a little further down). I would say that as of the beginning of 1986 it is comparable with JCP's syndicated production, and they have just enough chaos and fast-moving show formatting to keep the arena crowds hot nearly every week. There is a fun "dueling promos" gimmick they try a few times where two rivals will be giving promos at the same time - with one wrestler in the ring with Jim Ross and the other wrestler on a side stage with Joel Watts, which comes off really well during the Roberts/Slater feud. A fun idea to let the wrestlers snipe at each other while giving off the pretense of keeping the wrestlers separated from each other and getting physical until the actual match. There is an odd entrance gimmick where they will cut to an entering wrestler as they walk into the ringside area and start their entrance music only then, though I assume that is to shave a couple of minutes of TV time that would be eaten up by showing a full entrance from the corner/side of the arena. I still miss the atmosphere of the Boys Club, but digging the few bits of experimentation they are doing to still make their show "not just another arena wrestling show" Things I'm...NOT Loving: Departures - admittedly, something out of their control, and while Dibiase/Williams are stepping up as top babyfaces, Butch Reed leaves the picture very early in 1986 after losing the North American Championship to Dick Slater, and feels very missed when it's apparent that he is not coming back for rematches. And boy, does Jake Roberts departing for the WWF at the end of this TV run feel like a MASSIVE exodus. His last six months as a face has been an incredible run, walking the tightrope in a balancing act where he is a fan favorite but he still does just enough both in-ring and on the mic to show that he still Jake "THE SNAKE" Roberts. There really is no one like him in Mid-South during this time, I already anticipate that he will be very missed too. But to Mid-South's credit (and Jake's), on the final episode of TV that he appears on, they have footage of him losing the TV title in Houston to Dick Slater, AND then he loses a "No. 1 Contender" face vs. face match to Terry Taylor on the way out the door. Part-timer Hacksaw Duggan - a common criticism of 1986 Mid-South/UWF is an increasing allowance by Watts to let his talent take Japan tours, which is good for the wrestlers, but maybe not the best development for maintaining a coherent main event scene. This is most evident by Hacksaw Duggan's absence early in the year for a Japan tour, as combined with the departure of Butch Reed, causes the face side of Mid-South to feel slightly off. Duggan spent all of 1985 evolving into THE top roughneck brawling face of the company and the most over person in the company, and as 1985 was closing, had a very heated angle with Buzz Sawyer that just kind of stalls out while Duggan disappears, though he does return to pick back up the Buzz Sawyer feud at the end of this TV run. Joel Watts on commentary - for how valuable he apparently was in the TV production behind-the-scenes, producing music videos and well-done recap packages, the move into the arena setting just enhances his deficiencies as a commentator tenfold. For a company making headway into becoming a nationally-televised company, he still continues to come off as too rough around the edges for such a spot. I saw someone on here recently refer to him as constantly feeling like he has to "think" about what he is going to say next, and those pauses are more awkward with a slicker arena-based television show. And there's a very cringe-y episode opening where the commentary team is Joel and Bill Watts, and Joel earnestly introduces Bill as "someone that I think knows more about wrestling than anyone else, MY DAD, Bill Watts" in a way that I could see turning off non-Southern audiences. A major step-down in foreign menace wrestlers - the foreign-menace has been a staple of Mid-South during the previous few years, but boy oh boy, Taras Bulba and Kortsia Korchenko are some of the stinkiest wrestlers to ever grace these rings. Bulba comes off as someone transported 10 years from the mid-70's kick-punch-choke scene of the WWWF, and Korchenko is somehow even worse than that. Maybe Watts felt that he HAD to have foreign menace spots filled (and they start leaning into that aspect heavily with the Sheepherders fairly quickly as well), but if this was the best available talent he could get for those roles, maybe he should have taken a break. And maybe he actually did see the writing on the wall with Korchenko eventually, since he brought in Ivan and Nikita Koloff specifically for the MEGA-heat Russian angle that would occur a few months down the road. Not learning lessons from Al Perez and Wendell Cooley with new babyface presentations - one of the worst booking decisions of the final part of 1985 was constantly referencing the now-departed Rock n Roll Express when newly-minted hot-shotted Tag Team Champions Al Perez and Wendell Cooley are on TV, and apparently no one learned their lesson when that reign fizzled out, as the mullet-and-mousatched Dave Peterson has now debuted as an undercard face and already comparisons on commentary are being made to Magnum TA, who is currently hot on JCP TV and not ostensbly coming back to Mid-South anytime soon. The Fabulous Ones - whoops, I mean, "The Fabs" - Steve Keirn and Stan Lane are brought in as heels, and for some reason, just seem out of place in Mid-South. That out of place feeling seems amplified by them working very methodically as heels, almost more as if they were on the 1986 WWF house show circuit instead of one of the hottest in-ring promotions in the country. There's a very "going through the motions" vibe to their work here. Even a "dream match" against a special-appearance making Rock n Roll Express comes off as a letdown, though admittedly the promotion adopting JCP's "Tony, we're out of time" gimmick for that match didn't help either, even if the match got a fair amount of TV time prior to that. And no, I don't know why they are only referred to as "The Fabs" here either, both on commentary and on TV graphics. Things I Am Neutral On: Terry Taylor - Terry is back after his aborted JCP run, and picks right back up where he left off as the "good-looking heartthrob" of the main event scene, with the push meter jacked up to 11. I still think he more than holds his own bell-to-bell, but because these are Youtube postings sourced from VHS TV recordings, we also now have localized house show promos, which are a fun addition for the most part...EXCEPT for Terry Taylor. I feel like I am turning on him every time he gets mic time during these localized promos, as he comes off as 70s Bob Backlund but with a tan, nice hair, and a suit, delivering "I really hope I win and appreciate clean competition" but with someone less earnestness and less intensity than even Bob at his most milquetoast, with no fire or urgency at all. I'm kind of mad that we're still a full year away from him turning heel. Thank God he still delivers for me once the bell rings at least. Eddie Gilbert - Gilbert definitely hones the "Hot Stuff" gimmick even more, being moved back into a wrestler-manager role but at one point he becomes the ONLY heel manager, which means there's a few episodes that border on the verge of becoming "The Eddie Gilbert Show", and a little bit of "Hot Stuff" goes a long way, a lot of "Hot Stuff" walks precipitously on the edge of burn out, the nadir of that so far being an episode where Eddie has a proper match against Koko B Ware, THEN manages Kortsia Korchenko in a match, and THEN manages... The debut of the Blade Runners - the one episode of 1986 Mid-South on Peacock spotlights this, the historic debuts of Sting and The Ultimate Warrior as yet another Road Warrior knockoff tag team. Commentary does a good job of putting over how massive The Blade Runners are (I think Sting might be one of the few people in history to get less jacked AFTER he entered the wrestling business), though again undercuts by blatantly referencing The Road Warriors on commentary. And boy are boy, both men are rough around the edges. The Ultimate Warrior lives up to his later reputation by coming off as dangerously unsafe, just dumping guys from slams with no regard for protection, and honestly, at this time, Sting isn't THAT much better. Warrior fucking off to World Class and Sting getting placed in a tag team with Eddie Gilbert may have honestly been the best thing that could have happened for his development as a performer. The Masked Superstar - The Masked Superstar is a welcome addition both in-ring and on the mic as an ally with Dick Murdoch to fight Dibiase and Williams for the Mid-South Tag Team Championship, but again, Mid-South being a part-time gig between Japan tours for him rears its ugly head, but this time Mid-South has a solution - just put someone else under the bodysuit and mask and call that person "The Masked Superstar", keep him off the mic, and then reveal that there are TWO "Masked Superstars" upon Bill Eadie's return from Japan, with the idea that when the match is Dibiase/Williams vs Murdoch/"Masked Superstar", you won't know which Superstar it is. A sound idea in theory, but unfortunately, the person they would select is Kelly Kiniski, who is competent but very visibily does not have the presence of Bill Eadie and feels off even if you don't explicitly know about the switch. This would incidentally, be Kiniski's final run as a wrestler, as he initially planned to take a break from wrestling, but has gone on record in recent years as saying that the first time he had a weekend at home with his family after beginning a Monday-Friday regular job, he knew he was never going back. And the last couple weeks of this run of Mid-South Wrestling, we have had very hard sells for the upcoming Crockett Cup tournament at the Superdome to the point where it really does feel like a Crockett/Watts joint promotion, and Bill on commentary alluding to a "name change" to reflect our growing stature as a "national" company as opposed to a "regional" company. That will come with the next week's of TV that I watch, and I think I'll check back in here in a few months with how that rebrand is going so far.

That "well he looks fat but he also looks strong" comment reminds me of when WWE were doing the gimmick of Heath Slater getting destroyed by random WWE legends for weeks on end, and my roommate at the time that was never a wrestling fan until he started living with me in 2005 was seeing a lot of those folks for the first time and his comment on Vader was shockingly accurate: "He looks like he smells bad" The only other comment I remember off the top of my head was when Sid was the legend of the week during that angle: "This looks like Heath Slater getting beat up by his stepdad" And he was also frightened by Bob Backlund still seemingly having crazy old man strength and seeming way too into cranking in the cross face chicken wing on Heath.