Phantom Lord

I don't see the fake Ziggler bit with Truth to be racist. Then again I wasn't really watching the match to begin with. The notion that Billy Gunn is there is perfect for Ziggler but people would think "wow Dolph is Billy's kid" and no one wants to make people think that Ziggler could be Billy's kid. He's got enough problems in the company. He doesn't need to be Billy Gunned like that.

This now has to happen. Cameron repeatedly trying to pin people on their stomachs. I'd also be okay with her painting stars on her stomach. Probably best to leave Kim Chee and the spear and shield out of it, though. They had no problem with Seth doing a monkey pose tonight though. That was seriously a legit WTF from me when I was watching. This whole show was a big WTF. Between them doing the whole halftime thing (I mean it's the Eagles and Colts) to pander a ratings pop at a certain time to closing the show with that painful rah rah America thing. It's a shame it can't happen, but as I've said before if this were any other production on earth Vince would have been removed as the show runner a long time ago. Tonight was a prime example of why his vision of television is so bad. Nothing remotely in the show that was worth us watching other than Paul's "turn to the dark side" promo. Of course Cena and his damn moral ethics wouldn't allow for that. We the lowly television viewers are begging for something new and anyone they have that could be new they ruin (see Cesaro) or they just don't know what to do with them. I understand the WWE has to be so much more than a rasslin company. But if they just go back to the status quo of lolcenawins this sunday, they might as well just rebrand themselves as WCW.

Man that Russ Davis (no kin of mine) was such a snarky asshole. I was laughing so hard when he was running down Haystacks for being a fat bastard. "A dozen eggs, a loaf of bread and a half pound of butter to feed him for breakfast". There needs to be more Bobby Davis in wrestling though. He was in the match for 30 seconds during the introductions and he looked like the kinda guy who could have started riots 30 years later in Atlanta.

Just thinking about it, Backlund having the feud Martel had with Hansen in 85 would have been all kinds of awesome.

I love Bob Backlund as much as the next guy, but man you're next to Harley Race. Try not to be so "gee golly".

I could live with a wrestling world where Stone Cold never happened. Stunning Steve Austin would have been a great mid 90's WCW World Champion. Plus if he stayed in WCW odds are he would never got dumped on his head by Owen and he would have wrestled well into the 2000's.

I watched the rest of RAW earlier. Sheamus really is becoming the pale Randy Orton. He has good enough matches, but no one cares when they are on. I really hope Cesaro wins the title and injects some life back into it and himself while he's at it. The Bellas segment was hilarious for all the wrong reasons. But what made me laugh the most is they hyped that Springer had his personal bodyguard with him. Where the hell was he was when Jerry was in the middle of all that? The best part had to be Stephanie being all "Oh my God nothing like this has ever happened before...I'm soooo sorry". The bunny thing was amusing. I want to believe the bunny fighting is a result of somehow Vince seeing a CP Munk video on youtube. Again if there were ever a reason for them to do a reality show on creative on the network this is it. Vince spending hours on plans for the bunny. It would be amazing to watch.

John Cena is so Hulk Hogan circa 1995 right now. I think Heyman really got him annoyed when he was like "those guys in the sixth row who say you suck". I made the joke last night on twitter that I thought poor Mr. Meeseeks had it bad. Existence is pain. Being John Cena must be a hell we can't possibly imagine. I have the second half of the show on the dvr since I was too tired to make it through the rest without falling asleep. But the announcers putting over what was going on in the ring? That's a novel enough concept that could just work.

I was browsing the squared circle reddit earlier and there was this whole thread on Jay Briscoe winning the world title and some uber ROH fan being all pissy really made me laugh. How do you even begin to respond to that.

Well it's run by Joey Styles who used to run ECWWrestling.com and well we remember all the photos they used to put up.

I never had Richard Bey in my city, but man those clips were far and away the best parts of Talk Soup! The REAL Talk Soup! Just yesterday I joked on Twitter that it was about time Richard Bey had a day because #BeyDay (for Beyonce's birthday) was trending. Richard Bey was great back in the day especially on a day when you didn't have school. I was too young/wasnt allowed to watch Night Games when it was on to appreciate it.

Vince didn't want to leave. Johnny Ace was the perfect stooge to take over for Vince, but despite Vince being too old to take beatings anymore he was like "DAMN IT, I GOT A FEW MORE IN ME". And now we have COO Triple H. Had they let Johnny Ace be his full corporate douchebag potential, he would be at least in Kane's role right now.

Joe's probably gonna spend 80% of his show on AM 970 here in NYC tomorrow morning on that bit.

This just sucks.

I'm sure they still attempted to reach out to him. God I really hope they did. Triple H explaining he's dead and Kevin Dunn being the ultimate suck up probably said "we can work around that".

I bet Vince has never seen Maury and if he has he was like "LOOK DAMN IT, SHES NOT PREGNANT SO WHO CARES". Vince being in a bubble 20 years behind the times explains Springer perfectly. Steve Harvey would have been way more interesting since he does segments on solving problems. Depending on who's side Harvey would have taken would have made it great. "Brie, why you have to treat your sister like that. SHE'S YOUR DAMN SISTER. Be A lady Brie". So I watched RAW tonight after I got home from class and a combo of it being really hot and muggy in my living room and this show being very skipable was not a good combination. Only thing I took away from this show is Rusev vs. Mark Henry will be some fun clubbering to behold. Harper and Rowan should have been the tag team champions so they could be feuding with Star & Goldust. Also I am buying a Bolieve button. That segment was tremendous.

Its not gonna happen, but if Sandow came out in a fat suit as Adrian Sandowis that might be the greatest thing ever.

Would the S&M version of Enter Sandman have worked? Possibly. But instead of smoking Marlbros, he comes out smoking one on an exagerated long rich person filter.

I skipped this show on account I was passed out from the heat getting to me. It's sitting on the dvr so judging from this thread I'll be ff'wding through most of it. So they're really do a maybe Cena can't overcome these odds angle. If this is the best they are doing come football season MNF is gonna kill them for the next four months.

Reguarding The Sandman in WCW, I liked how he was first introduced as Raven's snooty rich neighbor Jim. That whole emo rich kid Raven storyline they did with him and Kanyon for a few weeks (and in typical wcw fashion went nowhere) was so much fun. Waspy rich suburbanite Sandman might be one of the great wrestling missed oppurtunities ever. I mean if he went back to ECW and did a whole "I'm rich" gimmick and traded in Metallica for Symphony music and the beer for Wine there might have been legit riots at ECW shows from the hate he could have gotten.

I know WCW wasted a LOT of money bringing in Buffer for Nitro's. Why was he announcer what looks like a WCW Lowcard battleroyal.

I never liked the idea of this cloud technology. I'm happy being a dinosaur with manually transfering photos off my mini sd card to the computer. Apple is currently at $102.50 a share. I could have sworn it was at a couple hundred a share. Anyway, despite this I don't think it will take big of a hit tomorrow. It might fall, but with the new Iphone 6 coming out it will be right back up.

Exactly. It doesn't matter if he's broken down now with no neck and about 100 pounds overweight. We still remember the Taz who could suplex anyone on their head and choose to believe that he could still do that to anyone at any given time. It's a shame they didn't fully transform Joe into the new Taz when Taz debuted in TNA. Joe becoming the successor to the Taz Dojo and all things FTW would have been great. Around that same time there was a brief staredown between Taz and Homicide during a Cide/Joe match on Impact. For those 15 seconds I wanted to see Taz throw down with Homicide.

I think you all in the last half day have given more thought to all of this than WCW did. Hogan's only interested in putting over Hulk Hogan.Sure the logical thing would have been to build up to a legit Hogan/Goldberg rematch with no bullshit. But even if they did that (say for The Great American Bash in a cage or something), at the last minute Hogan would have used his power and made Goldberg look weak in the process. I mean hell, look at Hogan now. Despite being 61 and brittle as anything he's trying to con his way into a match with Brock Lesnar just so he can get the win back from the match against him on Smackdown. Goldberg was doomed the moment he beat Hogan in the Georgia Dome.