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Just did a quick google search for Bash 85 vhs and it looks like the matches are from different cards. Run time of 129 minutes. Here's what a product description from Amazon yields:

I don't recall it being that long. Maybe an hour or so? I didn't mean that it had all of those matches on the tape. It seems that the tape I had consisted of a few matches from both of those nights as I remember the Dusty/Flair switch on that tape as well as one of those taped fist matches, Valiant shaving Paul Jones' head and a couple of others. I was about 7 years old so I may be misremembering things.

I don't recall Flair ever using that. I thought it was Terry Funk who used that on occasion.

The list on wwe.com only has GAB events from 88 onwards, Starrcade's are there though. I'm starting to think I'll never see the 85 Bash uncut. Bummer but makes sense as GAB was kind of a summer long tour thing in 86 and 87. I think the tape my cousin had consisted of clipped versions of these two cards: July 5, 1986 in Charlotte, NC (Memorial Stadium) NWA World Junior Heavyweight Champion Denny Brown fought Steve Regal to a draw Robert Gibson defeated Black Bart Ole and Arn Anderson defeated Sam Houston and Nelson Royal Manny Fernandez defeated Baron Von Raschke (with Paul Jones) in a Bunkhouse match Wahoo McDaniel defeated Jimmy Garvin (with Precious) in an Indian Strap match Ron Garvin defeated Tully Blanchard (with James J. Dillon) in a Taped Fist match Road Warriors (with Paul Ellering) def. Ivan and Nikita Koloff in a Russian Chain match Jimmy Valiant defeated Shaska Whatley (with Paul Jones) in a Hair vs. Hair match Dusty Rhodes, Magnum T.A. and Baby Doll defeated The Midnight Express and Jim Cornette in a Steel cage match Ric Flair defeated Ricky Morton in a Steel Cage match to retain the NWA World Heavyweight Championship July 26, 1986 in Greensboro, NC (Greensboro Coliseum) Steve Regal defeated Sam Houston Black Bart and Konga the Barbarian defeated Denny Brown and Italian Stallion Manny Fernandez defeated Baron Von Raschke (with Paul Jones) in a Loaded Glove on a Pole match Wahoo McDaniel defeated Jimmy Garvin (with Precious) in an Indian Strap match Tully Blanchard (with James J. Dillon) defeated Ron Garvin in a Taped Fist match The Rock 'n' Roll Express fought Ole and Arn Anderson to a draw Paul Jones (with Shaska Whatley) defeated Jimmy Valiant in a Hair vs. Hair match Magnum T.A. defeated Nikita Koloff (with Ivan Koloff) in a match in the Best of 7 series for the NWA United States Championship to make the series 3-1. Road Warriors and Baby Doll (with Paul Ellering) defeated The Midnight Express and Jim Cornette in a Steel Cage match Dusty Rhodes defeated Ric Flair in a Steel Cage match to win the NWA World Heavyweight Championship

It wasn't that long ago where lower card WWE guys were not getting TV gigs, because a show would come to the company saying they wanted lowcard wrestler X and WWE would come back saying that they couldn't have him but they could have Randy Orton or whoever. I remember none of the specifics of this, mind you. I think this was something to do with Under Armour and Chavo Guererro or something. In his book, Bob Holly said that someone called up WWE asking if Test could appear in a movie but WWE said he was busy and they needed him for tv then proceeded to not use him at all throughout the whole time he would've been shooting.

I'll probably watch Starrcade 86 or Great American Bash 86. I remember those were the first two wrestling vhs tapes I saw. One of my cousins had them (and knowing what I know about him now and how expensive those things were back then, I strongly suspect they "fell off the back of a truck") and I used to watch them a ton as a kid. Haven't seen them since.

And Boyd and his guys again prove to be the smartest criminals on tv. Boyd immediately picks up on Hot Rod's signal that something's wrong. Jimmy doesn't go in all half-cocked after the Skinheads and gives Boyd useful intel. Carl handles the Crow situation pretty well and Boyd ends up using the Crows to his advantage.

I really want a Dewey Crow face turn.

When is the Mad Max game supposed to come out?

That model worked out pretty well for the Horsemen

Didn't Bischoff make out with some of them?

At least the Heat were heels for that match. I remember they were supposed to be faces the next year when they went against Bagwell/Norton.

They only lost two matches on the ppv and both had extenuating circumstances. Guerrero won a ladder match and The Steiners only won b/c Randy Anderson came out of the crowd to count 3. Personally I thought it was a pretty interesting concept. None of the matches were all that great but it was a lot different than the usual WCW ppv at the time.

No referee should go in before this man

It was only over once Hogan squashed him at Starrcade 97. If he'd have come out and been dominant with Hogan only getting offense b/c he cheated, it would've worked. Instead Hogan basically beat the hell out of him before pinning him fairly cleanly. Crow Sting against Taker could work b/c he could do stuff like attack Taker with the bat, confront him with the bat and leave it in the ring and turn his back, save Taker from an attack by The Shield or something b/c he wants Taker for himself, etc. Lots of different things that could be done.

This thread needs more Stan Hansen. "I'm not in a big ego rush. I'm not after the bright lights and the little women! I got a big fat wife and 9 kids and I gotta feed em!" http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2skcg_larry-zbyszko-s-in-this-corner-w-st_sport

Ah you're right. I remember he beat Benoit at a ppv in 2000 (Unforgiven?) but he never beat him on ppv after that as far as I remember. Benoit did win that feud though. Won the title from him and beat him in rematches. Lost it to Orton.

I don't think Triple H ever lost to Austin once they both got to main event status. Austin beat him at Buried Alive 96 but Trips was still in Blue Blood mode.

-He put Jericho over pretty big a few times, but all anyone remembers is the later burial at WM. The Dusty finish title match and subsequent rematch (That Trips had to cheat to win) made Jericho a star in WWE, rather than an IC title-level guy. One can argue Jericho never would have been at a WM title match level later on, if not for the pre-Invasion elevation of Jericho and Benoit during the 2-man power trip angle. I'm pretty sure Jericho has never cleanly pinned HHH. Not once. Even the "title win" was a fast ref count. He tapped out to Benoit several times. I would put him in that category. I think Benoit and Batista are the only guys to pretty much definitively win a feud vs. Triple H. I don't recall Trips ever pinning him after the Mania loss and I don't think he's ever beaten Batista either.

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Co-sign on this. I love all of his stuff. Rot & Ruin is pretty good as well even though it's more of a young adult zombie series. He has a book of short stories as well that has a Pine Deep short in it. The title of it escapes me now b/c I don't have my Kindle handy but you should be able to find it pretty easily on Amazon. If you remember it will you post it here? I'd love to read some more from Pine Deep. It was in a horror anthology called Dark Visions and the story is called Mister Pockets: A Pine Deep Story.

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Co-sign on this. I love all of his stuff. Rot & Ruin is pretty good as well even though it's more of a young adult zombie series. He has a book of short stories as well that has a Pine Deep short in it. The title of it escapes me now b/c I don't have my Kindle handy but you should be able to find it pretty easily on Amazon.

To be fair, Eddie is really the one who defeated Blaine. Why did the dead baby cross the road?

That's a great point. His schemes are generally well-thought out. Another thing that stands out is that his henchmen are generally competent too. That's a thing that kills me about some tv villains/criminals. They're smart but they surround themselves with bumbling idiots. Boyd's guys are backwoods hicks but they pretty much do what they're told and don't deviate from his gameplans. Plus, Boyd doesn't overly rely on his henchmen. For instance, another show would have had Boyd send one of his lackeys to kill Paxton and possibly botch it to keep the story going. Boyd just did it himself and then cleaned up the loose end with the Deputy by having the guy with black lung take him out.