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Sam Darnold has no one left to throw to so I can't see that going well. Both Darnold & Fields' deals came in lower than I was expect. 33 a year for Darnold and only 20 a year for Fields. Rodgers & Wilson are the only big name free agent QBs left now. With Kirk Cousins being available via trade I'm sure. The Giants are going to do something really dumb at QB here soon. I can just feel it.

I was expecting Christian inserting himself to be Cope's jumping off point from this story and entering into a story that leads to E&C back together. Probably against FTR at All In. I would hope Jay White vs Cope os not the direction here. I think FTR vs E&C would have been the direction for last year's All In as well had it not been for the injury.

Gordi is a great poster and there's a lot of his opinions I agree with. And even when I don't agree I still like seeing him posting. He seems like good people. He didn't post that as an opinion. He straight up said "how the fuck can nobody at AEW see that?" That's not him expressing an opinion abiut what he enjoys. That's a discussion point where he's saying those in AEW should see it his way too.

Yes. More Leslie Jones. Less douce bag actresses that expose the business on the mic for no reason. I mean it's 2025 we all know. But no one stops a movie an hour in just to tell us it's scripted right before the ending. Why do these people have to make sure they prove they know it's scripted?

This is legitimately an insane post lol. Partyboy / Joey Ryan knock off Comorado was awful and didn't even belong on ROH. Abadon has value and a unique look, but Mercedes is world's better in the ring. It's not even comparing apples to oranges it's comparing apples to office chairs.

They better start moving some tickets then. The first Arthur Ashe has like 21k, so far only 11k sold for All In. It *should* be their largest US audience, but it's not a guarentee. This is the most actively delusional post I've ever seen on this board. The crowd let out an audible groan when Mox went over. 11k people all at once went ugh. That opening forearm exchange that was supposed to get a firey reaction from the crowd like the chop exchanges that go on forever and it got LITERAL silence. I dont want to hear the crowd was burnt out either. That crowd was there all night for everything. No matter where you put that on the card that's the reaction you're getting. This run is killing AEW's main event scene. And when Swerve loses at Dynasty it's gonna be even worse. That was AEW's worst ppv main event ever and by a wide margin. I actually called the exact finish in my group chat because I assumed stubborn ass TK wasn't moving off his plan. And I'm right. It's Darby and it's at All In. So we get a reverse Rollins so Mox can go over while Edge doesn't take the fall. The pivot should be Swerve as champ leading to Swerve vs Hangman at All In. But it won't be. Your biggest stars working the hottest angle at the biggest show. But no, that's not what's been written in TK's notebook since September. So that's not what we're getting.

Abyss as a DLC? That's pretty damn cool they're putting in a TNA legacy guy that never appeared in WWE.

Less titles, yes please. Bonus points if the Continental Title gimmick to the Continetal Classic is retired. Give the winner some sort of title shot, not a belt to defend. Keep the International Title as is as the secondary championship.

But do they have tons of face merch pre-planned? It was pointed out on twitter at Bad Blood when The Rock did the throat slash gesture he then put up the John Cena hand signal backwards and no one realized it at the time. This literally could have been penciled in as far back as September.

Quoting this to piggy back off of it because I agree, I think it's VERY unlikely.Cody gets booed. The Hogan / Rock thing was different in a lot of ways but most notably WM was in Toronto with what I would call a smart to the business and passionate audience that remember Hogan as a face fondly. WM this year is in Vegas. Which is going to be a heavy tourist crowd. The prices don't really lend themselves to the most die hard if wrestling fans. Cheapest price here is $400 and cheapest for WM18 was about $13.50 on the day of the show (I know because I almost spur of the moment decided to go). Hogan hadn't been a face in WWE in about a decade at that point. Cena has been a face this week. It's much different and I think the crowd is going to keep the roles that the creative have written here.

I don't know anything about him or his background. I'm judging on 1) the cringe shit he was doing like hanging on the ropes, wearing a replica belt for no reason, and doing the sage bit. That's taking focus off of the story being sold. Burning sage had jack shit to do with the angle in how it played out or was presented. So what was it's purpose? And 2) the fan cam angle of him straight up hammer fisting Cody's orbital bone. There's a close up video of it from the front row and if you watch that you'll also agree it was egregious and unnecessary.

I loved the angle. It was an all time great one. But I can tell you Travis Scott being apart of it is so god damn stupid. I don't care if more people know about him / listen to his music than all of wrestling fandom combined. He brought an all time great angle down a peg by being out there trying to steal the moment doing dumb sage bullshit and giving Cody the biggest fucking unnecessary potato of all time. Would Batista doing the thumbs down and picking HHH been better with Sisqo in the background for no reason? Or Fred Durst randomly being out there when Undertaker & HHH did their no words WM setup promo? Let's get Kid Rock randomly in the background of Shane buying WCW. Or someone from Poison there when Andre ripped the cross off of Hogan. Maybe Michael Jackson could be out there for the formation of the nWo. It's real dumb and actively brought down something super special (to me at least). But all that said, just a really fucking great angle to heat up Cody vs Cena and make it interesting. I'm very glad everyone went with it. I assume it leads to a Cena explanation saying he lost his last 10 matches and knew he needed to find something to help him win that record championship and cement his legendary status. So heel Cena beats Cody, holds the title until his last match, Cody beats & retires him, the torch is officially passed, Cena can shake his hand and turn baby again, and Cody is solidified as THE guy of this era.

Not if you factor in fantasy. In my PPR league he was an ace WR2 that helped me win the championship. I am so bummed Stafford re-signed with The Rams. I let myself believe it was a done deal he was going to be a Giant and I think he's one of the few QB needle movers that could have instantly dragged them a year or two ahead of the rebuild timeline. I do NOT want Aaron Rodgers on The Giants. Even if he reverted back to prime Rodgers he's still a weirdo tool that tears teams apart with his distractions and drama. Justin Fields is my hope now along with taking Sanders or Dart at no 3. I dont care if it's a reach. Just get it right.

Not taking sides in the discussion here, but isn't it entirely possible the knee tweak thing was legit? That it didn't play into the story of the match because it was a spur of the moment thing? I didn't see the match. But I've had things pop up during matches that hurt for a second (legitimately, not kayfabe) that went away after a minute or two and I paid it no more mind. There was a TNA match Raven always criticized where Chris Saban broke his ankle but tried to no sell it (poorly). I get how immersion breaking that is. But if Ospreay jammed his knee and it hurt him then it went away, isn't it acceptable to just move on without needing to change the greater match narrative?

But he waited until contract structures changed before pulling the plug so that doesn't really make sense. He didn't start disliking managers & tag teams until guaranteed contracts were a thing. You're paying those 5 guys anyways whether they work a tag, sit in catering, or work 2 singles. Sure in the 80s and 90s that was true of the pay structure. You'd be paying extra guys. But the 80s and 90s is when he was into managers & tag teams. Once the 2000s hit that thought process was irrelevant because everyone's getting their guarantee. So why the sudden change of mind?

In a lot of ways Mox vs Cope reminds me of Brock vs Reigns at WM31. Universally everyone thought it was a bad direction. Everyone knows the performers involved are capable pros but it's just not what the audience wants. So what outcome do you go with? WM31 had the foresight to do a surprise cash in near the final act and pivot to Rollins. It's not a surprise that Christian is gonna cash in. So what I would do is instead of him waiting to a conclusion or doing it in the final act like WM31, I would have him come out right at the start and make it a full on triple threat. Almost like when Taz left ECW. If the match goes on as is there's a big chance the crowd turns on it. The only way to make the not surprise cash in a surprise, is do it right away. Christian can still be a slimebag heel and just powder and pick his spots. But I think it being a triple threat is a good way to surprise the audience into not remembering they dislike this so much they were gonna hijack it. Now how to give it a satisfying conclusion that pivots us into something we wanna see? No clue.

Excuse me? He ran 2001 WCW for a solid 8 months thank you very much. They ran 0 shows and made 0 dollars, but that's still more money than WCW made in 2000. Boom roasted lol.

My read on the Rosa stuff (just on man's take) is that Rosa was expecting the heels to powder. I suspect the heels were waiting for something to cause them to powder. A wild swing / hitting Bayne once that she could no sell / Ford pulling Bayne away after the swing. Something like that. Just an awkward and weird miscommunication and definately something the agent should have stressed with them. If you bring a chair into the segment you have to be willing to swing it. Otherwise you look like an idiot. If Bayne & Ford were supposed to powder & didn't then getting hit (in a safe place) is their own fault,even f not initially scripted that way. And I think the general opinion of Rosa swung back when she got hurt then there was that reality show. Regardless if it was just talked up as drama for that show, it stuck and she has a bad reputation now. She's kind of always been a little sloppy & has bad instincts in matches that cause botches and awkwardness in my opinion. So I wouldn't be surprised if women get annoyed having to work with her.

Shane's people reached out to Fightful and didn't confirm or deny the equity request but apparently did confirm he made a pitch to run everything despite very little knowledge of AEW. Which just for the randomness and shear chaos of it I wish TK went for. Or at the very least give Shane Collision, keep Dynamite, give someone (Don Callis?) ROH.

It was in 2005 so the footage is shakey cam vhs, but it exists. Not sure if it's online anywhere but I know I have a copy of it. The belt kept falling off of the X so at a certain point they just threw their hands up and said it's pinfall only now. Ah good ole WV indys lol.

I worked one for a promotion in WV. They ran 3 in total I think. They didn't have the sturdy lighting trusses in the corners tho. They just used very tall aluminum 4x4s with a welded on turn buckle. There was a lot of give but all of us working them were smaller guys so it still worked. It did have the full and proper X with cables tho. Was even sturdy enough to stand in the center and moonsault off. Abyss was on the show and called me a dumb ass for wasting that spot on the pay I was getting that night. He wasn't wrong lol. It did get me booked on the biggest company in WV based solely on that spot tho, and I spun that into work a ton of top names. So overall worth it.

I know you said this in jest but it's kind of true. AEW lost face as a brand. The stink of handling the situation poorly stayed with people and I do think it was a lot of people's jump off point to get out. They just really haven't gained any momentum since. So it's not like 'Punk bad' and that's why AEW is doing bad. It's more like 'the Punk debacle was soooo bad' people gave up on AEW.

Hangman vs Omega, Hangman vs Ospreay, Hangman vs Jay White, Hangman vs MJF, Hangman vs Swerve, Hangman vs Lashley, Hangman vs Darby, Hangman vs Kyle Fletcher, Hangman vs Okada, Hangman vs Mortos, Hangman vs Ricochet. I could keep going. But literally every match there sounds dope. I'm on board with Hangman as the ace. The world title shouldn't just be 1 of 5 equal divisions. It's should be THE division. Quit segmenting the roster so much. Put the belt on someone the audience loves and let him kick some ass with the best of the best.

Posts like this add what exactly? What is idiotic about it? Just because it's something you don't care about? Then skip over the discussion. The conversation has moved past it.

Arpin's ropes were so god damn crooked and janky it was a 16 that felt like a 14. I'm a small guy and even I felt claustrophobic in his ring. By far the stiffest rings I ever worked in were the Global Force / TNA six sided ones. That hexagon frame locked those beams into place with no movement at all. I did a Danielson style flatback missle dropkick off the top in the GFW ring and wanted to roll out of the ring, walk out the building, and get the fuck out of the business it was so rough lol.